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I get that, and I don't even disagree with it, but on this wiki we don't consider surviving Hakai an AP thing, just a resistance to EE.
It's a bit of both imo. There's obviously a power aspect, as shown by Frieza getting absolutely clapped against Toppo's Hakai by comparison to Sidra's, but there's a natural resistance there to not instantly get erased by the attack to begin with.
 
It's a bit of both imo. There's obviously a power aspect, as shown by Frieza getting absolutely clapped against Toppo's Hakai by comparison to Sidra's, but there's a natural resistance there to not instantly get erased by the attack to begin with.
...I know lol. I actually agree with you for the most part. It's just that the wiki treats it exclusively as EE resistance
 
AKM should preferibly not be pinged here, he already expressed his lost of interest in regards involucrating in anymore Dragon Ball threads.
Or else it could be kinda annoying for him.
Okay. No problem. He should remove his username from our knowledgeable members lists for Dragon Ball in that case though.
 
I'm ignoring the comments on the scaling. If this gets accepted, a new discussion will take place acocunting for the wider adjustments that potentially need to be made to the verse. From what I've gathered, the current vote tally for the OP is;

Agree: 17 (@Quantu, @God900, @Toby020, @Arnoldstone18, @Deceived3596, @Overlord_THE_END, @Da3ggman, @Gogeta, @Irineu, @Peak, @y3p_owo, @DarkDragonMedeus, @Milly_Rocking_Bandit, @Vietthai96, @Nierre, @Antvasima, @DemonGodMitchAubin)

Disagree
: 0

Neutral: 3 (@Reiner, @Vasco. @Tarang123)
 
Disagree. This goes against our current standards.

If toriyama's ability cannot affect a being on a lower level, that means that there is no qualitative superiority and therefore it's not "5D" erasure.
Arale/Dr. Slump is already accepted as 5-D on this wiki. You would have to downgrade that verse first if you want to disagree based on that reasoning.
 
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