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MrKingOfNegativity

Abstract embodiment of being undesirable
VS Battles
Retired
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I'm going to regret this, aren't I?

Vote Count

  • Bayonetta: 3 (WeeklyBattles, Gargoyle One, SiamesetheKitty)
  • Inconclusive: 1 (Dragonmasterxyz)
Rules

  • Random encounter.
  • Speed is equalized.
  • High 4-C versions. Bayonetta 2 VS Nightworld
  • Combatants start 35 yards away.
  • Winner by any means necessary.
Give proper reasoning.
 
Three things are a problem for opponents right off the bat.

  • His aura. It causes all light within his general vicinity to wane completely. Electrical lights die out, torches and candles go out, and natural light fades away. He can manipulate the darkness/light so that he can be seen in it if he wants, but passively, it surrounds victims in a darkness so complete it causes them to lose their sense of direction. And in most combat situations, he already has the aura up from the beginning.
  • His eyes. So much as looking at them for longer than a brief instant causes you to start losing your sanity due to the sheer madness and evil behind them. It's like Cthulhu's mindmash, only it's actually reliable instead of taking long as hell, you're gone in moments. His eyes also compel you to keep staring into them once you've started. This is passive.
  • Paralysis. He can paralyze his opponent's body with a thought. This isn't the same as the thing with his eyes. He looks at you and your body completely locks up to the point that the only thing you can do is breathe. He starts off with this quite a few times, and even did it at the same time as a TK blast once in order to knock a person down and prevent them from getting up. (He can activate TK with a thought too, btw.)
 
Hmmmm....

Those eyes could get him the win here, but on the other hand Bayo leads with time slow.

Hmmm....
 
Can she get around his aura? Anything in her repertoire that allows her to either see in the dark or locate enemies without seeing at all?

Because if not, even if she manages to get out of the range of his aura, all she's going to see is a mass of shadow heading towards her.
 
Yeah I see.

Not only that, if he leads with paralysis, he wins, as Bayonetta leads with time slow with a thought, but assuming Witch Time activates first, Ras's Paralysis still has a very good chance of getting her during the slow.

Voting Rasalom
 
Bayo's enhanced senses are good enough that she'd be able to see him in the dark pretty easily

Does he need to maintain eye contact for her to be paralyzed or is it permanent? Bayo can open a portal underneath her with a thought and use it to get to Purgatorio
 
I'm pretty sure her going to purgatorio requires her to make a circle and even then, if she looks she's inclined to look into his eyes more.
 
"Goodbye, whoever you are," he whispered, and pulled the trigger.
Or tried to. It wouldn't budge. Jammed!

And then Roma glanced at him and Jack felt himself lifted through the air and slammed back against a palm trunk. The pain of the impact on his spine blew all the air out of him and blurred his vision for a few heartbeats. His knees turned to jelly and he slid earthward to end up sitting in the mud, propped against the palm.

"Jack!" he heard his father cry from what seemed like the end of a long hallway. "Jack, are you all—?"

Jack's vision cleared in time to see his father tumble back into the brush and disappear from view.

He wanted to shout to him but his voice wouldn't work.

Fear spiked his chest. Was Dad hurt? Was he even alive?

Jack tried to get to his feet but couldn't move. For a panicky instant he thought he was paralyzed from a broken spine, then realized that something was holding him in place, something he couldn't see or feel but powerful enough to press on him so effectively that all he could do was breathe. He tried to shout to Roma but couldn't do even that. He was at Roma's mercy.

But Roma didn't seem interested in him, didn't even glance toward Jack as he casually stepped onto the bank to stand not two feet away, facing Semelee.


Semelee cringed back as he stared at her.

"So," Roma said. Jack heard him clearly. The rain and wind seemed to be easing up, although lightning still flashed all around them. "You're the one who's trying to usurp my name."''

~ Gateways​
The lamp above him winked out. Then the one to his right, thirty feet away, did the same. Then the one to his left.
What the hell?

Then the overheads on the FDR began dying, up and down the road.

Some sort of power failure.

So what?

As he continued to stare across the water he saw a round shadow slowly rise on the far side of the railing. At first he thought it was a balloon, but as it continued to rise it broadened into a pair of shoulders, then arms straight down its sides.

A man… a floating man.

The languorous way it rose, without moving its arms… had to be a balloon, an inflatable doll.

But when its feet reached the level of the top rung, it moved, stepping forward to stand on the railing. Then it crouched with its arms about its knees and perched there like some sort of gargoyle. Jack couldn't see the face, but he knew its eyes were fixed on him.

"What the—?"

"Hello, Heir," it said in a mocking tone. "How's life?"

Jack knew that voice.

Rasalom.

With a howl he went to leap off the seat and wrap his fingers around the throat that housed it. And if the two of them tumbled to the river below, so be it. He'd go to his grave strangling this son of a bitch.

But he never left the seat. He could move his arms, but not his feet or his legs. His body wouldn't budge. He clawed the air and howled again, sounding like a madman. At that moment he was.

Rasalom put his head back and sniffed the air.

"Mmm. The nectar of desolation, the liquor of devastation, the elixir of despair, the wine of disheartenment. This is a fine, fine vintage. If only I could bottle it."''

~ Harbingers​
First quote, he simultaneously sends Jack flying and paralyzes his entire body with just a glance, then turns his attention to someone else. Second quote, he stares at Jack, locks everything but his arms in place, then tilts his head back to literally enjoy the poor bastard's helplessness. (Which, logically, requires breaking eye-contact.)

So no, he doesn't need to keep staring at a person. If he paralyzes them, they're stuck in place for as long as he wants.
 
I don't see why falling through an interdimensional portal would un-paralyze a person, no. It's not like he's focusing on the victim to keep them in place or anything; he quite literally turned his attention to another person besides Jack in the first quote. (And it was most certainly all of his attention, because he was really, really pissed off at her.)

He could easily get away with TKing Bayonetta while she's paralyzed as well, for that reason.
 
Yes but unless he has feats of affecting someone with his powers while theyre in another universe you really cant just assume he can.

And even if Bayo did remain paralyzed she can just use her telekinesis to control her bullets and attack him with them
 
So if a person is frozen and they're teleported to a new universe, they just thaw out automatically? Because that's basically what you're saying is the case here.

Also, there's nothing stopping him from TKing her while she's paralyzed. He can activate his TK with a thought, so even if the portal opens up underneath her, he could easily just suspend her and prevent her from falling into it. Or just use the TK to ragdoll her to death.

His eyes are still a factor as well. What stops an unsuspecting Witch from looking at them once she can't even turn her head?
 
If its done by another person's power and they have no feats of maintaining said power from another universe, yes

TK isnt one of the things you listed as him starting with, but even if he does do that she can just use the Infernal Communicator to attack him automatically, and if he ragdolls her to death she'll be auto revived with the Red Hot Shot and can get to Purgatorio while he's off guard. Actually, how far into High 4-C is he AP-wise? Her TK may very well be able to overpower his.
 
Going to another universe doesn't remove a status effect, which is what paralysis is. That's like saying someone can remove a fatal poison just by hopping over to another universe. It doesn't work that way. It's not like mind control where he needs to maintain contact with her.

He doesn't need to "start off" with TK if he's already paralyzed her. If the portal opens up underneath her, all it takes is a single thought for him to catch her before she falls.

Ras has a sixth sense that allows him to know the locations, identities and emotions of everyone around him, and as shown in one of the quotes, he can even sense the specific nature of those emotions. She won't catch him off-guard. If anything, she'll be the one off-guard by the fact that he not only sensed her returning to life, but reacted immediately and incapacitated her again without a second thought. And then, once he's realized she can resurrect from death, he can hit her with sleep inducement for an incap. Or do his own equivalent to what she planned to and open/fling her into a bottomless hole that opens up into another reality dominated by the Otherness.

Just looked up the Infernal Communicator. It looks like she needs a hand motion in order to activate it, which is obviously null in this situation. But summoning demons to attack him is already bad money; A girl who could call Otherness creatures to attack her foes tried doing that to him, and he ripped control of them from her like it was nothing. Then, after letting her struggle to take back control over them, he turned them on her and had them eat her. And this was his weaker 9-B self, before his powers had made the jump to an interstellar scale.

He doesn't have a calc for his rating, but as far as the actual feat goes, he rearranged the constellations in the sky just by willing it. It's left vague just how much he moved each one, but Glaeken stated that the constellations had been rearranged.

And all of this is moot if she loses her sanity before it can happen. A possibility that still hasn't been addressed, and should be, since insanity inducement is one of his passive abilities.
 
So all the people he used the paralysis on were paralyzed permanently from that point onward?

He kinda does considering she starts off with time slow into Purgatorio, if he doesnt TK immediately he's not catching her with TK before she gets into Purgatorio as he'll be time slowed to a near stop instantly.

Time will be slowed instantly once she resurrects, 6th sense or not she's not going to give him the opportunity to paralyze her again, she'll be in Purgatorio while its still processing in his mind that Bayo is back up due to his mind being slowed by Witch Time. She then atomizes him, soul rips him, and BFRs him to Inferno while he's slowed down from the safety of Purgatorio. Hell, technically she can use Rodin's holy weapons to kill him too.

That would yield approximately 4.10826e+44 joules

Bayo should have a resistance comparable to is not superior to Jeanne, who spent almost 24 hours constantly doused in Alraune's poison which causes anyone it makes contact with to have severe hallucinations and be driven insane
 
Waitholdthefuckup.

Are you sure? Because looking at the AP chart, that's Solar System level. Like, way into Solar System level.
 
598 (Yes i actually look and had to count the main sequence stars in all 88 constellations) x 6.87e41 (GBE of the sun which we use as a baseline for stars) = 4.10826e+44 Joules

Its not Solar System level though, 4-B starts at 2.24e+45 Joules
 
Tfw I read the "Tons of TNT" section instead of the "Energy in Joules" one. RIP me.

I'm taking a pause here, I legit want a calc blog of this now.
 
@Weekly

Iirc in the tier 4 revisions it was decided that the Sun shouldn't be considered as the "average star" because its GBE is way higher than most stars.

The feat is still definitely High 4-C however
 
So still pretty comfortably into High 4-C. Man.

Wonder if I'm going to have to link this thread every time someone asks how strong he is.
 
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