Battle for 4th Strongest Non-Smurf 8-A (Johnny vs Flowey) (Grace)

[RandomGuy2345]

The Witch’s mind control is quicker that Johnny pulling out his button and pressing it

Wait...

Witch is only 8-B.

Johnny's 8-A, so you can't really replace Johnny with Witch.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

How does Witch utilize her Mind Control anyway?

 

[Pikaman]

Wait...

Witch is only 8-B.

Johnny's 8-A, so you can't really replace Johnny with Witch.

I keep on forgetting she’s 8-B and not 8-A since she downscales from Pest (8-A)

 

[RandomGuy2345]

So I think we can take Flowey off the Top 5 and put Johnny Test up there.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Can y'all cast votes for Johnny pls? I need my serotonin.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

@Adem_Warlock69 and @Pikaman

Do y'all have any responses to my arguments for Johnny?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

What just stops Flowey from simply absorbing Johnny’s soul to become Asriel?

Well Flowey's gonna need to beat him first

 

[Pikaman]

Also tip for @Adem_Warlock69, put “Battle for 4th Strongest Non-Smurf 8-A” as a pre-fix to the title if it fits

 

[azontr]

Johnny drives Flowey insane from endless whipcracks.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Why did I stop getting notis?

I'm also taking a look at some of the candidates for strongest 8-A, and I'm not too confident in me keeping 4th place for too long.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Battle for 5th Strongest Non-Smurf 8-A (Johnny vs Flowey)​

4th*

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

4th*

Isn't that the Hunter dude

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Isn't that the Hunter dude

I thought he was #1?

https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-search-for-the-strongest-8-a-non-smurfs.142935/

I was referring to this list here.

 

[Dragonite007]

Why did I stop getting notis?

I'm also taking a look at some of the candidates for strongest 8-A, and I'm not too confident in me keeping 4th place for too long.

5th just blitz Johnny with the 10x amp, don't it?

 

[Epiccheev]

FRA

 

[RandomGuy2345]

5th just blitz Johnny with the 10x amp, don't it?

Bionic Arm increase Johnny's reaction speed from Hypersonic to Massively Hypersonic, which is a 31x speed boost.

 

[Peppersalt43]

Bionic Arm increase Johnny's reaction speed from Hypersonic to Massively Hypersonic, which is a 31x speed boost.

But that bumps him up to Low 7-C, doesn't it?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

But that bumps him up to Low 7-C, doesn't it?

Shit.

Yeah it does.

5th just blitz Johnny with the 10x amp, don't it?

Does 5th place spam that 10x amp in character?

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Still waiting for some of y'all to vote.

 

[Dragonite007]

Does 5th place spam that 10x amp in character?

It's practically his first attack

Also, Ikki Kurogane blitz Johnny with his 200x amp

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

They can't beat Flowey tho

 

[RandomGuy2345]

It's practically his first attack

Would it one shot Johnny?

Also, Ikki Kurogane blitz Johnny with his 200x amp

Is that with one attack, too? Or is it something he has permanently once activated?

I also think we should discuss this in the Strongest Non-Smurf 8-A thread, so can we move over there?

 

[Epiccheev]

iirc Ikki's 200x amp is for like one second/one attack. But he has precog instincts that trigger when he's about to be haxed and will open with it if he needs to.

 

[Dragonite007]

What is both wincons?
Random say something about possesion and time stop, but Johnny Test was banned in my country so I don't know whay they can do.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Johnny wins if he uses one of his Possession, Sleep Manip, Time Stop gadgets
Flowey wins if he beats up Johnny and destroys/absorbs his soul

 

[RandomGuy2345]

iirc Ikki's 200x amp is for like one second/one attack. But he has precog instincts that trigger when he's about to be haxed and will open with it if he needs to.

Talk about it in the Strongest 8-A thread. We're unnecessarily clogging up the thread.

What is both wincons?
Random say something about possesion and time stop, but Johnny Test was banned in my country so I don't know whay they can do.

Flowey has "undodgeable" danmaku, as well as SAVE and LOAD, which means Johnny can't kill him.

However, Johnny's Possession, Time Stop, Sleep Manip, and (I think) a few others makes sure that he doesn't actually need to kill Flowey in order to win.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Flowey wins if he beats up Johnny and destroys/absorbs his soul

Flowey holds a decent AP advantage, but Johnny's dura hax help him with that.

Also, Johnny's Time Stop makes most of Flowey's attacks void.

 

[RandomGuy2345]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-search-for-the-strongest-8-a-non-smurfs.142935/

Here's the thread for the people who're interested.

 

[Pikaman]

Knowing that The Witch easily makes it into Top 5 strongest 8-As but has to deal with The Sorrow for 8-B

 

[RandomGuy2345]

Knowing that The Witch easily makes it into Top 5 strongest 8-As but has to deal with The Sorrow for 8-B

Try and make an argument for her being Top 5 strongest 8-Bs.

Also, cope.

 

[Pikaman]

Try and make an argument for her being Top 5 strongest 8-Bs.

Also, cope.

I’d have to re-read the Town of Salem lore novel to check if she can even interact with ghosts, and then create a CRT for Non-Physical interaction if she can, and then try and argue how she pulls off her mind hax before Sorrow kills her with death hax

 

[RandomGuy2345]

I’d have to re-read the Town of Salem lore novel to check if she can even interact with ghosts, and then create a CRT for Non-Physical interaction if she can, and then try and argue how she pulls off her mind hax before Sorrow kills her with death hax

RIP

 

[InfiniteDay]

Try and make an argument for her being Top 5 strongest 8-Bs.

Also, cope.

I may just crush their dreams by trying to get Lobotomy char's into the non-smurf thread

But yeah looks like the goofy goober wins here

 

[Bruhtelho]

Johnny Test FRA

 

[RandomGuy2345]

@Adem_Warlock69 can you cast a vote for Johnny, pls?

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

@Adem_Warlock69 can you cast a vote for Johnny, pls?

sure Ig

 

[Deleted member 11410]

Johnny FRA.

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

one more vote till Grace

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Johnny bear fra

 

[RandomGuy2345]

GRACE!