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Batman (Post-Crisis) vs Jotaro Kujo [Rematch]
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You said "no reasons or examples", not "no scans or context". If you're gonna complain something is missing, please know what you're complaining about.
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@Yobo
When he opened with battarangs, did the person he sas fighting against had obvious projectile weaponry he could see or deduce they had, and/or did he knew them before hand.
Because in this fight, he is seeing a high school student grabbing his hat in the middle of central park.
When he opened with battarangs, did the person he sas fighting against had obvious projectile weaponry he could see or deduce they had, and/or did he knew them before hand.
Because in this fight, he is seeing a high school student grabbing his hat in the middle of central park.
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An example is anything illustrating a general rule, as in, mentioning multiple instances to show that it is consistent; having scans or not has nothing to do with it.
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Ok, but this has nothing to do with what we're talking about; we're talking about whether they are examples or not, not if they're good or bad examples, since you said "no examples", as in, none period.
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I'm not trying to determine the validity of anything, mostly because I don't really care for the fight that much, I just saw you saying "no examples" and corrected you.
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It doesn't matter, really, I just like nitpicking; if you want to drop the subject, then just stop talking about it and I will follow you, I'm just going on with whatever you guys are talking about.
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won't a good ol' bat kick do the job?
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@Yobo
This is important to determine whether this would be incon or win for Batman:
If he throws the battarangs (or any projectile, really), Jotaro has two options. Try to dodge himself, block with SP. If he does this against anyone, regardless of whether he knows them or not, or can't discern if they can counter or block, then we he has a 100% chance to deduce Jotaro has an "invicible force", because...
The one more likely for Jotaro is to just block with SP. Which let's Batman know Jotaro has an "invisible force". It wouldn't take a genius to deduce Jotaro could use it for attack. From here, it's just a matter of outlasting, keeping distance and scouting moves from Jotaro until he creates a strategy that lands him a win. There we go.
However, if it's still 50/50, it lands inconclusive.
While people are overstimating the experience and tactical advantage, others are outright ignoring it. Batman is a genius is the purest sense of the word, specially in combat.
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The problem with that scenario is that ir assumes that they are at enough distance to make it the most likely to happen. But SP has limited range compared to the battarangs (or the many Batman projectiles), so they are fairly close to each other as per SBA.
This narrow's down the possibility of deducing that winning strategy, regardless of if Batman starts with projectiles or not (imo). Instintive Reactions only takes you so far (unless Batman has showings on it working 100% of the time without failure and dodges everything). He is pressured by a thing he (potentially manages) to know is there, and a single slip could mean the end (since we wouldn't know how strong it is until it hits him).
Yes, he could perceive changes in the air, whatever. But how much until Jotaro surprises with a Star Finger?
As such, we have once again a scenario that's riddled with questions, making it inconclusive.
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TL;DR, if Batman starts with projectiles, he gets closer posibility of winning (and imo, outright wins if they start from enough distance, but sinxe they don't...). But as things are, even if he does, the result is still riddled with enough variables to call it an inconclusive match.
That's my vote. (And yes, I'm ignoring Jotaro's mindset, but honestly, it's not as important as Batman's is for this fight)
This is important to determine whether this would be incon or win for Batman:
If he throws the battarangs (or any projectile, really), Jotaro has two options. Try to dodge himself, block with SP. If he does this against anyone, regardless of whether he knows them or not, or can't discern if they can counter or block, then we he has a 100% chance to deduce Jotaro has an "invicible force", because...
The one more likely for Jotaro is to just block with SP. Which let's Batman know Jotaro has an "invisible force". It wouldn't take a genius to deduce Jotaro could use it for attack. From here, it's just a matter of outlasting, keeping distance and scouting moves from Jotaro until he creates a strategy that lands him a win. There we go.
However, if it's still 50/50, it lands inconclusive.
While people are overstimating the experience and tactical advantage, others are outright ignoring it. Batman is a genius is the purest sense of the word, specially in combat.
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The problem with that scenario is that ir assumes that they are at enough distance to make it the most likely to happen. But SP has limited range compared to the battarangs (or the many Batman projectiles), so they are fairly close to each other as per SBA.
This narrow's down the possibility of deducing that winning strategy, regardless of if Batman starts with projectiles or not (imo). Instintive Reactions only takes you so far (unless Batman has showings on it working 100% of the time without failure and dodges everything). He is pressured by a thing he (potentially manages) to know is there, and a single slip could mean the end (since we wouldn't know how strong it is until it hits him).
Yes, he could perceive changes in the air, whatever. But how much until Jotaro surprises with a Star Finger?
As such, we have once again a scenario that's riddled with questions, making it inconclusive.
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TL;DR, if Batman starts with projectiles, he gets closer posibility of winning (and imo, outright wins if they start from enough distance, but sinxe they don't...). But as things are, even if he does, the result is still riddled with enough variables to call it an inconclusive match.
That's my vote. (And yes, I'm ignoring Jotaro's mindset, but honestly, it's not as important as Batman's is for this fight)
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does this batman have an ability similar to detective vision?
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More simplified version of my analysis. ovo
If Batman it's stupid, he looses.
If Batman it's smart enough, he equals.
If Batman it's both smart and it's away from Jotaro, he wins.
If Batman it's stupid, he looses.
If Batman it's smart enough, he equals.
If Batman it's both smart and it's away from Jotaro, he wins.
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1. won't happen, he doesn't allow these things to happen in fights
2. likely
3. If he sees he has SP, he may keep his distance and spam batarangs
2. likely
3. If he sees he has SP, he may keep his distance and spam batarangs
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Star Finger could help.
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Batman cannot spam batarangs at the level of the danmaku that was DIO's knives.
If he stays at range chucking batarangs, SP will swat them aside with one hand and finger him with the other.
If he stays at range chucking batarangs, SP will swat them aside with one hand and finger him with the other.
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I don't think Batman would open with the deadlier variants since it is not in his character to kill. And Batman's spam rate is nowhere near the rate of Emerald Splash or DIO's knives.
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Anyway, I have already given my vote, will take my leave.
Upset he had to simplify an already simple analysis. ovo
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Actually, Batman has known to throw things and have them purposefully miss or easy to block so that the actual attacks goes through (like toxins or such). That would work against Jotaro. However, if SP were to suck in the toxins, would it work? I mean he absorbed Justice so idk
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Well, if Batman doesn't use his best projectiles, I guess Jotaro could just finger him, unless he can dodge that, idk.
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How does Batman view Jotaro? I know he is a detective but that doesn't give him prior knowledge. This would effect how he would try to approach the situation. I mean, this is a single foe.
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Of which, Star Platinum can inhale and blow back in his face.Paulo.junior.969 said:
No it would not harm him, Star Platinum's lungs do not seem to correlate to Jotaro's like the rest of the body. Inhaling Justice did not seem to affect Jotaro's capability to breathe or even talk.
Without any knowledge of Jotaro, Batman would likely be cautious and on the defensive. He's not used to fighting the unknown. If he trusts what he sees then he gets manhandled by Star Platinum. If he doesn't then he plays safe and makes this a harder match, but still likely gets manhandled IMO.
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I'm leaning toward Jotaro FRA.
It's unlikely that Batman would go all out from the beginning with his best equipment or anything like that. I mean one look at Jotaro and Batman would assume that he's just a common street thug with no weapons of any sort. Now Bats can do two things: either rush at Jotaro in an attempt to knock him out swiftly and get the fight over with (since again Jotaro looks like a common thug so his guard would be let down a little) or he'd start off with a batarang or two.
In the first scenario, Batman gets beat down senselessly by SP. Meanwhile in the second sceanrio, SP just catches the batarangs and flings them right back at Bats. From this, Batman would assume Jotaro has powers at this point, likely telekinesis or something (since he's dealt with foes like that before) and might opt to CQC since he knows his projectiles would be of little help. Batman would try to use stealth and get the drop on Jotaro... until SP materializes before Bats can land a blow and beats him senselessly again. That's how I see things going IMO.
It's unlikely that Batman would go all out from the beginning with his best equipment or anything like that. I mean one look at Jotaro and Batman would assume that he's just a common street thug with no weapons of any sort. Now Bats can do two things: either rush at Jotaro in an attempt to knock him out swiftly and get the fight over with (since again Jotaro looks like a common thug so his guard would be let down a little) or he'd start off with a batarang or two.
In the first scenario, Batman gets beat down senselessly by SP. Meanwhile in the second sceanrio, SP just catches the batarangs and flings them right back at Bats. From this, Batman would assume Jotaro has powers at this point, likely telekinesis or something (since he's dealt with foes like that before) and might opt to CQC since he knows his projectiles would be of little help. Batman would try to use stealth and get the drop on Jotaro... until SP materializes before Bats can land a blow and beats him senselessly again. That's how I see things going IMO.
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This actually existed without my knowledge.
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Lmao.Yobo Blue said:
