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Half a kilometer? His range is unknown
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Arjuna Alter vs Machina
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Why are you assuming Arjuna would just sit half a kilometer in the air when he never did that
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Machina via quality
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Because precogPaul Frank said:
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Clairvoyance was addressed above by GinSan
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Why can't Machina, you know, jump?
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Ah shit. It will be debatable now. Machina can move at FTL but then again Arjuna can precog it with Clairvoyance then teleport, unless Machina has a sure hit ability like William Tell with his NP. How fast a Servant can move id not always consistent with their AGI stats nor do the rest of their parameters, just reminders.
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Just a note. Feel free to read or not: How fast a Servant can move is not always consistent with their AGI stats nor do the rest of their parameters, just reminders. Xiang Yu has Mana D in his stats but then in China LB he had dragon level mana from his reactor which is like A+ or A++ at least. Hassan Cursed Arm and Melt have the same AGI, but CAH can barely evade Tristan's vacuum arrows in Camelot while Melt now in CCC manga makes his arrows a joke. Raikou with AGI D can keep up with and even outmatch other swordsman Servants no sweats. Passionlip with STR A+ can beat Kingprotea with STR EX in an arm wrestle and fist fight, and so on...
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Speed equalized tho
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Paul Frank said:
maybe because the 1st and shittiest archer in the entire franchise has a habit of masterfully raining down hails of arrows from at least 4kms away?
"why cant he jump"?
idk, why dont you try jumping and grabbing a dragonfly, even if it were to stand within jumping reach?
360 degree air movement is a big advantage in any scenario. why do you think humanity has desired the power of flight for at least 20000 years?
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maybe because the 1st and shittiest archer in the entire franchise has a habit of masterfully raining down hails of arrows from at least 4kms away?
>Looks at class
>Berseker
>Looks at class
>Berseker
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Change dragonfly to lighting bug, and I can say that I have done that. If you want to catch something, and you can reach it by jumping, you will try and reach it. Just because Arjuna is flying, doesn't mean Machina is going to stop trying to fight him.Embracetophats said:
This isn't an argument, just because the ability of flight gives Arjuna an advatange, does not mean that Machina can't jump to reach him, and Machina doesn't even need to be exact in his punches because his punches cause a pressure which is a weapon in and of itself.
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1- his punches really only work like that if you are really close to him. if it werent, he wouldnt run around trying to get close to schreiber in that same scene and wouldnt need to, according to shcreiber, power through Eleonore's fire in order to punch her out. he would just send air bullets. even Ren only bothers with the air pressure when he just barely dodges the punches.
2- air pressure doesnt work on servants. their fights are filled with the stuff and it doesnt do shit. saber cut a road with a casual swing in FZ and Diarmuid ripped off steel just by fighting around the steel objects. Karna's thrusts pack so much of a punch that they make noise equivalent to canon fire with each blow that hits nothing but air. Apocrypha has golems being ripped to shreds just by getting within a certain range of servants fighting. Spartacus explained it will enough. the only non direct attack that will work on a Servant is physical shrappnel that is laced with a high ammount of magical energy.
3- catching fireflies is easy. i lived in rural areas most of my life. a dragonly is much more active. also, let me say this for like the 4th time ARJUNA CAN INSTANT TELEPORT SPAM!!
2- air pressure doesnt work on servants. their fights are filled with the stuff and it doesnt do shit. saber cut a road with a casual swing in FZ and Diarmuid ripped off steel just by fighting around the steel objects. Karna's thrusts pack so much of a punch that they make noise equivalent to canon fire with each blow that hits nothing but air. Apocrypha has golems being ripped to shreds just by getting within a certain range of servants fighting. Spartacus explained it will enough. the only non direct attack that will work on a Servant is physical shrappnel that is laced with a high ammount of magical energy.
3- catching fireflies is easy. i lived in rural areas most of my life. a dragonly is much more active. also, let me say this for like the 4th time ARJUNA CAN INSTANT TELEPORT SPAM!!
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Makkurona said:
ever since FGO came around, zerkers are no longer stupid or mad. they are just eccentric.
so basically, most berserkers nowadays dont have any drawbacks besides being stubborn
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