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Power to you, dudette. I'll wait for the other staff to comment.
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Another shot at Yggdrasil (God of War)
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No problems.
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Not how the tiering system works ATM brother.
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Mate... I was not updated. Fine, already two girls above me killed me.
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On what planet is this flowery language? Why would it be flowery language given everything we're told about Yggdrasil?
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Nah KLOL, the cosmic tree that supports all of creation on its branches, transcends space and time and binds life and death to itself is a couple hundred yards across. Didn't you see the loading between realms?
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LOL
In all seriousness tho, the statement is very clearly in reference to the branches themselves, nothing to do with the environment.
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Because it did not describe it directly rather metaphorically.
Unless you say that "like" is never declared as describing something metaphorically, so i can take your word for that.
Unless you say that "like" is never declared as describing something metaphorically, so i can take your word for that.
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Because it's not? It's only talking about the branches themselves, not that hard to grasp.
There is literally a tree branch right in that environment that they walk on friend. Nothing metaphorical about this. GoW doesn't work like that at all.
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I have no clue how you came to that conclusion TBF, there is nothing here that would indicate this to be a metaphor in the first place.
Obviously, GoW doesn't deal with size descriptions in the metaphorical sense anyway. It likes to be direct about it most of the time.
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Any evidence or only this scan? Since you are now implying it's existence as true.
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"It's a metaphor" fails because the relevant portion (the resemblance to a tree) is literal. The infinity part isn't being referenced by the conjuction either so that doesn't factor in either.
And the scan is enough. I don't know why this is a fallback when it's such a straightforward statement anyway.
And the scan is enough. I don't know why this is a fallback when it's such a straightforward statement anyway.
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It literally said "like". How is that not metaphor?
Why that? Now you are going to convince me why this verse get special treatment and all verses don't?
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Do you know what a metaphor is? Legitimately, can you actually describe why this is metaphorical beyond "well, they used like"?
If another verse says "Like a crystal streching out to infinity" and they are walking on a crystal then it can be accepted. So long as this isn't contradicted or far beyond what showings said crystal has.
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It can't even be contradicted since there is a single scan that mention it. Like
Alright, step by step, since it is literal, prove that this tree actually exist.
Alright, step by step, since it is literal, prove that this tree actually exist.
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Are you actually being serious right now
That Tree is Yggdrasil itself. Literally why they travel to the Realm Between Realms to jump off to use the Unity Stone to get to the hidden Jotunheim temple.
Metaphors don't even use "like".
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May I see the evidence of that the tree in that scan implies Yggdrasil because I don't see any context behind it.
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Alright I will respectfully watch it. Thanks for sharing.
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See the video Planck linked. That chapter scan is literally about Kratos, Atreus and Mimir jumping off of the edge with the Unity Stone in hand.
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Wait, does the video describe the part of the novel that Planck shared?
Mind anyone confirm that to me?
Mind anyone confirm that to me?
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Yes. They went to the Yggdrasil to jump off with the Unity Stone to reach another branch and access the missing Jotunheim tower.
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Before I comment, but the moment he jumped is the same moment of branching part in the text?
Yes?
Yes?
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IDK, without an actual, more direct size comparison like KH and Bayo, I'm not sold on making Yggdrasil Low 1-C.
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Just afterwards, yeah. Happens immediately after they get the talisman (Unity Stone in the game).
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Yes. That part in the novel coincides with the video.
I really, really hope the next post won't be "but the branch they're on doesn't look infinite, but circular".
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Okay, but similes do. And similes are also figures of speech. I agree with Dread on the matter, that phrase does appear to be flowery language and I don't think it should be used in the manner being proposed.
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Ya mate, you can hate me but it sounds metaphorical described. Sorry but I can't buy this.
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Except, this isn't flowery language in the least bit for the reasons Planck and I have mentioned.
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I'm addressing your arguments not trying to convert you. So long as everything about my point has been made clear then I leave the rest to staff decision.
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You do you I suppose. Staff will check over it later.
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I don't care whether this qualifies for Tier 1 or not (IMHO it doesn't), but saying that the tree branches of the Yggdrasil stretching out to infinity is hyperbole or metaphorical is just sheer lunacy given the context of the tree, its purpose, and the story behind the entire Unity Stone debacle that Kratos, Atreus and Mimir have to go through. That's all I'll say regarding this manner.
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100% this. I don't get how people missed this bit.
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You seriously asked this question?
It's like asking to prove sky exists or ground exists.
I coughed my snot out violently when I read this.
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Anyway, as a reminder;
I have no horses in this race but I'll just summarize what we know about Yggdrasil;
That's the tier relevant information about it. What this amounts to is up to people's evaluation.
@Maverick_Zero_X @Elizhaa @Celestial_Pegasus @Theglassman12 @Emirp sumitpo @Milly_Rocking_Bandit @ShivaShakti
What do you think?
I have no horses in this race but I'll just summarize what we know about Yggdrasil;
- It is stated that its every strand transcends space and time.
- It holds all of the Nine Realms on its branches and said realms are space-time continuums/planes of existence.
- It exists in the Realm Between Realms, which exists outside the Nine Realms and is the expanse in which Yggdrasil exists.
- The branches from the perspective of the Realm Between Realms stretch unto infinity, relative to the World Tree itself.
- It contains the Ginnungagap, the void from which Ymir sprung and in which he existed. Said being's body eventually became the Nine Realms.
- Nothing that affects the realms has ever affected the World Tree.
That's the tier relevant information about it. What this amounts to is up to people's evaluation.
@Maverick_Zero_X @Elizhaa @Celestial_Pegasus @Theglassman12 @Emirp sumitpo @Milly_Rocking_Bandit @ShivaShakti
What do you think?
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Anyway, I'll take a crack at this.
Anyway, the reasonings from my perspective are not sufficient enough for a Low 1-C rating in the least bit. Put me up for Disagree.
The Realm Between Realms is irrelevant.
That only grants Yggdrasil higher-dimensional existence at the bare minimum, it's too vague to imply Low 1-C without a proper blatant size comparison stuff. Even the "stretching to infinity" statement doesn't mean much other than just mere encompassment, and even the latter (Tier 1 and its standards) will undergo some revisions so might as well leave it altogether. It's worthless.
Realm Between Realms is not stated to be bound to Yggdrasil's existence, it isn't even mentioned by Freya at all. Nobody ever makes mention of that void.
Once again, Realm Between Realms and Ginnungagap are not the one and the same void. Ginnungagap is the Spark of the World. None of this is relevant to the Tier 1 scaling.
Not really sure how this factors in to the Low 1-C stuff one bit.
Anyway, the reasonings from my perspective are not sufficient enough for a Low 1-C rating in the least bit. Put me up for Disagree.
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