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Speed equal.... He can't move jump faster than luffy's gear 3rd are.... Wtf is this baised I am seeing? Now garou has a far higher speed amp?
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A Human Monster VS A Rubber Human
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1. That's not speed equal 2. He is just faster than them.
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Why would he need to go G4 if he had G3 which would take far less stamina and time to destroy the ship???? He used the barrage against Katakuri because literally none of his attacks were hitting.
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Isn't grave already over?
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Too big
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They're the same speed... You should know considering how you are "the most knowledgable about OPM" here.
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If he is the same speed than he would get hit...
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Except again he was explicitly told not to destroy the Ship before he could use G4. G3 takes a lot of time to fully destroy Noah, the fastest and easiest way for Luffy to destroy the Noah was clearly G4. Where would you get the idea that Luffy wouldn't use G4 just because of stamina issues? He combined both G2 and G3, fully knowing the consequences of combining both Gears.
That's the point, Luffy wouldn't hesitate to use G3 barrage once he realize he can't hit him normally with an elephant gun.
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Ok first of all, Luffy has no speed amps outside of g2 (which he's using already) and g4 (restricted) and I guess Observation Haki(?) though that's not really a speed amp, it's more of just seeing into the future yada yada.
Garou on the otherhand has Adaption: His senses grows sharper as he continually fights, Reactive Power Level, Stats Amp and Rage Power.
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That doesn't mean he can dodge AOE when speed is equal... Luffy can't, literally no one besides speed amps or hax can dodge AOE in speed equal in this site
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I think grace is over?
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Yet he uses G2 and G3 knowing full well of the consequences. G4 consequences are worse (short term). Luffy uses G3 when G2 doesn't work. (Fuji, Oars, Lucci) but Gear 2 WOULD work against Garou. Garou just has immense pain tolerance to the point that he can tank his g2 attacks. Luffy using the barrage is still pretty slim especially in close range???
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Actually he can via analytical prediction. It works on someone who's massively faster than him (FTL) that he garou himself, admitted that he can't see saitama punches by reaction alone.
Btw voting for Garou as he grows stronger in midst battle which he'll eventually surpass his opponent and one shot them.
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Luffy uses barrage close, mid and long range...
Luffy can tank garous attacks like it's nothing besides the cutting
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G4 is actually not worse. G2 shortens his life spans. G3 shrinks his body. G4 is just him being unable to use Haki for the next 10 mins.
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Not when the opponent has much better senses...
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That's pre timeskip... That doesn't happen post
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Yet he uses g2 and g3 more than g4, which is why im saying not in the long run g2 and g3 are better (also i thought he overcame the g3 weakness by timeksip?)
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We were talking about Pre-time-skip, specifically Thriller bark arc, though he doesn't have G4 there. But I personally believe the drawbacks of G2 are far worse than G4.
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yeah i thought so
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And gear 2nd
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Ehhh i doubt that anyway he ain't touching this man specially if they're speed equalized. Still voting for Garou via his RE nature.
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Well yeah, it is. But he spams it knowing full well what the drawbacks are. Compared to g4 he doesn't unless he has no other choice (pre wano)
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What you mean you doubt that... luffy has actual precog while garou doesn't...
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Wasn't you talking about sensing?
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In this case with garou 110% yes it is
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That's sensing... Sensing emotion, sensing intent (mind reading), sense presence and much more
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I mean, Noah almost left him no other choice too. His initial objective was to destroy the Noah before it reached the fishman island. G3 barrage took a lot of time. The easiest way to destroy the Noah was G4, before Luffy could consider G4 as an option he heard some mysterious voices that he shouldn't destroy the Noah, hence he stopped punching it anymore.
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Reaction speed is equalized. Also Luffy has precognition, danger senses, emotion senses and mind reading ability, he should be able to read Garou's movement (I am just answering your question)
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Luffy has better prediction... MUCH MUCH better prediction... He can predict the future While garou can only guess where they might go
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Garou: Adaptation, Reactive Power Level, Transformation, Enhanced Senses, Instinctive Reaction, Analytical Prediction, Stats Amplification, Rage Power. (This is just base form, in Half Monster form (which he's in), everything is enhanced) He also has Reactive Evolution in Half Monster form.*
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Stop.
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So then if that's the case why didn't he go for G4 in the first place/ in the beginning. He went for G3 first, either because he didn't want to go to g4, or Luffy considered g4's weakness to be too much of a cost since g3 can do it (while slower it still gets the job done)
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