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Garou vs Deku [OPM vs MHA] (14-1-0) (GRACE)
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I am talking about him going on his knees.
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After having god's power leave his body, a process that usually kills you? Anyone else would be dead. He shouldn't be on his knees. He should be dead
Imagine up a scenario man. Garou gets transported to the mha world and seeing a hero, hunts deku or something
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None of us are forgetting. Garou doesn't kill but will still destroy your bones and your insides. man is so good at not killing :d
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He fell on his knees before he lost power.
He still wouldn't just hunt a teenager. He is not Stain.
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So will Deku if you forgot what happened to Muscular.
And that 5x difference is more that enough to cripple Garou
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Ignoring the fact that Garou has insane pain tolerance and will tank shit like getting his chest pierced, ribcages shattered or his hand being desintegrated.We are forgetting. Garou doesn't kill either. Also doesn't need to be killed to be stopped. Overwhelming pain will knock him down.
Also Garou is more than willingly to brutally incapacitate his enemies, he’s more than ok dismembering heroes or breaking all of their bones in a fight, he does it with Bomb, Bang, Blue Fire etc
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Garou is like 18, very close to Deku’s age, also bro kicked Metal Bat’s ass and he’s 17
Age is basically irrelevant here
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He sure wasn't fine after Bug God gave him a visit.
Also are we really doing this ? You wanna talk about pain tolerance against "Mr I break my Bones to win school competitions"
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Bro was like fine against Bug God. Also wtf, right in the same fight Garou got brutalized by Royal Ripper, and he recovered from that. Ignoring the fact that this was a human garou, and we are talking about a monster 4 armed demon garou that broke his limits many and many times over
Yes we will compare Mr I break my bones vs mr “is starting to break his own limiter”
Breaking a limiter or even reaching such a massive power boost needs stupid amounts of willpower and pain tolerance, you basically have to survive biological death through sheer will and not even guys with stupid willpower like Zombieman could do it
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Everyone is addressing how much damage he can take already. Him going down on his knees is secondary to what his limits exactly are
Also dude beat up metal bat and he didnt exactly know how old he is, which btw, mb is 17.
Furthermore, is there literally no scenario anyone can drum up with where they are goaded into fighting for whatever reason but get to be in-character?
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Garou has regeneration, resistance to immense pain, willpower that would definitely allow him to continue.
...Are you kidding? Garou loses his arm and acts like it's nothing. He suffers near death and survives against Death itself. all bones in his chest has been broken. His willpower system itself after getting closer to break his limits over and over is enough for him to continue against anything Deku can do to him.
Also come on it's a versus thread, what are these comments lmao.
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Anyways, can anyone who's pro deku address this? It pretty much decides who wins
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Deku pain tolerance and willpower are still very high. Also stat advantage. You keep forgetting. 5 times faster and stronger.
So you are saying Deku just has to damage him till he can't regen. Pretty easy considering Garou's regen is rated at Low Mid. So spine breaking it is. Keep in mind Mirko was able to kill Nomu's with Mid regen which is higher than Garou's.
So you are saying Deku just has to damage him till he can't regen. Pretty easy considering Garou's regen is rated at Low Mid. So spine breaking it is. Keep in mind Mirko was able to kill Nomu's with Mid regen which is higher than Garou's.
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It completely depends on how Garou addresses himself. If he just comes of as a monster from other dimension, Izuku might just dust him on spot.
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...but if he doesn't? If the strangely social native speaking monster talks and presents itself as a non mindless beast like the nomu despite showing hostility?
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Why wouldn't he ? Garou introduces himself as such always. A Monster.
I Deku mentioned quirks and Garou say didn't understand what "quirks" are. It would pretty much spell out Not from this world. We don't know how Izuku would react to that. But if he attacked heroes before then he might go for the kill.
We know he immediately destroy non human enemies like robots and mud monsters.
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Garou still continues. he moves even after all bones in his chest were destroyed which he was supposed to die. He has immense pain resistance + immortality type 2. And immortality type 2 comes with explosive growth.
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For real though? Would Deku think Garou is a real monster? this version of him doesn't really look anything like a human? Would he try to kill or he'd still try to win without killing.
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yes if garou attacks heroes before, BUT very pointedly doesn't kill any of them...
So the monster introduces itself as a monster, BUT has the mental faculties that differentiate it from the standard monster like nomus. Is shown to speak the same language implying it came from this world, while its ignorance of quirks could interpreted as either him coming from another world, OR a lab experiment having escaped. Any hesitance or unsurety is a second added to not immediately killing garou
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Might be my fault when i stated they might not be immediately going for the kill
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If Deku goes for a kill, he's definitely losing. Garou immortality type 2 kicks in, explosive growth + reactive growth. Garou way surpasses him and one shots.
If he doesn't, nothing changes much. 5x difference is shown to be nothing that much for Garou. Garou is way more skilled as well. While the gap gets smaller, he's more than capable of handling Deku.
If he doesn't, nothing changes much. 5x difference is shown to be nothing that much for Garou. Garou is way more skilled as well. While the gap gets smaller, he's more than capable of handling Deku.
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I'm going with Garou here, tbh.
A stat difference "near but not enough to one shot" is something Garou has already surpassed, just see the fight against Darkshine, where he started getting his entire chest crushed by an "absolute unavoidable hit" just to stand up through pure will and end up countering said strength as well as overwhelming Darkshine in the midst of the battle.
He has shown to grow several times his strength in a short time too, just refer to his AP section for that.
About the speed part, he went from creating a big constellation moving some meters at 0.1s, to then create a big constellation by fighting at times of 0.001s, to create an even bigger constellation at times of 0.0001s; all of that under a single fight. Ending said fight by speedblitzing and one shotting the character who previously was matching him in speed.
That plus the insane difference in skill, the LS difference, shockwaves capable of defeating comparable enemies with a single glaze (meaning Deku would have to evade even being glazed by his punches) that get honed to perfection the more time passes should be enough to warrant Garou's victory.
Not to mention Garou's immense pain resistance is nothing to laugh at. He had fought while poisoned, after many fights with almost no rest against a team of several people, thinking how to counter measure their tactics with no rest to then overwhelm them and fight against an S-Class hero without giving up. He also survived and could fight back after his entire chest was broken apart by an "instant death attack". Surviving near-death experiences is something usual for beings who are breaking their limiters, which Garou did several times.
A stat difference "near but not enough to one shot" is something Garou has already surpassed, just see the fight against Darkshine, where he started getting his entire chest crushed by an "absolute unavoidable hit" just to stand up through pure will and end up countering said strength as well as overwhelming Darkshine in the midst of the battle.
He has shown to grow several times his strength in a short time too, just refer to his AP section for that.
About the speed part, he went from creating a big constellation moving some meters at 0.1s, to then create a big constellation by fighting at times of 0.001s, to create an even bigger constellation at times of 0.0001s; all of that under a single fight. Ending said fight by speedblitzing and one shotting the character who previously was matching him in speed.
That plus the insane difference in skill, the LS difference, shockwaves capable of defeating comparable enemies with a single glaze (meaning Deku would have to evade even being glazed by his punches) that get honed to perfection the more time passes should be enough to warrant Garou's victory.
Not to mention Garou's immense pain resistance is nothing to laugh at. He had fought while poisoned, after many fights with almost no rest against a team of several people, thinking how to counter measure their tactics with no rest to then overwhelm them and fight against an S-Class hero without giving up. He also survived and could fight back after his entire chest was broken apart by an "instant death attack". Surviving near-death experiences is something usual for beings who are breaking their limiters, which Garou did several times.
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Deku does not respect the Heteromorphs. His ass is NOT majing Shouji proud.
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what if garou just copies fa jin and gear shift
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Pretty sure he can't do that.what if garou just copies fa jin and gear shift
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garou can copy fa jin because its a technique
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This is a very unfortunate match. Deku's 5x amps mean absolutely nothing as Garou's prediction ability is so advanced that he can predict all possible moves that the opponent can throw out an prepare for each one. In his sleep. Against characters incomprehensibly above Deku in skill, being described as having Godlike technique and to have surpassed the peaks of of the martial arts world by leaps and bounds.
Garou was able to grow from High Hypersonic to FTL instantly before even becoming a full monster. Now as a monster he grows at far faster and larger rates than that simply by getting upset so the idea that a mere 5x speed advantage (which isn't even enough to blitz according to Versus Thread Rules) would do anything meaningful is silly. Garou also has a massive LS advantage which he can and will use to crush, mangle, amputate, or decapitate Deku.
5x AP also isn't an issue. 5x is not enough to one shot. Garou has type 2 immortality and extreme pain tolerance on top of his regeneration and reactive evolution so he'd end up reaching and surpassing Fa Jin levels with his normal strikes and durability after taking them.
Garou was able to grow from High Hypersonic to FTL instantly before even becoming a full monster. Now as a monster he grows at far faster and larger rates than that simply by getting upset so the idea that a mere 5x speed advantage (which isn't even enough to blitz according to Versus Thread Rules) would do anything meaningful is silly. Garou also has a massive LS advantage which he can and will use to crush, mangle, amputate, or decapitate Deku.
5x AP also isn't an issue. 5x is not enough to one shot. Garou has type 2 immortality and extreme pain tolerance on top of his regeneration and reactive evolution so he'd end up reaching and surpassing Fa Jin levels with his normal strikes and durability after taking them.
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Yes he can. Monsterization changes the body's biology at a cellular level, granting Garou a type of Reactive Evolution that allows him to give himself abilities. Since Quirks are similar in that way, Garou's body should technically be capable of recreating some of Deku's abilities. It's not really out of character for him to do given how he immediately attempted to recreate universal phenomena after gaining knowledge from God.
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What the ****? No it's not, it's a Quirk.
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Isn't this supposed to be Extraordinary Genius combat intelligence?
This quirk works via energy manipulation. Garou should be able to copy the principle. He can't normally copy quirks though. It's just that he seemingly already has the abilities THIS quirk uses.
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he either copies it or evolves to it
pick ur poison ig
pick ur poison ig
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He does both
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Okay lets throw a bone and say that before miliseconds went by, garou CANT effectively defend himself and deku damages the body just enough that he knows that injury would kill garou.
Deku isn't aware of garou's immortality type 2. There is no reason for deku to continue inflicting injury to someone he knows is already dead, and with only a 5x ap disparity, deku would have to act out of character to desecrate a corpse to do enough damage where garou cant come back from.
Even giving Deku the advantage, garou will always have enough time to trigger and grow from reactive evo/explosive growth.
This is the issue that first needs to be addressed.
Deku isn't aware of garou's immortality type 2. There is no reason for deku to continue inflicting injury to someone he knows is already dead, and with only a 5x ap disparity, deku would have to act out of character to desecrate a corpse to do enough damage where garou cant come back from.
Even giving Deku the advantage, garou will always have enough time to trigger and grow from reactive evo/explosive growth.
This is the issue that first needs to be addressed.
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