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He lost because he let them win
 
Colonel Krukov said:
Final Form Ultron was capable of casually withstanding the combined attacks of a vast army of Marvel powerhouses, including Carol Danvers, Silver Surfer, Hercules, Dr. Doom, The Vision, Magneto, Spectrum, two Quasars, several Mar-Vells, Kang the Conqueror, Cyclops, Kang's future army, and countless others that could not fit into the panel (other characters shown in other panels are Juggernaut, Moondragon, Volstagg, Wonder Man, The Thing, Hank Pym, Terrax, and the Sentry. source
So... Ultron would win?
 
Not saying he'd win, but he'd be among the final contenders.
 
@Byakuya You can put Silver Surfer, Thor, and Beyonders as dead
 
The real cal howard said:
Surfer jobs to hell and back. That shouldn't count for him.
Don't Ultron easily beat him though if he can easily tank his attacks as well as all the Marvel powerhouses too?
 
Laughing Manson said:
Does Martian Manhunter's intangiblility protect him for transmutation and bio manipulation? If not, then Silver Surfer kills him.
Surfer has Soul Manip. I don't think MM ever had a chance.

BTW, Ultron probably doesn't have a soul to destroy in the first place
 
RoyGundam said:
Laughing Manson said:
Does Martian Manhunter's intangiblility protect him for transmutation and bio manipulation? If not, then Silver Surfer kills him.
Surfer has Soul Manip. I don't think MM ever had a chance.
BTW, Ultron probably doesn't have a soul to destroy in the first place
He may be artificial intelligence, but in the end, Ultron is a machine, and lacks a soul.
 
HellFire707 said:
He may be artificial intelligence, but in the end, Ultron is a machine, and lacks a soul.
He's a machine. And then he's a rocking chair because Surfer decided to stop jobbing. You can't use Marvel PIS to say one character is stronger than the other when it's someone like both of them, Surfer or Ultron. Or Thor for that matter.
 
PaChi2 said:
Nobody is mentioning Mickey mouse...
He doesn't really have that great hax compared to others outside of toonforce.
 
The real cal howard said:
HellFire707 said:
He may be artificial intelligence, but in the end, Ultron is a machine, and lacks a soul.
He's a machine. And then he's a rocking chair because Surfer decided to stop jobbing. You can't use Marvel PIS to say one character is stronger than the other when it's someone like both of them, Surfer or Ultron. Or Thor for that matter.
...Isn't Surfer dead right now? Like, in this battle royale?
 
He doesn't really have that great hax compared to others outside of toonforce.

Then he should die?
 
Joseph619 said:
...Isn't Surfer dead right now? Like, in this battle royale?
? Who's going to kill Surfer here?
Don't ask me. Colonel Krukov wrote:

@Byakuya You can put Silver Surfer, Thor, and Beyonders as dead
 
HellFire707 said:
Don't ask me. [I][SIZE=14px][FONT=monospace]Colonel Krukov said:
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@Byakuya You can put Silver Surfer, Thor, and Beyonders as dead
Whoever fought Surfer in the comics is irrelvant here, Surfer is always holding back and jobbing because of plot. Nobody is killing a PIS off Surfer here
 
Sephiroth, Superman and Xemnas can die too, 4-B SCP has enough adaptability and power to take them down.
 
Colonel Krukov said:
Final Form Ultron was capable of casually withstanding the combined attacks of a vast army of Marvel powerhouses, including Carol Danvers, Silver Surfer, Hercules, Dr. Doom, The Vision, Magneto, Spectrum, two Quasars, several Mar-Vells, Kang the Conqueror, Cyclops, Kang's future army, and countless others that could not fit into the panel (other characters shown in other panels are Juggernaut, Moondragon, Volstagg, Wonder Man, The Thing, Hank Pym, Terrax, and the Sentry. source
This is why Surfer is dead
 
Colonel Krukov said:
This is why Surfer is dead
Cal already explained why that doesn't matter here, Surfer never uses his full power against major villains and is always jobbing. Ultron's fight would not matter here since it's fight to death and PIS is off. Nobody here can kill a bloodlusted, PIS off Surfer
 
Not gonna lie, you guys are overestimating 682's ability to kill people who are not only on his level, but a hell of a lot more skilled, versatile, and haxxed. 682 isn't dying as usual, but he's never gonna get one over on Supes or Sephiroth due to being basic (other than that one use Black Hole thing)
 
The real cal howard said:
Not gonna lie, you guys are overestimating 682's ability to kill people who are not only on his level, but a hell of a lot more skilled, versatile, and haxxed. 682 isn't dying as usual, but he's never gonna get one over on Supes or Sephiroth due to being basic (other than that one use Black Hole thing)
Thing is there are only like 4 people who are 3D who can't tiebreak with 682 and it ending in their favor lol
 
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