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He lost because he let them win
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So... Ultron would win?Colonel Krukov said:Final Form Ultron was capable of casually withstanding the combined attacks of a vast army of Marvel powerhouses, including Carol Danvers, Silver Surfer, Hercules, Dr. Doom, The Vision, Magneto, Spectrum, two Quasars, several Mar-Vells, Kang the Conqueror, Cyclops, Kang's future army, and countless others that could not fit into the panel (other characters shown in other panels are Juggernaut, Moondragon, Volstagg, Wonder Man, The Thing, Hank Pym, Terrax, and the Sentry. source
Don't Ultron easily beat him though if he can easily tank his attacks as well as all the Marvel powerhouses too?The real cal howard said:Surfer jobs to hell and back. That shouldn't count for him.
Surfer has Soul Manip. I don't think MM ever had a chance.Laughing Manson said:Does Martian Manhunter's intangiblility protect him for transmutation and bio manipulation? If not, then Silver Surfer kills him.
He may be artificial intelligence, but in the end, Ultron is a machine, and lacks a soul.RoyGundam said:Surfer has Soul Manip. I don't think MM ever had a chance.Laughing Manson said:Does Martian Manhunter's intangiblility protect him for transmutation and bio manipulation? If not, then Silver Surfer kills him.
BTW, Ultron probably doesn't have a soul to destroy in the first place
Okay thanks for letting me know.Colonel Krukov said:@Byakuya You can put Silver Surfer, Thor, and Beyonders as dead
He's a machine. And then he's a rocking chair because Surfer decided to stop jobbing. You can't use Marvel PIS to say one character is stronger than the other when it's someone like both of them, Surfer or Ultron. Or Thor for that matter.HellFire707 said:He may be artificial intelligence, but in the end, Ultron is a machine, and lacks a soul.
He doesn't really have that great hax compared to others outside of toonforce.PaChi2 said:Nobody is mentioning Mickey mouse...
...Isn't Surfer dead right now? Like, in this battle royale?The real cal howard said:He's a machine. And then he's a rocking chair because Surfer decided to stop jobbing. You can't use Marvel PIS to say one character is stronger than the other when it's someone like both of them, Surfer or Ultron. Or Thor for that matter.HellFire707 said:He may be artificial intelligence, but in the end, Ultron is a machine, and lacks a soul.
? Who's going to kill Surfer here?Joseph619 said:...Isn't Surfer dead right now? Like, in this battle royale?
Whoever fought Surfer in the comics is irrelvant here, Surfer is always holding back and jobbing because of plot. Nobody is killing a PIS off Surfer hereHellFire707 said:@Byakuya You can put Silver Surfer, Thor, and Beyonders as deadDon't ask me. [I][SIZE=14px][FONT=monospace]Colonel Krukov said:[/FONT][/SIZE][/I]
This is why Surfer is deadColonel Krukov said:Final Form Ultron was capable of casually withstanding the combined attacks of a vast army of Marvel powerhouses, including Carol Danvers, Silver Surfer, Hercules, Dr. Doom, The Vision, Magneto, Spectrum, two Quasars, several Mar-Vells, Kang the Conqueror, Cyclops, Kang's future army, and countless others that could not fit into the panel (other characters shown in other panels are Juggernaut, Moondragon, Volstagg, Wonder Man, The Thing, Hank Pym, Terrax, and the Sentry. source
Cal already explained why that doesn't matter here, Surfer never uses his full power against major villains and is always jobbing. Ultron's fight would not matter here since it's fight to death and PIS is off. Nobody here can kill a bloodlusted, PIS off SurferColonel Krukov said:This is why Surfer is dead
Still the same. Surfer recently escaped the incursion event which erased an entire timeline. Him jobbing to other heroes should not be a factor here. Ultron can't kill Surfer if PIS is offColonel Krukov said:No matter who Kang drafted into his army, he would always be destined to lose due to the amount of power Ultron had amassed.
Thing is there are only like 4 people who are 3D who can't tiebreak with 682 and it ending in their favor lolThe real cal howard said:Not gonna lie, you guys are overestimating 682's ability to kill people who are not only on his level, but a hell of a lot more skilled, versatile, and haxxed. 682 isn't dying as usual, but he's never gonna get one over on Supes or Sephiroth due to being basic (other than that one use Black Hole thing)