More dimensional axis and bigger size in tier 1

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I have some problem with requirement for tier 1. It is clear that tier 1 is based on size

Tier 1: Extradimensional
Characters or objects that can significantly affect spaces of qualitatively greater sizes than ordinary universal models and spaces, usually represented in fiction by higher levels or states of existence (Or "levels of infinity", as referred below) which trivialize everything below them into insignificance, normally by perceiving them as akin to fictional constructs or something infinitesimal.

So the requirement is clear. It must be higher level of infinite or more simple is infinity greater size than lower infinity, that make the different of lower D and higher D is uncountable infinity different and make the lower D is infinitesimall

The problem is when some structure have size of ordinary universe, or lets just say just have size of aleph 0, it clear we just will put it to tier 3A or high 3A. But in some case there are same structure with same size that have more dimensional axis, or lets say 6D 7D or 10D or 100D universe
How we treat them??? Are we still give them higher tier even if their size not infinity larger than infinity size???

And also one question
We usually give higher tier if some character have proof that perceive the entire world just as fiction
But what if it is not the entire world???
Like the proof just say he perceive some person of some rock or some star some planet as fiction???

 

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Bump

 

[Antvasima]

@Elizhaa @Qawsedf234 @Planck69 @DarkGrath

What do you think about this?

 

[Qawsedf234]

Tier 1 is a range to indicate you're destroying or effecting a universal sized area with extra dimensional axis. It's why blowing up a 5D universe and blowing up a 5D multiverse would both grant you Low 1-C, since it's just about effecting a higher dimensional space without further breakdown.

Something being infinite in size is High 3-A. But just being a finitr universe with space time is considered Low 2-C.

So I don't think there's a problem here.

 

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Tier 1 is a range to indicate you're destroying or effecting a universal sized area with extra dimensional axis. It's why blowing up a 5D universe and blowing up a 5D multiverse would both grant you Low 1-C, since it's just about effecting a higher dimensional space without further breakdown.

Something being infinite in size is High 3-A. But just being a finitr universe with space time is considered Low 2-C.

So I don't think there's a problem here.

What i mean in here, in the tiering system it clearly write that tier is based on size, it also writen that for have higher D it must have higher infinity in size

And then we got 5D structure with size of observable universe, and 5D structure that have higher infinity of size compare to the observable universe. Isnt that two structure have very very different superiority?

I mean we not give any HDE character a higher tier because it not have higher infinity size or bigger size, correct? So i just think being have more axis of dimension not will give you higher tier if you not have higher infinity size

 

[Qawsedf234]

it also writen that for have higher D it must have higher infinity in size

Which is accomplished by having more dimensional axis

Characters or objects that can universally affect, create and/or destroy spaces whose size corresponds to one to two higher levels of infinity greater than a standard universal model (Low 2-C structures, in plain English.) In terms of "dimensional" scale, this can be equated to 5 and 6-dimensional real coordinate spaces (R ^ 5 to R ^ 6)

It's about volume along with superiority. You can have a finite universal space and still be higher dimensional if it posses higher dimensional axis.

Isnt that two structure have very very different superiority?

In the system they'd be the same.

mean we not give any HDE character a higher tier because it not have higher infinity size or bigger size, correct?

Certain characters are physically 3D with XD power. Which is why someone like Kratos or Goku don't have HDE but the Bulk Beings or Thanatos would.

 

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It's about volume along with superiority. You can have a finite universal space and still be higher dimensional if it posses higher dimensional axis.

Well the word "low 2C" that you bold, is connected with infinty greater

And isnt real coordinate space or real line is equal to aleph 1 by continuum hypothesis that is mean uncountable infinity or higher infinity

In the system they'd be the same.

They same in dimensional axis, thats what you mean?

Certain characters are physically 3D with XD power. Which is why someone like Kratos or Goku don't have HDE but the Bulk Beings or Thanatos would.

No what i mean in here is, we not give a character that have HDE yeah their physical is HDE a higher tier, because their is not higher infinity in size

Or we give a physically HDE character a higher tier??? Example physically 5D is we give that character a low 1C tier???

 

[Elizhaa]

Higher infinite size is largely related to Large Size; for the others, I more strongly agree with Qawsedf234.

 

[Qawsedf234]

And isnt real coordinate space or real line is equal to aleph 1 by continuum hypothesis that is mean uncountable infinity or higher infinity

That's an example yes. Because it's a perpendicular line that makes the volume immeasurably greater. But the line doesn't need to be infinite just universal.

a character that have HDE yeah their physical is HDE a higher tier, because their is not higher infinity in size

Because the Tier is based on how you relate to a universe sized construct. Being 5D isn't a feat, but being 5D and changing a 4D multiverse is.

 

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That's an example yes. Because it's a perpendicular line that makes the volume immeasurably greater. But the line doesn't need to be infinite just universal.


Because the Tier is based on how you relate to a universe sized construct. Being 5D isn't a feat, but being 5D and changing a 4D multiverse is.

I understand, but isnt they still will have different superiority, the range for example

Or if we brought a high 1B universe that just add more dimensional to the high 1B structure that from higher infinities size. Isnt the first structure is just a infinitesimall thing compare to the second structure