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the downstreamers

  1. Accel0305

    Does this grant any tier?

    The following is a description of a certain character's capability. I'm wondering if it grants any tier, or maybe a likely/possibly. I'm thinking Low 1-A due to similar reason to the Downstreamers, but I'd like to hear more opinions.

  2. Manifold potentially reaching absolute infinity?

    While just looking the Downstreamers wiki page I came across this quote, "Now he understood. This was the purpose. Not the long survival of humankind into a dismal future of decay and shadows, the final retreat into the lossless substrate, where nothing ever changed or grew. The purpose of...
  3. Jibz

    More manifold downgrades

    This is so utterly simple, so this should be quick. Due to a recent thread some feats from the non canon story need to be removed. Those are from this thread: https://vsbattles.com/threads/downstreamers-hax.78629/ Both of these are from short stories that are considered non-canon. So Soul...
  4. Jibz

    Possibly downgrading Two of the strongest Tier 0 characters in the wiki.

    I've been sitting on this debunk ever since this thread in which after a convo with ThreeMagi (original dude who upscaled the verse to tier 0) we concluded (at least I hope, it seemed like he agreed with me) that the verse's scaling did not hold up. To which i decided that this wasn't my...
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    • manifold the downstreamers the goddess of the manifold
    • Replies: 179
    • Forum: Content Revision
  5. Jibz

    Downstreamers CRT

    Yeah, yeah i get it an underwhelming CRT. Not a massive downgrade or even any additions just extra info for the weakness section only applicable for the first key. Downstreamers are quite literally just Computers (wonder if they use Linus). A subsection of the Downstreamers wished to die. They...
  6. Threemagi

    Manifold Re-Evaluation or Adding explanation to their page

    Manifold Tier 0 ness is because of Woodin Cardinal and Level IV Multiverse. But Woodin Cardinal can be called into question here as it belongs to different work. However, it can possibly connect to Manifold after all? ________________________ ▪A Journey to Amasia and Proxima/Ultima Connection...
  7. Jibz

    What logistics does VSBW use to argue Journey to Amasia as canonical to Manifoldverse

    Not devolving this into a CRT, but i will just say I personally don't believe AJTM is canonical, but hey Baxter's no amateur when it comes to connecting his stories, and it's always fun to converse about the subtle connections between stories. However, i'm not convinced that AJTM is canon. So...
  8. Artorimachi_Meteoraft

    the downstreamers vs the timelords

    time lords downstreamers: 3 (@Jibz, @Jockey-1337, @HowManyMemes) Rules: 2-C for downstreamers and Low 2-C for time lords (Last great time war time lords vs Downstreamers/Base Downstreamers) Speed Equalized The time lords have knowledge of the downstreamers but not vice versa Battle takes...
  9. Jockey-1337

    The Goddess of Manifold should have an "Unknown" tier.

    As it was said in the description it is possible that she doesn't exist. So I propose to edit the info, she should have an "Unknown" tier instead of tier 0. The Downstreamers have solid feats to be at their tier, but we don't know whether she is beyond downstreamers, she is a member of their...
  10. Threemagi

    Is this higher D? Or just a(space/time/cause)?

    About Downstreamers/Old Ones' time portals/hoops. What is it? : The portal/hoop tech is not material construct. Rather, it is 'artifact of folded time'. History : It was 'made' the instant the restructuring/collapse of multiverse 'started'. Though it was noted to be 'made instantly (from...
  11. Threemagi

    Manifold : Adding Refs and new Scans/Links to the pages

    I want to add references and new links into The Downstreamers and The Goddess of The Manifold pages. So, there's no ability/tier revision here. Images that not yet uploaded I will upload later when editing. Note that these refs are not complete yet. There will still be some sections without...
  12. Threemagi

    Manifold : Possibly having Woodin Cardinals (Tier 0 Upgrade)

    0. 'Manifold or Baxter (Greater) Multiverse Contains All Logical System of Mathematics' Aka it is a 'Type 4 Multiverse' or something like that. Manifold (Also wider Baxter Multiverse) is governed by deeper source than physical laws. Namely, mathematics and logic, both are underlyings of...
  13. Setsuna_tenma

    Downstreamers question

    wouldn`t their first key be High 1C. M theory is used for High 1C
  14. Ned_the_outer_god

    The Downstreamers vs The Emperor of Mankind

    For this thread Speed Equal Both are 90 km away from each other 2-C Downstreamers vs 4-A Emperor The Emperor of Mankind vs The Downstreamers Downstreamers (Downvote-twitch-streamers): The EMPERUH!!!: Ness:
  15. Ned_the_outer_god

    Downstreamers vs The Dovahkiin

    For this thread Speed Equal Both are 90 km away from each other Dovahkiin vs Downstreamers Downstreamers (Downvote-twitch-streamers): Angry Viking man: Ness:
  16. Jockey-1337

    SCP-001 (S Andrew Swann's Proposal) vs The Downstreamers

    SCP-001 (S Andrew Swann's Proposal) VS The Downstreamers CONDITIONS: Versions: Strongest known canon versions. Victory Conditions: Death, KO. State of mind: Characters will employ their usual battle strategies, including flaws. Knowledge of the other character/verse: No prior knowledge...
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    • manifold scp foundation scp-001 (s andrew swann's proposal) the downstreamers
    • Replies: 4
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  17. Cultivator_Daemon

    The Downstreamers VS. Meng Hao

    Greeting from Comicvine, anyway... let's get this start. This isn't going to end well, I can tell. - Old Ones Downstreamers and Unknown Realms Meng Hao - In-Character.
  18. Threemagi

    The Old Ones/Downstreamers upgrade to Solid 1-A, higher or higher

    This is like.... what? 6th Manifold CRT? Lets just get into it. To put simply, upgrade to [Solid 1-A] or [At least 1-A, higher] if the staff and others are feeling generous. Establising Solid 1-A or 1-A, higher In one tiny subset of Manifold, there's one cosmology with 1-A descriptions...
  19. ZacharyGrossman273

    Regarding The Goddess of The Manifold (High 1-A?)

    Soooo I've been informed the goddess being one of the Downstreamers is a fan theory and that she's likely above them. And furthermore, there's some evidence as to what degree she is above them. "We can explore the manifold. We can Map to other realities. Other possibilities. You don't have to...
  20. ZacharyGrossman273

    Downstreamers hax

    Phase Space: "You know, we underestimate Dante. The physicists are the worst. They see us all running around as Virtuals in the memory of some giant computer of the future. Not to mention the science fiction writers. Garbage. Dante understood that a soul is not a Virtual, and in the Paradiso...
  21. ZacharyGrossman273

    Downstreamers first key Re-Upgrade

    Okay, so Brane cosmologies are proof of higher dimensions being superior right? Because "It seems that the whole universe, atoms and people and stars, is generated from the wriggling of a membrane floating in 11-dimensional space. One of those dimensions is collapsed down, rolled up to a tube...
  22. ZacharyGrossman273

    I Shoot Myself: Vecna VS Downstreamers

    Speed equalized, 2-C Lolmindhax: Lolhigh1bgrowth: Inconclusive:
  23. ZacharyGrossman273

    Downstreamers VS Khorne

    HAHAHAHAHA True Khorne VS fully ascended Downstreamers Blood for the blood god Now I'm taking mankind to Mars but for your kind man I ain't got room!: 4 Inconclusive
  24. Threemagi

    Downstreamers first Key : Addition of new Powers and High 4-C AP

    Those changes are to be added to Downstreamers' weaker Key : 3-A / Low 2-C one. All Quotes come from Manifold : Time New Superpowers Information Reconstructio Downstreamers can make perfect/identical reconstruction of anything. Its not merely 'virtual' either as it is shown that those virtual...
  25. Maestro46

    Alice vs Downstreamers

    Both 2-C Speed = Alice (Shin Megami Tensei): Downstreamers: Vecna:
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    • alice (shin megami tensei) manifold shin megami tensei the downstreamers
    • Replies: 2
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  26. Maestro46

    Two Haxxy 2-Cs duke it out

    The Dawn Machine vs Downstreamers 2-C both and speed equalized Dawn: Down: D!ng:
  27. Martial_Art

    Wall of Hax vs Wall of Hax: Vampire Hunter D vs Downstreamers

    3-A versions and speed equalized Vampire Hunter D: Downstreamers: Inconclusive:
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    • d (vampire hunter d) manifold the downstreamers vampire hunter d
    • Replies: 18
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  28. Threemagi

    Downstreamers : Law Manipulation addition | Adaptation & Reactive Eevolutionn granting Tier Jump to 1-A+?

    Revisions for both The Goddess of The Manifold and Downstreamers since they scale. Law Manipulation Downstreamers can control all mathematic/logic systems, changing the type/rules of entire cosmology. Adaptation & Reactive Evolution On Downstreamers page, its said that it can 'regenerate into...
  29. Threemagi

    Low 1-A for Manifold

    continuing my Low 1-A thread train.... shamelessly copied from this blog : Endless Hierarchies Above Manifold of Manifolds "A manifold of manifolds." "And that's why there is a further recursion of structure, no end to the hierarchies of life and mind, which—" Mane held up her hands...
  30. Jockey-1337

    The Downstreamers vs The Celestials + The Watchers + The Imperium

    The Downstreamers VS The Celestials The Watchers The Imperium High 1-B versions. Perfect teamwork. Other conditions are standard.
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    • celestials old ones (the dark tower) the downstreamers the watchers (the time ships)
    • Replies: 1
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  31. Threemagi

    A Magic God : High Priest vs Downstreamers [GRACE] 7-0-0

    Magic God : High Priest ( To Aru Majutsu No Index ) versus Downstreamers (H1-C Key) SBA, morals off, full cooperation, Victory by complete eradication Edit : Versus adjustment
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    • high priest the downstreamers to aru majutsu no index
    • Replies: 78
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  32. ZacharyGrossman273

    Minor Downstreamers addition

    Doesent the whole "changing the rules of the manifold" thing count as Law Manipulation?
  33. UnknownGodXXX

    Downstreamers scan

    I've seen the proof that the ultimate manifold, is a manifold of manifolds. But where was it stated or implied that the Downstreamers capable of creating infinitely-layered multiverses that contain an equally infinite number of multiverses within them. Where was it stated or implied that the...
  34. ZacharyGrossman273

    Proposal: Merge Manifold Trilogy and Xeelee Sequence into "Baxterverse"

    We also have The Watchers (The Time Ships) So in general having all of Baxter's works under one page would be useful
  35. Jockey-1337

    The Transcendence (Xeeleeverse) vs The Downstreamers (Manifoldverse)

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Transcendence_(Xeelee_Sequence) VS https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Downstreamers High 1-C versions. Standard battle assumtions Who would win and how?
  36. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    What's Tier for this cosmology? (beyond structure of space-time (higher-dimension?))

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Lucis%3Dthe%3DLumenian/Manifold_Trilogy_:_Dante%27s_Divine_Comedy_inside_the_Manifold I'm a bit confused at the Empyrea part. Its a structureless void beyond the very structure of spacetime. Size and distance has no meaning to it. You cannot perform...
  37. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Downstreamers' High 1-C/3-A Durability Downgrade and Add Reactive Eevolutionn

    Its pretty much quoteless revision thread because it just requires a bit of thinking. So, total destruction of Multiverse after the collapse of vacuum level. They are erased, or should be erased from existence. Then they regen from it. Becoming one with the multiverse, becoming God of the...
  38. Lucis=the=Lumenian

    Manifold : Confirmation of Mathematical Platonism-type Multiverse

    Previous Discussion : https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/1370650 I don't know wether these quotes have been posted or not. here is few quotes to confirm that Stephen Baxter the Author might truly intend for Manifoldverse to be Mathematical Platonism-type Multiverse. Below are quotes Manifold ...
  39. Hrdlifil

    The Downstreamers High 1-A interpretation

    Hello everyone, Í am a huge sci fi fan and as most or at least some fans I also stumbled upon a question of which sci-fi alien race is the most advanced. At first as a huge stargate fan I thought that the answer is Ancients or Lanteans if you will, but then Stargate atlantis really nerfed their...
  40. Jockey-1337

    Molecule Man vs Downstreamers

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Molecule_Ma vs https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Downstreamers Standard Conditions High 1-B versions Let's start
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