Threemagi
He/Him- 486
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Those changes are to be added to Downstreamers' weaker Key : 3-A / Low 2-C one.
All Quotes come from Manifold : Time
New Superpowers
Information Reconstructio
Downstreamers can make perfect/identical reconstruction of anything. Its not merely 'virtual' either as it is shown that those virtual reconstructions can teleport into real world and interact with real world.
"I don't think I'm me," he said aloud. "I think I'm some kind of reconstruction in a giant computer in the far downstream. Tell me I'm wrong." He scanned down the notice.
...
If it was even possible. If they, whoever had reconstructed him, permitted it. He wondered if they would let him hurt himself. What if he busted one of the bottles and started to saw at a wrist? Or—
...
What I mean," Malenfant said, "is that you're a simulacrum of Michael. A program running inside some hideous end-of-time God-type computer."
The boy looked puzzled.
Malenfant leaned out into the corridor. He couldn't see farther than a few feet in either direction, though he couldn't figure out why. The same purple carpet lay on the floor. There were no other doors. "What if I run off down this corridor?"
I don't know.
"Will they have to create more of this virtual stuff? Will the room disappear?"
Try it if you want.
... We're programs running on a huge computer at the end of time. Right?" No. Yes. This is, umm, a substrate.
"A substrate?" Malenfant snapped his fingers. "I knew it. The lossless processors we saw in the far downstream. The dreaming computer."
Michael frowned. But you are Malenfant.
"The same person I was before?"
Of course. Which other?
"But I can't be. That Malenfant blew himself to bits. I can believe the portal stored information about me, sent it to the far future, and here I am reconstructed in this—" He waved a hand. "—this virtual reality Bates motel. But I'm not me."
Michael looked puzzled. You are you. I am me. Information is the most important thing. There was a German called Leibniz.
"The philosopher? Never heard of him."
Entities that cannot be distinguished by any means whatsoever, even in principle, at any time in the past, present, and future have to be considered identical. This is called the Identity of Indiscernibles. It really is you, Malenfant, just as it feels.
... "Who did this, Michael? Who brought me back?"
The downstreamers. The dreamers. The boy frowned again. The people in the lossless-processing substrate—
Here we see Downstreamers can make perfect reconstruction of a dead person, Reid Malenfant.
Anything can be reconstructed given enough informatio
"What am I supposed to do?"
Whatever you want. You must only, umm, exist. The information that defines you was stored by the portal, and therefore is part of the substrate.
Malenfant frowned. "You're telling me I don't have some kind of mission? That the decadent beings of the far future don't need my primitive instincts to save them?"
I don't understand—
"Never mind."
Downstreamers can reconstruct anything given they have enough information.
In this case, their Portals act as some kind of information scanning device.
And they can spawn those Portals at will.
"If you can do all this, bring Emma back."
I can't. I mean, they can't. They don't have the information.
"Emma passed through the portals. There must be records."
But she would only be, umm, a simulation. The identity principle only works if the information is perfect. And because of the explosion as you went through—
Malenfant held his head in his hands. "Now," he said, "now it hits me. If I'd known I could have saved her … Emma, I'm sorry. Somehow I managed to kill you twice over …"
Even if the information Downstreamers' Portal gathered is not perfect, they can still make a copy or simulation of a person.
Power Bestowal
Michael held his hand. Malenfant, the universe has many values. There is no one single path. Do you understand? The future can't be determined. Nor can the past. Therefore we are free to choose …
Malenfant spoke slowly, carefully. "What you're telling me is that I could change the past. I could spare Emma." The thought electrified him. "But I'm no downstreamer."
You are now, said the Michael thing.
Just by being reconstructed from death by Downstreamers, Malenfant now has ability same as them, ability to rewrite history or timelines to his liking.
New AP Key : (High) 4-C by using Quark Matter Nuggets
Downstreamers can reach into deep past to alter trajectory of the already existing quark matter leftover from the big bang to strike their enemies in the present at precise coordinates and time.
Quark nugget ignores durability to some extent
It somewhat ignores durability because of how dense it is
"The destruction of neutrons from the atmosphere. Step a little closer." She stepped right up to the protective barrier, nervous. This time she felt a ripple in the flesh of her hand, a gentle tugging. When she moved her hand from side to side she felt the wash of some invisible force.
"What's that?"
"Gravity," Dan said.
"Gravity? From the anomaly?"
"At its surface the gravity pulls about thirty thousand G. But it drops off quickly, down to less than one percent of G a yard away. The anomaly masses about a million tons. Which, if it were water, would be enough to fill a fair-sized swimming pool."
"All crammed into that little thing?"
"Yup. It's around a sixteenth of an inch across. Right now these guys, the physicists here, don't have a good handle on its shape. It's presumably spherical, but it may be oscillating."
"So it's pretty dense."
"A little denser than an atomic nucleus, in fact. So dense it shouldn't even notice normal matter. An anomaly like that should pass right through the Earth like a bullet through a cloud ."
Further explanation on Quark matter
"It seems to be a nugget of quark matter. The essential difference from ordinary matter is that the individual quark wave functions are delocalized, spread through a macroscopic volume..."
It took some time for Maura, cross-examining him, to interpret all this.
In ordinary matter, it seemed, atomic nuclei were made of protons and neutrons, which in turn were made of more fundamental particles called quarks. But the size of a nucleus was limited because protons' positive charges tended to blow overlarge nuclei to bits. But quarks came in a number of varieties. The ones inside protons and neutrons were called, obscurely, "up" and "down" quarks. If you added another type of quark to the mix, called "strange" quarks — a geeky term that didn't surprise Maura in the least —then you could keep growing your positive-charge "nuclei" without limit, because the strange quarks would hold them together, And that was a quark nugget: nothing more than a giant atomic nucleus.
"We've actually had evidence of quark nuggets before — probably much smaller, fast-moving ones — that strike the top of the atmosphere and cause exotic cosmic-ray events called Cen-tauro events."
"So where do the nuggets come from?" Dan rubbed his nose.
"To make a nugget you need regions of very high density and pressure, because you have to break down the stable configuration of matter. You need a soup of quarks, out of which the nuggets can crystallize. We only know of two places, in nature, where this happens. One place is — was — the Big Bang. And the nuggets baked back there have wandered the universe ever since. The theory predicts we should find Bang nuggets from maybe a thousand tons to a billion. So our nugget is right at the middle of the range."
Starbusting AP
"Where else?"
"In the interior of a neutron star. A collapsed supernova remnant: very small, very hot, very dense, the mass of the sun crammed into the volume of a city block. And when the pressure gets high enough quark matter can form. All you need is a tiny part of the core of the star to flip over, and you get a quark matter runaway. The whole star is eaten up. It's spectacular. The star might lose twenty percent of its radius in a few seconds. Maybe half the star's mass — and we're talking about masses comparable to the sun, remember — half of it is turned to energy, and blown out in a gale of neutrinos and gamma rays. "
Quark matter runaway. She didn't like the sound of that.
"Which origin are we favoring here?"
"I'd back the Big Bang. I told you our nugget is right in the middle of the mass range the cosmogenic-origin theory predicts. On the other hand we don't have a real good mass spectrum for neutron-star nuggets, so that isn't ruled out either. But then there's the slow velocity of our nugget. The nuggets should squirt out of neutron stars at relativistic velocities. That is, a good fraction of light speed. But the Big Bang nuggets have been slowed by the expansion of the universe..."
Slowed by the expansion of the universe. Good God, she thought. What a phrase. This nugget is a cosmological relic, and it's right here in this plastic schoolroom. And brought here, perhaps, by children. He spread his hands.
"Dan, you said something about a drop of this stuff consuming an entire star. Is there any possibility that this little thing—"
"Could eat the Earth?"
Conclusion
Additions of Powers :
Information Analysis through their Portals
Creation or Information Manipulation as they create things capable of interacting with physical world with pure information
Possibly Power Mimicry from combination of Information Analysis and Creation/Information Manipulation, as they can make a copy of a person.
Power Bestowal . Kinda straightforward.
Addition of High 4-C AP Key as they can easily destroy stars using quark matter nuggets
All Quotes come from Manifold : Time
New Superpowers
Information Reconstructio
Downstreamers can make perfect/identical reconstruction of anything. Its not merely 'virtual' either as it is shown that those virtual reconstructions can teleport into real world and interact with real world.
"I don't think I'm me," he said aloud. "I think I'm some kind of reconstruction in a giant computer in the far downstream. Tell me I'm wrong." He scanned down the notice.
...
If it was even possible. If they, whoever had reconstructed him, permitted it. He wondered if they would let him hurt himself. What if he busted one of the bottles and started to saw at a wrist? Or—
...
What I mean," Malenfant said, "is that you're a simulacrum of Michael. A program running inside some hideous end-of-time God-type computer."
The boy looked puzzled.
Malenfant leaned out into the corridor. He couldn't see farther than a few feet in either direction, though he couldn't figure out why. The same purple carpet lay on the floor. There were no other doors. "What if I run off down this corridor?"
I don't know.
"Will they have to create more of this virtual stuff? Will the room disappear?"
Try it if you want.
... We're programs running on a huge computer at the end of time. Right?" No. Yes. This is, umm, a substrate.
"A substrate?" Malenfant snapped his fingers. "I knew it. The lossless processors we saw in the far downstream. The dreaming computer."
Michael frowned. But you are Malenfant.
"The same person I was before?"
Of course. Which other?
"But I can't be. That Malenfant blew himself to bits. I can believe the portal stored information about me, sent it to the far future, and here I am reconstructed in this—" He waved a hand. "—this virtual reality Bates motel. But I'm not me."
Michael looked puzzled. You are you. I am me. Information is the most important thing. There was a German called Leibniz.
"The philosopher? Never heard of him."
Entities that cannot be distinguished by any means whatsoever, even in principle, at any time in the past, present, and future have to be considered identical. This is called the Identity of Indiscernibles. It really is you, Malenfant, just as it feels.
... "Who did this, Michael? Who brought me back?"
The downstreamers. The dreamers. The boy frowned again. The people in the lossless-processing substrate—
Here we see Downstreamers can make perfect reconstruction of a dead person, Reid Malenfant.
Anything can be reconstructed given enough informatio
"What am I supposed to do?"
Whatever you want. You must only, umm, exist. The information that defines you was stored by the portal, and therefore is part of the substrate.
Malenfant frowned. "You're telling me I don't have some kind of mission? That the decadent beings of the far future don't need my primitive instincts to save them?"
I don't understand—
"Never mind."
Downstreamers can reconstruct anything given they have enough information.
In this case, their Portals act as some kind of information scanning device.
And they can spawn those Portals at will.
"If you can do all this, bring Emma back."
I can't. I mean, they can't. They don't have the information.
"Emma passed through the portals. There must be records."
But she would only be, umm, a simulation. The identity principle only works if the information is perfect. And because of the explosion as you went through—
Malenfant held his head in his hands. "Now," he said, "now it hits me. If I'd known I could have saved her … Emma, I'm sorry. Somehow I managed to kill you twice over …"
Even if the information Downstreamers' Portal gathered is not perfect, they can still make a copy or simulation of a person.
Power Bestowal
Michael held his hand. Malenfant, the universe has many values. There is no one single path. Do you understand? The future can't be determined. Nor can the past. Therefore we are free to choose …
Malenfant spoke slowly, carefully. "What you're telling me is that I could change the past. I could spare Emma." The thought electrified him. "But I'm no downstreamer."
You are now, said the Michael thing.
Just by being reconstructed from death by Downstreamers, Malenfant now has ability same as them, ability to rewrite history or timelines to his liking.
New AP Key : (High) 4-C by using Quark Matter Nuggets
Downstreamers can reach into deep past to alter trajectory of the already existing quark matter leftover from the big bang to strike their enemies in the present at precise coordinates and time.
Quark nugget ignores durability to some extent
It somewhat ignores durability because of how dense it is
"The destruction of neutrons from the atmosphere. Step a little closer." She stepped right up to the protective barrier, nervous. This time she felt a ripple in the flesh of her hand, a gentle tugging. When she moved her hand from side to side she felt the wash of some invisible force.
"What's that?"
"Gravity," Dan said.
"Gravity? From the anomaly?"
"At its surface the gravity pulls about thirty thousand G. But it drops off quickly, down to less than one percent of G a yard away. The anomaly masses about a million tons. Which, if it were water, would be enough to fill a fair-sized swimming pool."
"All crammed into that little thing?"
"Yup. It's around a sixteenth of an inch across. Right now these guys, the physicists here, don't have a good handle on its shape. It's presumably spherical, but it may be oscillating."
"So it's pretty dense."
"A little denser than an atomic nucleus, in fact. So dense it shouldn't even notice normal matter. An anomaly like that should pass right through the Earth like a bullet through a cloud ."
Further explanation on Quark matter
"It seems to be a nugget of quark matter. The essential difference from ordinary matter is that the individual quark wave functions are delocalized, spread through a macroscopic volume..."
It took some time for Maura, cross-examining him, to interpret all this.
In ordinary matter, it seemed, atomic nuclei were made of protons and neutrons, which in turn were made of more fundamental particles called quarks. But the size of a nucleus was limited because protons' positive charges tended to blow overlarge nuclei to bits. But quarks came in a number of varieties. The ones inside protons and neutrons were called, obscurely, "up" and "down" quarks. If you added another type of quark to the mix, called "strange" quarks — a geeky term that didn't surprise Maura in the least —then you could keep growing your positive-charge "nuclei" without limit, because the strange quarks would hold them together, And that was a quark nugget: nothing more than a giant atomic nucleus.
"We've actually had evidence of quark nuggets before — probably much smaller, fast-moving ones — that strike the top of the atmosphere and cause exotic cosmic-ray events called Cen-tauro events."
"So where do the nuggets come from?" Dan rubbed his nose.
"To make a nugget you need regions of very high density and pressure, because you have to break down the stable configuration of matter. You need a soup of quarks, out of which the nuggets can crystallize. We only know of two places, in nature, where this happens. One place is — was — the Big Bang. And the nuggets baked back there have wandered the universe ever since. The theory predicts we should find Bang nuggets from maybe a thousand tons to a billion. So our nugget is right at the middle of the range."
Starbusting AP
"Where else?"
"In the interior of a neutron star. A collapsed supernova remnant: very small, very hot, very dense, the mass of the sun crammed into the volume of a city block. And when the pressure gets high enough quark matter can form. All you need is a tiny part of the core of the star to flip over, and you get a quark matter runaway. The whole star is eaten up. It's spectacular. The star might lose twenty percent of its radius in a few seconds. Maybe half the star's mass — and we're talking about masses comparable to the sun, remember — half of it is turned to energy, and blown out in a gale of neutrinos and gamma rays. "
Quark matter runaway. She didn't like the sound of that.
"Which origin are we favoring here?"
"I'd back the Big Bang. I told you our nugget is right in the middle of the mass range the cosmogenic-origin theory predicts. On the other hand we don't have a real good mass spectrum for neutron-star nuggets, so that isn't ruled out either. But then there's the slow velocity of our nugget. The nuggets should squirt out of neutron stars at relativistic velocities. That is, a good fraction of light speed. But the Big Bang nuggets have been slowed by the expansion of the universe..."
Slowed by the expansion of the universe. Good God, she thought. What a phrase. This nugget is a cosmological relic, and it's right here in this plastic schoolroom. And brought here, perhaps, by children. He spread his hands.
"Dan, you said something about a drop of this stuff consuming an entire star. Is there any possibility that this little thing—"
"Could eat the Earth?"
Conclusion
Additions of Powers :
Information Analysis through their Portals
Creation or Information Manipulation as they create things capable of interacting with physical world with pure information
Possibly Power Mimicry from combination of Information Analysis and Creation/Information Manipulation, as they can make a copy of a person.
Power Bestowal . Kinda straightforward.
Addition of High 4-C AP Key as they can easily destroy stars using quark matter nuggets
