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Edit/Addition: Jean Grey in her Phoenix keys and by extension the Phoenix Force itself should have Basic Magic (and thus also resistance to it), as Doctor Strange describes the Dark Phoenix's power as mystical in nature after sensing it.
Hi all. Glad to see you all here after the previous thread.
As the title suggests, this is a continuation of my ongoing revisions of Marvel's Cosmics, this time tackling the tiering of the Omniversal Abstracts. After this one, I plan to make a Part 2.5, which will deal with fixing... everything...
I myself find interesting how Ewing and Marquez are finishing a story showing what lies in The Outside.
In other words, we're finally seeing outerversal layers in Marvel, with the Far Shore being base and Oblivion/the land couldn't be shouldn't being three layers beyond that. And it seems the...
Should be simple lmao
Those Who Shit Above In Shadow are most probably Beyonders
God of Stories Loki hypothesised that they may be “beyonders" (Loki: Agent of Asgard #17)
TWSAIS speech to Odin heavily mirrored the beyonders speech
"Slay your enemies and all you desire shall be yours"...
It was implied that Beyonder was nothing more than a "child-unit" of the beyonder's race.
But the original cover art of the original Beyonder was toying with them making everyone believe he was inferior.
But it turns out the current Beyonder is the source of the power for God Emperor Doom and...
Not sure what this means
But the current wiki hierarchy only uses higher dimensions when they represent uncountable infinite higher lower dimension or higher layers where the lower dimensions/layers are nothing more than fictional.
This is not even related or implied in any way
So I wonder why...
beyonder (pre-retcon)
eternity
galactus (marvel comics)
marvel comics
molecule man
oblivion
thanos (marvel comics)
thebeyondersthe first firmament
the living tribunal
But it's not really Beyonder.
Vegito (Z) vs. a Beyonder Drone. Both 4-B and speed is equalized.
I am not well oriented in what a Beyonder Drone can really do, so I am sorry if this is a stomp.
Why isn't he Unknown/and or Likely Outervesal level due to him being a Sentient Cosmic Cubes to as races known as The Beyonders, The Beyonder is once again a creation of The Beyonders as a Child-Unit?
Hi everyone! I've made this thread to add justifications and scans on the Beyonders's abilities it could be interesting for their profiles. And make some revisions for some of their abilities. I will beggin with what the Beyonders themselves have shown and i will continue with what the wielders...
It's not really relevant I suppose but if Molecule Man completely absorbed the powers of The Beyonders shouldn't he scale to their durability and abilities? Basically I propose that his third key should to include the powers of The Beyonders and his durability should be "High Hyperversal level"...
Should we consider God Emperor Doom being matched by Black Panther with the Infinity Gauntlet as a good feat instead of an outlier?
The power of the Infinity Gauntlet varies on the will/imagination of the users.
For those who said "Its an outlier since they killed the Living Tribunal who is...
The curent tier of the Beyonders is 1-A mostly because three Beyonders killed the Living Tribunal who is 1-A but i don't think the Living Tribunal was that powerful in the Hickman's run. Plus, within this storyline, the Living Tribunal was all of the multiverse (infinite dimensional structure)...
In this sca, Hank Pym explain that the Beyonders are universally adaptive. There's also this sca. Is this Reactive Evolution? If yes, the Beyonders should have this on their profile.
The same fight taking place across all realities in the same time The Beyonders are able to be to multiple place at once. Is this Omnipresence? And the Cosmic Cubes allows their users to be omnipresent and their powers and properties derives from the Beyonders.
The true Beyonders exist in the Neutral Zone or they are outside the true Eternity? Because some people believe that the Ivory Kings exist in the Neutral Zone. There are statement saying that they are universally adaptive and harmonically transitional and they are not constrained by space or...
I have seen people claiming that during the fight with Living Tribunal there was a group of 3 Beyonders for each universe (like 1 Beyonder for each universe to kill the celestials) and that they killed all the M-body of LT across the multiverse since the fight took place in every reality at the...
Hello, I wondered if the beyonders drones should be 4-A or low 2-C instead of 4-B? As a single beyonders drone easily overpowered multiple powerful 4-B characters such as Thor, Hyperion and starbrand and in addition, none of their attacks was really effective against the beyonders until the...
Maybe there should be more justifications for Beyonders Attack Potency. As for example: With their powers, Doctor Doom had controlled the will of Multi Eternity and easily defeated Cyclop with the power of the Pheonix Force which will eventually become High 1-B. And they killed the Abstracts...
I wanted to know if it would be necessary to add a Key named "Individual Beyonders" because combined, they are High 1-B because they killed the Living Tribunal but individually, a diferent Beyonders fought and destroy the Celestials Host in each universes So, I think they could be 2-C individually.
I am uncertain. Based on the scan in question [ Ultimates ] , these guys are the Beyonders. The problem isn't that, it is what they say here . This implies the Beyonders are the embodiments of the Outside. This is direct forshadowing of what occurs in Secret Wars. Also, if that is the case, it...
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Old_Ones_(The_Dark_Tower)
vs
Round 1: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Beyonders
Round 2: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Beyonder_(Pre-Retcon)
Conditions:
- No prep
- No morals
- Random encounter
- Location: Dark Tower multiverse
Who will win...
The Beyonders would stands a chance against TFF? since it was revealed that TFF is the very first universe and he is basically a much larger version than Eternity.
Why the Beyonders are ranked 4C to 4B? as 2nd tier? in Secret Wars # 5, it was mentioned that the Beyonders have created whole universes. Also one of them managed to kill all the celestial without visible effort. Would it not be more reasonable to rank them to Low-2C and 3A instead of 4B?