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the beyonders

  1. VeryGoofyToddler2

    Marvel Comics Cosmology (World Hierarchy) Revision

    This was a long time coming and because of that I decided to move quickly with the changes. So, previously, established in this thread: https://vsbattles.com/threads/j-m-dematteis-marvel-cosmology-split.169120/ So the main jist is to remove scans pertaining to the author “J.M. DeMatteis” and...
    • VeryGoofyToddler2
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    • beyonder (pre-retcon) eternity infinity (marvel comics) marvel comics cosmology (world hierarchy) mistress death phoenix force the beyonders the first firmament the one above all the ultimate ultimates
    • Replies: 104
    • Forum: Content Revision
  2. Eseseso

    Leftovers from my Marvel Magic revisions

    Edit/Addition: Jean Grey in her Phoenix keys and by extension the Phoenix Force itself should have Basic Magic (and thus also resistance to it), as Doctor Strange describes the Dark Phoenix's power as mystical in nature after sensing it.
    • Eseseso
    • Thread
    • doctor doom magic magic (marvel comics) marvel comics the beyonders the infinity stones
    • Replies: 67
    • Forum: Content Revision
  3. Ultima_Reality

    Revising Marvel's Abstracts (Part 2 of ????)

    Hi all. Glad to see you all here after the previous thread. As the title suggests, this is a continuation of my ongoing revisions of Marvel's Cosmics, this time tackling the tiering of the Omniversal Abstracts. After this one, I plan to make a Part 2.5, which will deal with fixing... everything...
  4. DanielIH15

    What do you think about Defenders Beyond? (Marvel comics)

    I myself find interesting how Ewing and Marquez are finishing a story showing what lies in The Outside. In other words, we're finally seeing outerversal layers in Marvel, with the Far Shore being base and Oblivion/the land couldn't be shouldn't being three layers beyond that. And it seems the...
    • DanielIH15
    • Thread
    • beyonder (post-retcon) comics defenders eternity marvel comics oblivion phoenix force the beyonders the one above all
    • Replies: 25
    • Forum: General Discussion
  5. NHTkenshin2

    Marvel Comics: Rune King Thor upgrade

    Should be simple lmao Those Who Shit Above In Shadow are most probably Beyonders God of Stories Loki hypothesised that they may be “beyonders" (Loki: Agent of Asgard #17) TWSAIS speech to Odin heavily mirrored the beyonders speech "Slay your enemies and all you desire shall be yours"...
  6. SageF

    Current Beyonder Tier upgrade CRT and coverup

    It was implied that Beyonder was nothing more than a "child-unit" of the beyonder's race. But the original cover art of the original Beyonder was toying with them making everyone believe he was inferior. But it turns out the current Beyonder is the source of the power for God Emperor Doom and...
    • SageF
    • Thread
    • 1-a beyonder (post-retcon) content revision eternity marvel comics oblivion the beyonders
    • Replies: 40
    • Forum: Content Revision
  7. Rabbit2002

    Question about Low-1A/1As's Marvel

    Not sure what this means But the current wiki hierarchy only uses higher dimensions when they represent uncountable infinite higher lower dimension or higher layers where the lower dimensions/layers are nothing more than fictional. This is not even related or implied in any way So I wonder why...
    • Rabbit2002
    • Thread
    • beyonder (pre-retcon) eternity galactus (marvel comics) marvel comics molecule man oblivion thanos (marvel comics) the beyonders the first firmament the living tribunal
    • Replies: 12
    • Forum: Questions and Answers
  8. Galactic_Astronaut

    Lucifer Morningstar vs Beyonders

    All are at 1-A. Morals are off. Lucifer: The Beyonders: Inconclusive: Who wins?
  9. Omegas03

    Our favourite Saiyan fights the Beyonder.

    But it's not really Beyonder. Vegito (Z) vs. a Beyonder Drone. Both 4-B and speed is equalized. I am not well oriented in what a Beyonder Drone can really do, so I am sorry if this is a stomp.
    • Omegas03
    • Thread
    • dragon ball marvel comics the beyonders vegito
    • Replies: 4
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  10. SageF

    Child-Unit Beyonder Big Question?/ Highly Confusion?)

    Why isn't he Unknown/and or Likely Outervesal level due to him being a Sentient Cosmic Cubes to as races known as The Beyonders, The Beyonder is once again a creation of The Beyonders as a Child-Unit?
    • SageF
    • Thread
    • beyonder (post-retcon) marvel comics molecule man the beyonders
    • Replies: 35
    • Forum: Content Revision
  11. Elizio33

    Anti-Monitor vs The Beyonders

    Sixth Dimension Anti-Monitor & The Beyonders Collectively are used (1-A) Who win? Anti-Monitor The Beyonders
    • Elizio33
    • Thread
    • anti-monitor dc comics marvel comics the beyonders
    • Replies: 2
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  12. AB1124

    The Beyonders VS Pre Retcon Beyonder

    The Beyonders (the species) VS Pre Retcon Beyonder Who takes it?
    • AB1124
    • Thread
    • beyonder (pre-retcon) marvel comics the beyonders
    • Replies: 5
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  13. Elizio33

    Beyonders' Hax justifications and scans

    Hi everyone! I've made this thread to add justifications and scans on the Beyonders's abilities it could be interesting for their profiles. And make some revisions for some of their abilities. I will beggin with what the Beyonders themselves have shown and i will continue with what the wielders...
  14. The_Unknown_Warrior1

    Molecule Man's durability and powers (Post Beyonders Retcon) Also God Emperor Doom

    It's not really relevant I suppose but if Molecule Man completely absorbed the powers of The Beyonders shouldn't he scale to their durability and abilities? Basically I propose that his third key should to include the powers of The Beyonders and his durability should be "High Hyperversal level"...
  15. Elizio33

    The Beyonders vs The Monitors

    4-B Speed equalized Who win?
    • Elizio33
    • Thread
    • dc comics marvel comics the beyonders the monitors (dc comics)
    • Replies: 11
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  16. Elizio33

    Regarding God Doom against IG Black Panther

    Should we consider God Emperor Doom being matched by Black Panther with the Infinity Gauntlet as a good feat instead of an outlier? The power of the Infinity Gauntlet varies on the will/imagination of the users. For those who said "Its an outlier since they killed the Living Tribunal who is...
  17. Elizio33

    The Beyonders

    The curent tier of the Beyonders is 1-A mostly because three Beyonders killed the Living Tribunal who is 1-A but i don't think the Living Tribunal was that powerful in the Hickman's run. Plus, within this storyline, the Living Tribunal was all of the multiverse (infinite dimensional structure)...
  18. Black_monitor

    The Population of the Beyonders

    Before the Beyonders powers were absorbed by Molecule Man, does anyone know the population of the Beyonders? Did they number to infinity?
  19. Elizio33

    Is this Reactive Eevolutionn

    In this sca, Hank Pym explain that the Beyonders are universally adaptive. There's also this sca. Is this Reactive Evolution? If yes, the Beyonders should have this on their profile.
  20. Elizio33

    The Thought Robot vs the Ivory Kings

    Who win?
    • Elizio33
    • Thread
    • dc comics marvel comics the beyonders the thought robot
    • Replies: 1
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  21. Not_Icarus

    Beyonder (Pre-Retcon) VS The Beyonders

    -Both at 1-A -I wonder which Beyonders are stronger now since the The Beyonders recently got upgraded into 1-A.
  22. Elizio33

    Beyonders abilities

    The same fight taking place across all realities in the same time The Beyonders are able to be to multiple place at once. Is this Omnipresence? And the Cosmic Cubes allows their users to be omnipresent and their powers and properties derives from the Beyonders.
  23. Elizio33

    The Beyonders exist in the Neutral Zone of they are outside of the true Eternity?

    The true Beyonders exist in the Neutral Zone or they are outside the true Eternity? Because some people believe that the Ivory Kings exist in the Neutral Zone. There are statement saying that they are universally adaptive and harmonically transitional and they are not constrained by space or...
  24. Casualnickname

    Question about Beyonders power.

    I have seen people claiming that during the fight with Living Tribunal there was a group of 3 Beyonders for each universe (like 1 Beyonder for each universe to kill the celestials) and that they killed all the M-body of LT across the multiverse since the fight took place in every reality at the...
  25. Nether_nine

    Where was it stated that the Beyonders come from outside the Multiverse?

    ?
  26. Elizio33

    Beyonders Drones

    Hello, I wondered if the beyonders drones should be 4-A or low 2-C instead of 4-B? As a single beyonders drone easily overpowered multiple powerful 4-B characters such as Thor, Hyperion and starbrand and in addition, none of their attacks was really effective against the beyonders until the...
  27. Elizio33

    Beyonders Attack Potency Justification

    Maybe there should be more justifications for Beyonders Attack Potency. As for example: With their powers, Doctor Doom had controlled the will of Multi Eternity and easily defeated Cyclop with the power of the Pheonix Force which will eventually become High 1-B. And they killed the Abstracts...
    • Elizio33
    • Thread
    • marvel comics molecule man the beyonders the living tribunal
    • Replies: 176
    • Forum: Content Revision
  28. Elizio33

    About the Beyonders

    I wanted to know if it would be necessary to add a Key named "Individual Beyonders" because combined, they are High 1-B because they killed the Living Tribunal but individually, a diferent Beyonders fought and destroy the Celestials Host in each universes So, I think they could be 2-C individually.
  29. Elizio33

    The Beyonders vs The Ultimate Ultimates

    The Ivory Kings can destroy the 7 iterations of the cosmos?
    • Elizio33
    • Thread
    • marvel comics the beyonders the ultimate ultimates
    • Replies: 0
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  30. Elizio33

    The Beyonders vs Dream of Endless

    Who win?
  31. Elizio33

    Thanos vs The Beyonders

    Both are 4-B who wins?
  32. Elizio33

    Mandrakk vs The Beyonders

    Who win?
  33. The_2nd_Existential_Seed

    Who are these guys - Marvel

    I am uncertain. Based on the scan in question [ Ultimates ] , these guys are the Beyonders. The problem isn't that, it is what they say here . This implies the Beyonders are the embodiments of the Outside. This is direct forshadowing of what occurs in Secret Wars. Also, if that is the case, it...
  34. OneAboveAll42

    Is Molecule Man(Beyonders) a reality warper?

    Is he just manipulating atoms or is he manipulating quantam strings or is he manipulating quantam foam or he is straight up warping reality and logic?
  35. OneAboveAll42

    Molecule Man(Beyonders) vs The Never Queen

    Both at full power
  36. OneAboveAll42

    Molecule Man(Beyonders) Speed Upgrade

    Molecule Man speed should be immeasurable since he absorbed all beyonders' powers and their speed was immeasurable.
  37. Jockey-1337

    Old Ones the Imperium (Dark Tower) vs Beyonders (Marvel)

    https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Old_Ones_(The_Dark_Tower) vs Round 1: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Beyonders Round 2: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Beyonder_(Pre-Retcon) Conditions: - No prep - No morals - Random encounter - Location: Dark Tower multiverse Who will win...
    • Jockey-1337
    • Thread
    • beyonder (pre-retcon) old ones (the dark tower) the beyonders the dark tower
    • Replies: 18
    • Forum: Versus Threads
  38. Dlaek66669

    the beyonders vs the Downstreamers

    both use 1B rating Both team have 10 Years of prep bloodlusted
  39. Elizio33

    The First Firmament vs The Beyonders

    The Beyonders would stands a chance against TFF? since it was revealed that TFF is the very first universe and he is basically a much larger version than Eternity.
  40. Elizio33

    Question about the Beyonders 2nd tier

    Why the Beyonders are ranked 4C to 4B? as 2nd tier? in Secret Wars # 5, it was mentioned that the Beyonders have created whole universes. Also one of them managed to kill all the celestial without visible effort. Would it not be more reasonable to rank them to Low-2C and 3A instead of 4B?
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