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With the release of Echo we now have fairly concrete scaling that upgrades the Netflix side of the MCU to 9-A and MHS+. Along with that we have full confirmation that those shows, starting with Daredevil season 1 and ending with Punisher season 2, are all canon and a part of the Sacred Timeline...
In this thread, I would like to discuss 2 points that seem to me extremely controversial:
1) The speed of the characters;
2) Mid tiers strength level;
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1) Not so long ago there was a revision of the speed ratings in Marvel Comics. Half of the characters were downgraded from...
Surprised no one has done this
Rules:
-Speed=
-Both in 9-B
-Fight in: An abandoned warehouse
-Death match
-Anything above 9-B is restricted
Oliver:
Clint:
Kingpin sends his best mercenary to take care of the new Avenger turned vigilante on the block.
Like the Kingpin matchup in Round 1; Hawkeye has his standard arrows vs. Bullseye (Bullseye has prior knowledge of Hawkeye's capabilities), Round 2; Ronin vs. Bullseye
(Speed Equalised, Fight takes...
Simply put as @Propellus pointed out, looking at this calc, given that the results are 13.90 m/s, that's actually Superhuman, not Peak Human upgrading Hawkeye's running speed
Also got a new Moon knight calc thanks to @Aguywhodoesthings that would upgrade him to Wall+
rip Wall+ it's now wall...
The fight we were robbed of in the Hawkeye finale.
Round 1 Hawkeye with his standard arrows vs Kingpin (Kingpin has prior knowledge of the capabilities of Hawkeye's arrows), Round 2 Ronin outfit vs Kingpin
Speed equalized, standard battle assumptions
Hawkeye scales to 4.09 megajoules while...
About time we've made a CRT for the Hawkeye TV show.
So firstly people made a some calculations for different Hawkeye arrows, the highest one being the helicarrier one in the first Avengers movie.
Kingpin also has a 9-A feat now
There seem to be conflicting reports on whether Kingpin is...
Since we apparentky allow comics for scaling decided to do an revision based on Black widow Prelude comic stuff
Shot gun for opțional Equipament
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/849765645263437834/900695403480088586/RCO008_1491205766.jpg
Sound hax ig...
Odin
-transmuatation
Make his wife freya light wuth an just an beat in the ground with his scepter 2:27
Hawkeye and widow possible Small building upgrade
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/Destruction_of_the_Avengers_HQ
The Small building part applies to...
Odin
-transmuatation
Make his wife freya light wuth an just an beat in the ground with his scepter 2:27
Hawkeye and widow possible Small building upgrade
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Spinosaurus75DinosaurFan/Destruction_of_the_Avengers_HQ
The Small building part applies to...
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When I first saw the John Wick page, I noticed he defeated Black Widow. So let's have Hawkeye seek revenge.
Clint has his sword, bow, and 28 trick arrows (two of each type stated in his profile). John has a couple of glocks, knives and 2 grenades.
Battle takes place into S.H.I.E.L.D.'s...
Location: New York Alleyway. Distance: 3 meters.
SoM: In Character.
Speed Equal
EoS Batman / Endgame Hawkeye
Who takes it?
Hawkeye: Gemmysaur, The Wright Way, XSOULOFCINDERX.
Batma:
I saw this comment. He said it was too good to refuse and so I decided to do it before anyone else can beat me to it.
Both are 9-B to make the fight more balanced.
Who wins?
Arrow Boi: 7 (Gemmysaur, Kriskirby, AnonymousBlank, Bob8999, I'm Blue daba dee daba die, CBslayeR, Modernmyrmido)
Ogre...
I thought atleast this would be good.
Both have everything except Hawkeye doesn't have his 'higher' weaponry
Speed is =
Underrated Avenger: 0
World's Most Famous Spy: 0
Incon: 0
I brought this up in another thread. The speed of MCU peak humans need to be revised.
1. The calc that gives Hawkeye subsonic combat speed actually gives Hawkeye Supersonic perception/reaction speed, cuz it's 0.0098 seconds. That's not combat speed though, do not mistake perception speed and...
So Black Widow and Hawkeye were upgraded to possibly 9A by TheOwnMagic without creating a revision post, using this fight (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lcBJ2Bdxi4&feature=youtu.be&t=3m2s) as justification. I'd like to review this b/c I think the possibly 9A for Widow and Hakweye muddies up...
Underused characters!!!! Jack Baker vs Hawkeye (Marvel Cinematic Universe)
Human Jack starts with an axe and Hawkeye has access to all his arrows but there is a limit to how many he can carry (no more infinite supply like in the avengers).
SBA. Speed is not equalized (witchcraft!!!)
Jack can...
So currently, on the page, Hawkeye has Subsonic reactions, as calced here.
However, on the same blog, Hawkeye is calced to have barely Supersonic reactions. Possible upgrade. His combat speed should remain at Subsonic though.
People that scale to Hawkeye: Black Widow, Falcon
Hawkeye's current Attack Potency: Athlete Level
Physical AP upgrade
He damaged an Ultron Sentry with his bare hands which either an Ultron Sentry downgrade or a Hawkeye upgrade:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_yhpQgeuYM
03:00
Successful
Hawkeye's AP is already upgraded.
Hawkeye's...
It says her durability is Wall Level, but didn't she survive a slap by the Hulk? Or maybe that's an outlier. Also, shouldn't she be comparable with Hawkeye, as I said in another discussion, Athletic Human Lifting Strength?
S.H.I.E.L.D. is tipped off that Deadshot is being paid to assassinate Nick Fury, and Hawkeye is dispatched to intercept him.
Both know about each others' abilities and have 2 weeks prep time. Fight takes place in Washington D.C. at night near the S.H.I.E.L.D. Triskelion. Starting distance 500...