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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Fallacies#28._False_dichotomy
What
Lightning doesn't move at relativistic speed
We accept Nami as having to react to that
This is just hilariously wrong levels of coping on bad arguments
Remove this
Please find another example
I've saw many people saying that dimensional tiering is completely bullshit and that being 5D, 4D, 3D doesn't add anything in terms of AP. basically This blog for example.
1)My question is how does tiering system works exactly ?
2)for the NLf while I know it's definition except I still don't...
Brought up in this thread.
An additional fallacy that isn't technically a logical fallacy, but when it comes to powerscaling and such, it's required.
52. Area of Effect Fallacy
This is when someone uses a Destructive Capacity feat to counter an Attack Potency feat.
Possible Examples:
"The...
I was debating someone about Sonic's game feats and they were trying to convince me that the moments inside a bonus stage was canon simply because the game itself was canon, this is what they said:
- Sonic Runners Adventures is a game that is canon "B is A" (This is true.)
- The bonus stage...
Who in your opinion is the most wanked character? Meaning the character has no capability of doing such tasks or feats. However only wanking of that such character can/could do it.Bring me as many characters you see that are wanked too much.
The previous thread was calm and tame. I will only...
Look, if you know what a gag character is and how they warp reality for fun then you'd know that it having limitations is rather stupid in how they can do almost anything with it.. So, just saying that a character can't do ALMOST anything with toon force is kind of the understatement at that...
I hope that this fallacy isn't an obvious one and that I've had a fool of myself, but what would this fallacy be?
Example: Frisk can defeat Asriel Dreemurr on their own and Ness couldn't defeat Giygas on his own. Asriel Dreemurr is a higher tier than Giygas, so if Frisk can beat Asriel Dreemurr...
The title says it all.
Here are the rules on how the objection games works:
1. If Person 1 make a claim, then Person 2 can attempt to object to this claim and see if there is any lies to reveal a truth. The objection by Person 2 can be overruled if the objection falls apart.
2. You can make...
Saitama is now completely wanked into oblivion and now has all his nlf wanks.
Attack potency/striking strength: Saitama can now one shot anything he can touch with no exceptions. If he touches them, they explode into mush.
Durability: Unbound by normal limits in our reality. Can tank half the...
I just had a debate on Timeskip Boruto vs Prime Tsunade (Strength of 100 Seals, Onoki Power-up) He said he didn't have any arguments and then just started saying crap like "yeah but I'll have some later so I didn't lose" It's slowly pissing me off
Can't believe I actually have to make this as I'd assume it would be pretty obvious, but whatever. This came from this thread.
So, a common issue that we have stated over and over again on threads and such is that unless a character is a specific type of being (as in they are souless or...
So if i were to have a debate about pennywise being universal plus, and somebody without any other proof came along and said "pennywise cant have infinite power, he is just a big stupid clown", what type of fallacy would this be? Would this fall under genetic or ad hominem? Or perhaps something...
I'm probably putting more time into this than what it's worth, but I loved those youtube comedy skits when they came out as a kid, so I'd like to at least see the guy done right if we're putting him on this wiki.
First off, stuff that should be removed (There's a lot, so buckle up):
Origin...
There is an old thread which is hard to find that place important limitations on hax.
The cases for limitations I believe were
1. A character cannot use hax against an opponent from a higher-dimension compare to he or she even if the opponent the lack of resistance. The exception is if the...
Some people seem to be under the belief that a character coming back from x amount of damage off-screen is assuming that said character was able regenerate from said damage, which is wrong; Unless proven otherwise, that character is coming back from the damage, assumptions would be to say that...
This has popped up in a recent thread I was involved in. Let's get straight to the point.
The Issue
We have characters who are astronomically stronger than their previous state, yet despite this they are placed as Unknown, instead of given a proper tier. My example comes from Dark Samus.
She...
Isn't it technically POINTLESS and unfair to compare Saitama to other characters and to pit him against any other characters when firstly, his entire point is as A JOKE CHARACTER that is MEANT TO SURPASS ANYTHING without needing effort and secondly that HE HASN'T SHOWN WHAT HE FULLY CAPABLE of yet?
Let`s just think for a moment if Fox could shine literally ANYTHING thrown at him.
How big of an NLF would this take? Think of the craziest stuff that this could lead to!
Note:
Come on! I`m dabbing already!
Final Destination
Any Items
Everyone against Fox
After awhile, I've started to come across too many arguments that abuse claims of NLF. I'm pretty sure the fallacy is well explained enough, but as I've said time and time again, context matters and nearly everything should be reviewed on a case-by-case basis.
We have people believing that...
Reminder: This is in Fun and Games Board.
All character from this wiki duke it out, nothing is equalized in here. But there is a twist. You can create as many fallacies in this discussion thread as much as you like until one clear winner is decided.
Aren't some of the examples for fallacies (example: OP being stronger than Naruto) kinda outdated?
Also, why was appeal to authority removed from the page? It is a sadly very commonly committed fallacy, and one of the most commonly misunderstood ones.
I've been wondering how come people are willing to suggest that actual inifinite speed is perfectly acceptable as a stat but if a character has infinite strength, then it goes against the idea that there's no such thing as infinite.