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Planck69

Planck69

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  • Garchomp777
    Can meng hao stop time for beings beyond the concept of tim
    Planck69
    Planck69
    I mean, at that point you're really not stopping time. But in a sense, he can.
    Regidian
    Can you show me where it's tell that he continues to add thread after the infinite box was created for his universe?
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    Regidian
    Regidian
    I mean nepuko if the physique and hax are not same tier than why their are fully 1-A? Otherwise i don't understand the comparaison with void shiki since even if it's like her and they just possesse the body when they want, the physical should still have a different tier.
    Planck69
    Planck69
    They can create Daos with their physical bodies just fine. Like, the only thing limiting them is the natural laws of the setting.
    Nepuko
    Nepuko
    Yes, they are fully 1-A because they are Essences unto themselves in all aspects. The ones who aren't fully 1-A are those half a step into the 4th step, who are technically 1-A in only one or 2 aspects (either body, soul, cultivation base or a combination of 2 of those). 4th step are 1-A in body, soul and cultivation base, in "all" aspects.

    The Void Shiki analogy was to show you what argument you're trying to make, it does not properly reflect the reality. If we use the Shiki analogy, it would be like Void Shiki saying "Anyone who isn't at the same level as my Hax cannot enter my House on Earth". A House on Earth isn't even Tier 8, but to enter it that means you have to be on the same level as her Void hax, i.e. 1-A. It doesn't mean you're Tier 9.

    Adding on to that, the "environment" in Er Gen verse itself cultivates. For example, you can have a Universe-level Sun.....an actual Sun. That can destroy Universes, has Universal+ durability and has 4-D hax. So going like "lol they destroyed that sun, they should be Tier 4" is wrong in that instance, for example, as it would be Tier 2. But I digress.
    Greatsage13th
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    Greatsage13th
    Greatsage13th
    Planck69
    Planck69
    They both haven't seen the clip and aren't knowledgeable members, when you start saying stuff like that then of course they'll agree.

    Whatever, I don't care about this anymore. Ask some other members just don't keep bothering me with this verse.
    Greatsage13th
    Greatsage13th
    I already pointed out your arguements there about that it didn't represent any idea/concept of any nature and throughout the entire thread I constantly reminded them that it was never stated to represent anything at all.

    Edit: fixed element would more likely mean it is a fixed idea from what I found.

    What fixed means?
    1a : securely placed or fastened : stationary. b(1) : nonvolatile. (2) : formed into a chemical compound. c(1) : not subject to change or fluctuation a fixed income. (2) : firmly set in the mind a fixed idea.
    Garchomp777
    hey for that red tornado thread, you forgot to mention those abilities are stuff in his elemental form, not regular form 💀 I added that small bit already. Don't think another key is needed for elemental form, but its probably needed seeing as he scales to pre crisis characters, we can talk about it in another CRT sometime. Is there some parliament CRT ongoing right now?
    Planck69
    Planck69
    If you need to reopen the thread, just message Antvasima.

    There's a CRT going on, yes.
    Grand_Saver_Ritsuka
    Hey planck, iust wondering , could you give me all the statements that show cthulu mythos is tier 0??
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    Planck69
    Planck69
    Not any I have at hand. It's the Cthulhu Mythos, were you expecting feats?
    Grand_Saver_Ritsuka
    Grand_Saver_Ritsuka
    Nope, just looking for flowery language that gets you at tier 1.
    Planck69
    Planck69
    That's the main bulk. There was also a statement of a universe-atom hierarchy and in Kull, it's implied that there's an endless chain of universes that are less than atoms in a higher reality.
    Grand_Saver_Ritsuka
    Greenshifter
    Here take a look. The shit Supes does on a daily basis is literally more than ridiculous.
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    Planck69
    Planck69
    My main issue was "muh concepts of space and time" statements.
    Greenshifter
    Greenshifter
    and https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/10/106979/6914044-8788905600-53819.jpg these scans are on Lucifer Morningstar’s page. They’re essentially saying how he transcends the concepts of space and time and I don’t think it has anything to do with being transcendent to the Bleed yet he’s still 1-A and I don’t think anyone but Ant really wants to downgrade him since this is Post-Crisis.

    This guy also got some conceptual transcendence stuff.

    Edit: the second one does talk about layers my bad.
    Planck69
    Planck69
    Demonbane was 1-A for 3 years despite having BS justifications. It being on the profile doesn't mean that it shouldn't be scrutinised and changed when necessary.
    Dienomite22
    Yo. I remembered something from RI that should upgrade the lifting strength via divine sense for peak first step cultivators and above. In chapter 1487-1488, Xi Zifang uses her divine sense and origin soul to shake and nearly change the trajectory of a cultivation planet by herself and states that she has done so successfully to three planets before. The mid-stage nirvana scryer cultivator does it successfully with ease.

    Chapter 1487

    "There were many people as ugly as her. Also, she was only a Corporeal Yang cultivator with no family backing, so she could be bullied without consequence.

    “Xi Zifeng, use your origin soul to shake the trajectory of this planet.” This middle-aged man was at the mid stage of Nirvana Scryer, and his words contained a sense of indisputable majesty.

    He had known this woman for a long time, and he was someone who once seeked her beauty. However, it was because of this that every time he saw her ugly appearance, the more discomfort he felt.

    To move a cultivation planet, one needed to first use their origin soul to shake it off its trajectory. When the trajectory was changed, the rebound force would injure one’s origin soul greatly.

    Xi Zifeng silently pondered and her face turned pale. A moment later, she respectfully clasped her hands and said in a hoarse voice, “Lord Messenger, I have shaken the last three planets off trajectory with my origin soul and my injuries haven’t recovered. Can I…”

    Before Xi Zifeng finished speaking, the middle-aged man frowned and snorted.

    Xi Zifeng’s body trembled and she bit her lower lip. She no longer spoke and turned toward the cultivation planet.

    Chapter 1488

    Xi Zifeng bit her lower lip and flew toward the planet filled with spiritual energy. She closed her eyes, but there were no tears.

    Her tears had long dried up over the past 800 years.

    Her cultivation slowly activated and a gentle light spread out from her body. Her origin soul created a thread of divine sense that moved toward the cultivation planet that had already been evacuated.

    In an instant, her divine sense seemed to connect with the cultivation planet. Her face was pale as she clenched her teeth and her divine sense pulled!

    This cultivation planet immediately rumbled and its slow rotation stopped due to the pull of her divine sense!

    However, the moment it paused, an unimaginable rebound force appeared and charged mercilessly at Xi Zifeng’s divine sense.

    Xi Zifeng coughed out blood. The divine sense that had split off from her origin soul wasn’t able to bear the rebound force, and it began to tear down the middle!

    Her face was deathly pale and she retreated hundreds of feet. Her origin soul flew out once more to form the thread of divine sense. The thread flew toward the planet and pulled once more!

    The intense rumble echoed and the planet showed signs of changing trajectory. However, the rebound force was even more intense than before. As the thunderous rumbles echoed, Xi Zifeng’s divine sense collapsed once more!

    This collapse caused Xi Zifeng’s divine sense to collapse layer by layer, and her origin soul was knocked back into her body. She coughed out blood as her body trembled, and she looked like she couldn’t even stand. Her face was ashen and her eyes became dim.

    “Useless trash!” With a cold snort, the Thunder Celestial Temple messenger flew past Xi Zifeng and waved his sleeves.     His origin soul formed a thread of divine sense and connected to the planet. With a roar, he pulled the planet out from the trajectory it had been on for countless years."

    Stopping a cultivation planet's rotation and changing its trajectory by pulling should be a lifting strength feat right?
    Planck69
    Planck69
    Yes, it is.

    Peak 1st Step cultivators already have Multi-Galactic lifting strength via moving large chunks of Heavenspan. This is probably enough to upgrade them to Universal via moving cultivation planets at least as large as Suzaku.
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