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Duel of the Deuteragonists Vol. 2: Moss vs Sauce

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DavidTPPM said:
Sasuke was fighting on par with someone who had millenia of combat experience when their only combat ability were close range weapons.
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That's utterly meaningless. It's an Otsutuski, an immortal with tons of hax and a ridiculous AP advantage against 98% of the verse.


Me and @Godernet have already discussed the skill portion privately since the majority of you honestly can't argue for skill for shit. I'm not even trying to be offense but this is something the dude who MADE Zoro's intelligence section and one of the Naruto fan's that isn't a wanker.
DavidTPPM said:
He beat 1000 trained shinobi without fatally wounding a single one of them at the same time at the age of 16.
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Don't even start with me dude. This is also a pretty empty feat, or rather one that you overblow much like the majority of new users here. Sasuke and Zoro both have feats that shit on them but yall always wanna talk about the bare minimum.


I've already discussed this match with Godernet when so I'm not gonna waste my time by replying anymore.
 
PatatesR said:
Being a good swordsman in his universe doesn't make him better than Sasuke. Sasuke is a person who created his own sword style and used it against the divine beings of his own universe.
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Are we gonna keep f***ing doing this bruh? Like, it is completely undebatable that Zoro's swordsmanahip is superior. The arguments for Sasuke's is trash and the profiles absolutely scream why it isn't close. Gin made it very clear Zoro is superior to Sasuke in direct swordplay.
 
Why take the "Sasuke took down 1000 ninjas at once, absolute skill omg!!" feat out of context, apply it to Zoro like that means anything in terms of abject swordplay skill here?

Does feat prove Sasuke's good at fighting? Sure. Does the feat prove Sasuke's good at a sword? Sure, why not! ...Does it prove he's as skilled as Zoro at swordplay? NO.

In a vaccuum it's just Sasuke taking down a bunch of shinobi offscreen and nothing else. No noteable swordsman shinobi defeated among the piles of bodies we see, no actual sword combat, literally nothing. At that point in the series he was also candidate for Orochimaru's new body-- and he sure as hell wasn't a moon buster yet.

I'm surpried this is even a debate because swordplay isn't Sasuke's entire thing at all. And it's painfully obvious that Zoro is the superior swordsman here, especially with Haki and the crazy shit he gets in this key.
 
it even kinda says on the profiles that Zoro>Sasuke in swordplay
Zoro has extraordinary genius on his profile simply off swordplay alone while Sasuke has genius
 
Quibster said:
Why take the "Sasuke took down 1000 ninjas at once, absolute skill omg!!" feat out of context, apply it to Zoro like that means anything in terms of abject swordplay skill here?

Does feat prove Sasuke's good at fighting? Sure. Does the feat prove Sasuke's good at a sword? Sure, why not! ...Does it prove he's as skilled as Zoro at swordplay? NO.

In a vaccuum it's just Sasuke taking down a bunch of shinobi offscreen and nothing else. No noteable swordsman shinobi defeated among the piles of bodies we see, no actual sword combat, literally nothing. At that point in the series he was also candidate for Orochimaru's new body-- and he sure as hell wasn't a moon buster yet.

I'm surpried this is even a debate because swordplay isn't Sasuke's entire thing at all. And it's painfully obvious that Zoro is the superior swordsman here, especially with Haki.
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Absolute fax
 
The Susano'o discussion was interesting but I'm surprised nobody has talked about Banshō Ten'in or Shinra Tensei strats at this point.
 
Quibster said:
The Susano'o discussion was interesting but I'm surprised nobody has talked about Banshō Ten'in or Shinra Tensei at this point.
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Well, if Sasuke uses Universal Pull, he's gonna get Zoro in close range, and uh, that's where he thrives best in this matchup, especially with Tatsumaki being his own get off me tool, plus can't it be resisted by Zoro's kit or LS? I know Shadow Paralysis can, but Idk about Bansho. If Sasuke pulls him in, I'm a little certain Zoro can do a small Iai attack by unsheathing one of his swords and get him out of the way. As for Shinra, Zoro can move out of the way, and Sasuke doesn't really use Shinra Tensei like Pain does, so it won't be a massive problem since he doesn't spam it.
 
ReaperAndBlues said:
Are we gonna keep f***ing doing this bruh? Like, it is completely undebatable that Zoro's swordsmanahip is superior. The arguments for Sasuke's is trash and the profiles absolutely scream why it isn't close. Gin made it very clear Zoro is superior to Sasuke in direct swordplay.
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No, it's not obvious, you continue with completely head-scratching comments. I don't care about Gin's opinions.
 
PatatesR said:
No, it's not obvious, you continue with completely head-scratching comments. I don't care about Gin's opinions.
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It is bruh, read the damn profile. Zoro is an EG because of his swordsmanship. Sasuke ain't shit. I'm not gonna entertain this debate and at this point trying to argue against it is stonewalling.
 
Just a question, has Sasuke even used Shinra Tensei at all? I know he can use it, but has he ever used it in character?
 
for all the people getting caught up in the skill debate and citing Gin, remember how he said most of y’all don’t know what you’re talking about as far as the skill debate.

When we talked about it in dms we both agreed the skill gap isn’t large enough for either to gap the other in any meaningful way.

Sasuke being a genius while Zoro is EG doesn’t matter because Zoros intelligence section is far more up to date than Sasukes(hasn’t been updated in years.)

Y’all might as well drop it and focus on other points
 
Godernet said:
for all the people getting caught up in the skill debate and citing Gin, remember how he said most of y’all don’t know what you’re talking about as far as the skill debate.

When we talked about it in dms we both agreed the skill gap isn’t large enough for either to gap the other in any meaningful way.

Sasuke being a genius while Zoro being EG is a product of Zoros intelligence section being far more up to date than Sasukes(hasn’t been updated in years.)

Y’all might as well drop it and focus on other points
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That's what I've been tryna say. Except I do know what I'm talking about. I'm simply using Gin's points because he's the more experienced in this case. But you are right that there are other points to be debated
 
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