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The sword of the strawhat vs the heavenly sword
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Also Ram can deal with major speed differences with her skill alone, Reid massifely upscales to her so i would like to knoe how exactly does he tries to blitz
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Reid don't scale to the Ram feat.
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He does? That was a skill feat and Reid massively outskills her in every single category and this discussion is not for this thread. If you disagree then argue about it in the other threads already been made
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No.
The reason we scale skill in Re:ZERO is because of flow-mo. Ram as not using flow-mo while dodging, so no one have that skill.
Nope.
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I am not gonna go over Ram here, i am just gonna use whats already been accepted. If you disagree then go right ahead and make a CRT
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I already said i gonna.
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Fezzih_007
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Zoro's also getting an intelligence upgrade so the skill gap is significantly more debatable now.
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Actual feats >>> muh conceptual skill nonsense tbh. What actual feats does Reid have that don't rely on hax (cutting concepts and bullshit of the sorts.)
Fezzih_007
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Yes apparently.
Like, Zoro have fear manipulation, and this humanoid monkey are like "Lmao look at this guy" not being affected.
Then Miwalk came, and they immediatly shit themself, feeling fear.
And Zoro is not affected by Mihawk aura.
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Not much directly since he's dead, most of it comes from being incomparably superior to those below him, to the degree of existing in a different dimension of swordsmanship. He's kinda like the Mihawk of his verse, if Mihawk was a dead historical figure.
Since on-page he hasn't fought anyone strong enough for him to try it's mostly been him totally dominating any fight he engages just by swinging his chopsticks once.
The warriors blog on the RZ main page is pretty much full of stuff that Reid is >>>>>>>> compared to with some exceptions.
His weirdest one-screen feat is definitely inventing a new form of running, then mastering it, just because he always unconsciously fights optimally. Weirdo redhead.
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Done
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SBA, so do they still start 4km apart? If so, Zoro's range is only around 1km while Reid's is tens i.e at least 20km.
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Yes, they start 4km away.
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Okay but like why does he have a random ass rating for his range without any calc...?
Fezzih_007
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Not really no, since Zoro can close the distance pretty fast.
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It was stated earlier he can apparently cut people who are up in the clouds while sitting on the floor, I think? Should be listed of course.
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His range is scales to Reinhard. Even the high tier Swordsmen can casually cut the clouds.
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At that distance it is literally whoever hits first. Zoro's got a gigantic AP advantage, but Reid has dura neg that will kill Zoro instantly.
Zoro has good kenbun, Reid has the line-thingy analytical prediction, right?
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Yes, kinda.
But i already said why Zoro should be better in close range.
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Zoro also has durability negation
Fezzih_007
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He already AP stomp trought.
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You're 100% correct to mention it but I didn't since it doesn't even matter here when he obliterates Reid in raw AP alone anyway, dura neg is sprinkles on top.
I'm thinking this tbf. Reid FRA.
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Zabazab
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? Zoro's LS is comically higher.
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Bro really created his own version of "Mystic eyes of death perception"
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Ah, i read it wrong.
Sorry.
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Kenbunshoku haki + Goken Analytical Prediction and information Analysis would let Zoro know of whatever Reid is doing, also Zoro has no reasons to "clash swords." (Even if he did, Reid isn't doing shit since Zoro's AP is laughably above Reid's so that sword is being shattered by Zoro.) Zoro aims for the vitals, not the sword.
Fezzih_007
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I trought the same thing actually, the way Zabazab described.
But is more like this:
Zabazab
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Reid resists A-Prediction and Info Analysis, plus his actions and thoughts are simultaneous due to insane IA so I don't think mind-reading will help too much.
Reid's conceptual dura neg trumps Zoro's AP in any sword clash, he just bisects him.
Fezzih_007
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Is not layered trought, Zoro Analytical prediction and Info Analysis is layered.
I mean, even if Zoro loses his sword, he can still fight using Mutoryu
But then again, his not gonna do a sword clash, he would most likely use Tatsumaki.
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First things first, the type of AP Reid resists doesn't cover Zoro's types of AP. Kenbunshoku has various types of Analytical Prediction and even full on precognition at times, being furthered by Zoro's own Goken AP which comes in 2 forms.
Resisting Info Analysis isnt helpful since Zoro's gonna be smarter and his is based on his combat IQ, it's not an ability like how others have it via supernatural means.
Cool that quite literally does not help him.
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Well I don't think Reid resists divination.
Reid himself does have powerful prediction as well, being comparable to Reinhard means his intuition can detect threats to himself and cause his body to respond appropriately, even detecting and perfectly slipping through invisible dura neg danmaku despite it existing seperated from the world.
I'm fairly certain Reid's resistence is not supernatural, his attacks just cannot be read and they have no menace.
With divination probably not but it does help deal with mind reading.
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Having menace or not wouldn't effect Zoro from utilizing his Info analysis which reads the "breath" of his target.
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