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We can always change to 6-A zoro.Due to Reid no longer having a 7-B key, now being 6-C in base, I don't believe this match is possible anymore- at least under these conditions.
Yeah the Op Satella-Kun not even participating anymore.Or we can just close this thread, yk..
Why not?No way Zoro is avoiding kilometer range concept cutting.
How will Zoro sense or perceive a cut through concepts? The guy can kill light and sound. Like, what is Zoro even gonna do to avoid any of his attacks?Why not?
I mean that's fine since Zoro doesnt use sound or light, nor any conceptual techniques for Reid to cut. You can't say he can kill Zoro's concepts either since Reid is only limited to sound and light for his conceptual manipulation. Can't say he can effect other concepts outside of the one's he's actually shown.How will Zoro sense or perceive a cut through concepts? The guy can kill light and sound.
Dodge, predict, etc. Even the Reid supporters who have extensive knowledge aren't even downplaying Zoro enough to be incapable of reacting. Also pretty sure not all of Reid's attacks are conceptual.Like, what is Zoro even gonna do to avoid any of his attacks?
Then what does he use?I mean that's fine since Zoro doesnt use sound or light,
He manifest the concept of sword which is what he uses to cut things. All of his attacks with this are inherently conceptual ones.Can't say he can effect other concepts outside of the one's he's actually shown.
His swords, fire and occasionally durability negation gusts of air.Then what does he use?
I got something for that actually lolHe manifest the concept of sword which is what he uses to cut things. All of his attacks with this are inherently conceptual ones.
He's stated capable of cutting through anything through that power. Which, from what he has shown, includes space and time.
Which means he can just cut through space/time and essentially ignore distance. Pretty sure he has to do this when killing Regulus because he is cut off from time in a way that pretty much makes him in a separate dimension.
These attacks wouldn't even be detectable. I don't believe you can sense that without a type of ESP that Zoro doesn't have.
No no, I'm saying, what does he use to predict and avoid things?His swords, fire and occasionally durability negation gusts of air.
Yes.No no, I'm saying, what does he use to predict and avoid things?
Can Zoro dodge stuff of he has no light or sound to work with?
Goken and Kenbunshoku, my mad I thought you meant like what does he attack with. But yeah, Goken offers layered Analytical Prediction and comes in 2 forms while Kenbunshoku also offers more forms of Analytical Prediction that gets stronger as you fight.No no, I'm saying, what does he use to predict and avoid things?
Well considering he's fought while blinded and with damaged hearing I'd say so yeah.Can Zoro dodge stuff of he has no light or sound to work with?
At the same time?Goken and Kenbunshoku, my mad I thought you meant like what does he attack with. But yeah, Goken offers layered Analytical Prediction and comes in 2 forms while Kenbunshoku also offers more forms of Analytical Prediction that gets stronger as you fight.
Well considering he's fought while blinded and with damaged hearing I'd say so yeah.
You asking if they work at the same time? Yeah they work off one another, it's kinda like Synergy.At the same time?
Same time, Daz Bones slashed Zoro up to the point where he had enough blood loss to loss his eyesight temporarily, extreme organ failure and hearing loss from the blood loss / anemiaBlinded and deaf at the same time or on different occasions?
Read above.Also, damaged hearing is not the same as being completely incapable of hearing.
There's a lot so I'd need a sefond.second.How do the analytical prediction abilities work?
Still doesn't seem like he lost them completely.Read above.
Because Type 3 conceptual manipulation can be countered and or resisted by other similar abilities despite them not being conceptual.Btw how exactly does downgrading the concepts affect anything I said?
Then it won't hurt Zoro who's resistant as fudge to spatial manipulation. His resistance to that is layered as hell (4-7 layers iirc.)His cuts don't possess light or sound and they cleave through space and time.
His own AP and information Analysis, along with having experience against similar abilities such as Goken. (Pinnacle of Swordsmanship, cut through anything regardless of durability, weak points, durability negation, etc.)I'm not seeing how Zoro predicts or avoids those at this time.
Does this particular swordsman have any feats of cutting through space/time with invisible attacks?His own AP and information Analysis, along with having experience against similar abilities such as Goken. (Pinnacle of Swordsmanship, cut through anything regardless of durability, weak points, durability negation, etc.)
He did. That's what blood loss does, in extreme cases like Zoro's. It's just temporary but those senses are still lost.Still doesn't seem like he lost them completely.
Kenbunshoku Haki users can predict Law's spatial slashing which is invisible, intangible and doesn't have a projectile / ignores distance.And even then, these attacks also cut through time and space so there's just no way I see him predicting these.
Type 3, which isnt anything impressive. Zoro is resistant to spatial manipulation, and as i said above Zoro doesn't need his sight nor hearing to fight.So basically, they go through space and time, are conceptual, have no sound, and no light.
Honestly that makes no sense imo. Cutting Regulus isn't the same thing as cutting time and causality just because he's disconnected from them. Shit if anything what Regulus does has nothing to do with the manipulation of space or causality given that he's disconnected from em to begin with.And potentially ignore distance and causality based on him being able to cut Regulus.
Trafalgar Law.Does this particular swordsman have any feats of cutting through space/time with invisible attacks?
Read above.And can Zoro predict those?
What is Reid's win-con if Zoro has layered precognition and resist all of his abilities?Not a stomp. It's a decisive win.
You can just read the haki page...At the same time?
Blinded and deaf at the same time or on different occasions?
Also, damaged hearing is not the same as being completely incapable of hearing.
Zoro doesn't resist dura neg, unlike Reid, no?If everything there is true and Reid gets downgraded to type 3 concept then this becomes a stomp the other way around cause his abilities are resisted and Zoro can predict them.
Buso is implied to be resistant against Goken which essentially works on the same principle as Reid's form of durability negation barring conceptual jazz.Zoro doesn't resist dura neg, unlike Reid, no?
Question, when did someone predict the slash itself and not Law's own movements/intent?Kenbunshoku Haki users can predict Law's spatial slashing which is invisible, intangible and doesn't have a projectile / ignores distance.
That is exactly what an extremely old wilhelm can dodge who is massiveky inferior to his peak version who is massively inferior to ReidKenbunshoku Haki users can predict Law's spatial slashing which is invisible, intangible and doesn't have a projectile / ignores distance.
It literally does though? Also make CRTs if you disagree with something instead of complaining about themType 3, which isnt anything impressive. Zoro is resistant to spatial manipulation, and as i said above Zoro doesn't need his sight nor hearing to fight.
Honestly that makes no sense imo. Cutting Regulus isn't the same thing as cutting time and causality just because he's disconnected from them. Shit if anything what Regulus does has nothing to do with the manipulation of space or causality given that he's disconnected from em to begin
When did someone read Law's intent with Kenbun in order to avoid his spatial slashes?Question, when did someone predict the slash itself and not Law's own movements/intent?
From what I can remember rn, Doffy catching his sword without even looking at him and then stopping any space hax with his Buso.When did someone read Law's intent with Kenbun in order to avoid his spatial slashes?
No one has shown to avoid them once they're launched.But like, has anyone ever actually avoid one of the slashes after they were "fired"? Cause they don't travel, it wouldn't make sense for someone to sense/dodge them since they happen directly in the target.
They're still reacting / sensing the invisible slash itself, some people have even full on blocked em before.Question, when did someone predict the slash itself and not Law's own movements/intent?
Scans or I don't buy it.That is exactly what an extremely old wilhelm can dodge who is massiveky inferior to his peak version who is massively inferior to Reid.
No it literally doesn't. Being an Acausal, cutting someone who's Acausal is no different than cutting a normal person. Unless it's Type 3 being the multi location variant, the rest don't offer any other notable abilities other than resisting effects of Precognition, Causality Manipulation and Fate Manipulation.It literally does though? Also make CRTs if you disagree with something instead of complaining about them
It actually does in the case of type 4 and type 5 where certain characters are unable to be damaged due to being incapable of being affected.Being Acausal doesn't somehow make you impervious to damage.
Petelgeuse's Unseen Hand has seemingly layered invisibility as Julius who can react to invisible attacks on instinct cannot react to them. They do not produce sound nor aura to sense, and are intangible. Despite all of this, Wilhelm can easily predict and avoid the Unseen Hand just by looking at Petelgeuse's eyes, breathing, and feeling his hostility.Scans or I don't buy it.
By reading law, your are reading his slash attacks as well, of course dodging it and blocking it you'd need to do it beforehand same with reacting/sensingQuestion, when did someone predict the slash itself and not Law's own movements/intent?
If they're acting based on Law's movements/intent (such as what Doffy did when grabbing his sword) then the slash isn't even out yet, or you can send the scan where that happened, Law has been in too many fights at this point to remember all of them.They're still reacting / sensing the invisible slash itself, some people have even full on blocked em before.