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BAN-KAI! Bleach General Discussion

Opposition
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Reio35 said:
Aizen has read all of soul societies secrets so he should know them all even the forbidden ones. It's also stated in databooks plp who can use hado 88 and above are kido masters. So at the very least hes a kido master.

Even tessai the head commander of the kido corpse was surprised aizen could offset his kido with no incantations. However Idk if he can use time stop or space dislocation like tessai. Which is a ability similar to kaguyas were he can teleport plp within a certain range and stop time. In all likely hood can considering he literal knows all of ss secrets and could even out class tessai the highest ranking kido user.
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It's also stated in databooks plp who can use hado 88 and above are kido masters. So at the very least hes a kido master.
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Got this on hand?
 
Didn’t Aizen invented his own kido? Hado #90? Tessai said time stop Kido was a forbidden Kido or something like that, so not everyone knows about it.
 
AppleLord said:
Didn’t Aizen invented his own kido? Hado #90? Tessai said time stop Kido was a forbidden Kido or something like that, so not everyone knows about it.
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That was never said

Azashiro used Kurohitsugi, and Gin knew about it before Aizen even used it.
 
Cyberblader90 said:
anyone got the databook statement that reio mentioned?
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"Hado 88 Hiryugekizoku Shintenraiho: A high-level Hado that only master-class Kido users can use."

Unless Reio is referring to a different DB to Unmasked 2, it doesn't say that.

My bad, it does say that, I thought Reio was saying that anyone who can use Hado 88 can use any Kido.
 
Purgy said:
That was never said

Azashiro used Kurohitsugi, and Gin knew about it before Aizen even used it.
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Oh, yes, it was Urahara who invented a new kido to seal Aizen. Not Aizen. lol

That means Ichibei keeps naming stuff through others? Or he doesn't know every kido? But isn't their a statement in CFYOW that Ichibei see all? Nigh omniscience?
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Quincy I guess

Though the recent chapter appears to retcon that, given that Yamamoto, who was killed by Yhwach, is in Hell.

Unless Hell is so special that it somehow takes even erased souls.
 
Purgy said:
Quincy I guess

Though the recent chapter appears to retcon that, given that Yamamoto, who was killed by Yhwach, is in Hell.

Unless Hell is so special that it somehow takes even erased souls.
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Well the thing with Yhwach is he absorbs the souls of everyone he kills, so he isn’t a valid anti feat.

Hollow souls aren’t any different from regular souls minus it’s a bunch of souls in one and it’s stronger than human souls.
 
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Purgy said:
I'm not sure why this hasn't been discussed before, at least, to my knowledge it hasn't, but during Yhwach's fight with Ichibe, Ichibe cut both Yhwach's arm and his entire body, turning them into "Ar" and "Yhw" respectively, which as a consequence, halved Yhwach's power.

However, Yhwach himself restored his name, shouldn't this give Yhwach CM? At the very least, a limited variant?

Just to note, I'm talking about Yhwach prior to using The Almighty.

Also, before someone says that Yhwach just restored his power, not his name, no, Yhwach verbatim says that he restored his name and his power.
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Bumping

Probably gonna make a CRT about this so want more opinions
 
Purgy said:
Quincy I guess

Though the recent chapter appears to retcon that, given that Yamamoto, who was killed by Yhwach, is in Hell.

Unless Hell is so special that it somehow takes even erased souls.
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I think it has to be their arrows specifically. Yhwach never used arrows to kill yhwach
 
Reio35 said:
I think it has to be their arrows specifically. Yhwach never used arrows to kill yhwach
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Yhwach killed himself? Must’ve missed the page lol

But yeah, Yhwach used arrows to kill Yama. Pointed a finger at him and basically unleashed a Licht Regen on his ass.
 
Purgy said:
Quincy I guess

Though the recent chapter appears to retcon that, given that Yamamoto, who was killed by Yhwach, is in Hell.

Unless Hell is so special that it somehow takes even erased souls.
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Yhwach used the sword to cut him in half, and blast him with a finger. No arrows. Unless we assume all Quincy powers have EE?

Ulquiorra was blasted with a cero but if Kubo brings him back it will be because Vasto Lorde Ichigo first cut him in half and his inner organs couldn't regenerate. Something similar may apply to Yama.
 
AppleLord said:
Oh, yes, it was Urahara who invented a new kido to seal Aizen. Not Aizen. lol

That means Ichibei keeps naming stuff through others? Or he doesn't know every kido? But isn't their a statement in CFYOW that Ichibei see all? Nigh omniscience?
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Yea, ichibe was stated to see everything that goes on the dimensions
 
Bernkastelll said:
it would be better if u ask it in fairy tail discussion thread lmao
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I mean if I ask them on their forums some of them would stretch it. I'm just wondering since there is a guy called Zeref and there are some debates about him on social medias about where he scales that's all.
 
Base should be somewhere in country to the multi continental range at most. FH would be multi continental - uni+, multiversal if you really want to wank.
 
Zeref wank gets pretty high tbh. I seen shit from immeasurable speed to every attack is conceptual to high godly regen (I made this one) to outerversal. Usually all at once. At that point, you either have to debunk it (harder if you don’t know the verse yourself) or wank Ichigo to irrelevant speed and omnipotent+ for harming Yhwach.
 
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