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Ultima_Reality

Ultima_Reality

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  • Planck69
    Hey Ultima, I have a question.

    So, the Vast Expanse is a multiverse, with its own overarching time. Now, when a character attempts to manipulate space, he sees countless "dimensional spaces" i.e. spatial dimensions beyond the regular 3, that stretch out across the entire multiverse in terms of length.

    Would this be High 1-B (Since it means infinite in context) or just still 2-B?
    Planck69
    Planck69
    By the way, here's the context;

    "What is space...?” Meng Hao murmured. The sound of his voice echoed out, causing the starry sky to shake. Although his eyes were closed, in his mind, he could see numerous dimensional spaces, spreading out in all directions, stretching out over such a vast area that they seemed limitless.
    “Length ... is space ...
    “Height ... is space ...
    “Breadth ... is also space ...
    “Size, can also be an expression of space...” Among the countless dimensional spaces, he saw that they could be described in terms of length, height, breadth, and overall size. And yet all of that seemed to be only a portion of what space was. Those were all... descriptions of space.
    However, Meng Hao still didn't understand everything clearly. There was something he was missing, something he hadn’t grasped.''

    "Space... is nothing more than countless threads, formed together into a pattern. The patterns formed by those threads... are space!” Meng Hao shook his head, then waved his hand, causing a circle to appear beneath his feet.
    “I am currently within space,” he said, looking down. Then he smiled as his enlightenment deepened. As for the sea of flames that was the Outsider Dao Sovereign, it appeared to be on the verge of consuming Meng Hao, but to the Dao Sovereign’s utter shock, he realized that the flames were stuck to the outside of the thread that formed the circle!
    [...]
    Meng Hao’s expression was calm as he looked at the circle formed by the thread, within which he stood. Then he smiled. '“As for these threads... doesn't the Essence I have gained enlightenment of consist of more than just the threads themselves?
    “Within these threads are length, height, breadth, and size. They are limitless, and that is space....     They are flat, but actually....” He waved his right hand, causing a thread to stretch out from the circle, and then pass over him. In the blink of an eye, the circle of threads was no longer flat, but had transformed into... a sphere!
    “With an additional thread, it is no longer a circle, but a sphere, like a world ...''

    Meng Hao saw countless dimensions of space, all of them different sizes. Some were blurry, others were clear. They transformed into countless threads, threads that Meng Hao was very familiar with; every time he unleashed the Eighth Hex, these threads would appear, bind whoever was the target of the magic, and seal their cultivation base as well as their Nascent Divinity.
    Originally, Meng Hao had assumed that the threads were natural laws of Heaven and Earth. But now that he could see them clearly, he understood that they... were definitely not natural or magical laws!
    They were dimensional spaces!''
    Ultima_Reality
    Ultima_Reality
    Yeah, it seems like the "threads" are referring to the individual axes comprising a dimensional space, so, if there are infinite of those, it'd be High 1-B.
    Planck69
    Planck69
    Thanks man. You the MVP.
    Emirp sumitpo
    Hey I have a question: I have a question, if a character is as large as multiple Low 2-C structures, what speed would they get? Like say, they are 2-C via sheer size. Would they get immesurable?
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    Emirp sumitpo
    Emirp sumitpo
    Curious but why infinite? Wouldn't covering across multiple Low 2-C structures be immesuarable as it's technically moving across multiple space time continuums?
    Planck69
    Planck69
    Infinite is if the universes are infinite in size.

    Not quite. There's a difference between moving across the time stream because of range and because of speed.
    Emirp sumitpo
    Emirp sumitpo
    Ah, so if you were to be as big as several Low 2-C universes, you would only have that much range but wouldn't be immesuarble in speed? I see
    Planck69
    Hey Ultima, I have a question.

    A timeline is uncountably infinite times larger than a 3-dimensional universe because it's essentially uncountably infinite snapshots of it, if I got this right So, would this apply for a timeline with a 3-dimensional aspect of any size? If not then is there a specific reason?
    SonicMDC
    Hey, on the Fireman's profile, it should say "High 6-A to at least Low 1-A" instead of "High 6-A to At least Low 1-A" for both tier and attack potency.
    SonicMDC
    SonicMDC
    Well, actually Multi Continent level to at least Low Outerverse level for Attack Potency.
    Ultima_Reality
    Ultima_Reality
    Didn't notice that. Thanks.
    SonicMDC
    SonicMDC
    You're welcome! Anytime!
    Amakasu
    Yo, I just saw the vsb tiering system, and it seemed that to reach outerversal you need to have the cardinality of Aleph 2. How does dc and marvel reach there?
    Ultima_Reality
    Ultima_Reality
    Set theory just acts like a skeleton making sure comparisions between verses are possible to begin with. It's just a measuring stick, and a verse doesn't need to mention spaces of any given cardinality to reach 1-A.
    Amakasu
    Amakasu
    So, if the trancendense is big enough they can qualify for that tier right?
    Ultima_Reality
    Ultima_Reality
    Yeah.
    Planck69
    Hello, I have a small question regarding temporal dimensions.

    Say, Alice can move through time like it is space, punch you in the crotch 3 days from now etc. Basically, she has Immeasurable speed. Now, her timeline is one among many others embedded in a higher overarching Time. Would she still have Immeasurable speed from the perspective of this higher timeline or be unable to move through it like space?
    Ultima_Reality
    Ultima_Reality
    Not necessarily, no, unless she is explicitly capable of doing that. In all likelihood, this overarching time flow would just be the timeline which she abides by, as opposed to the timeline of any individual universe.
    Planck69
    Planck69
    Ah, I see. Thanks.
    Hello, i have a doubt can you answer me if any character that is low 1-C (or above) receives large size type 10 by default?
    Ultima_Reality
    Ultima_Reality
    Not really, no. You can be both Tier 1 and human-sized, or anything-sized, for that matter.
    ZeryTyol
    I see, but what if the character in question is the embodiment of an infinite multiverse, or the void that surrounds that multiverse? Anyway thanks for the answer.
    RethPo
    Heyyy, mind helping out on this ctr? Just a calc and some scaling that needs to be agreed or disagreed on. Thanks in advance!
    StrymULTRA
    A question about HDE.

    In this CRT it was pointed that Mechikabura can absorb time and timelines in his being (and I repeat, absorb, not fuse), is that enough for him being HDE or not?
    StrymULTRA
    StrymULTRA
    Bump
    Ultima_Reality
    Ultima_Reality
    Depends. If he absorbs them and they become extensions of his physical body in the process, then, yeah, but if they're just dumped in a pocket dimension inside of him (Or something similar), then, no.
    Planck69
    Small question. Alice has 2-A range and Bob can destroy 2 2-A multiverses. Now, both their APs are baseline but what about their ranges? Are they equal or is Bob's range higher?
    Ultima_Reality
    Ultima_Reality
    Bob has better range, yeah. We would still assume these multiverses are spatio-temporally isolated and separated by some higher space, so, crossing or encompassing the distance between them is still a range feat, even if not very useful to scale AP from.
    Apex_Predator_GX
    Hi buddy

    I hope you to be safe.... I was wondering if you can answer a question of mine:

    If is possible to Azathoth as a supreme Archetype God (a being superior to other Tier 0's) to totally destroy other tier 0 characters below him?

    Thanks in advance!
    Megaraptor149
    Hello ultima, i want to ask.

    What tier whould this?

    A world in the Shinken Universe. It is a kind of multiverse that contains countless branching worlds inside. The branches themselves are innumerable, but the length of the branches (the life span of the world) is finite. When the lifespan of a world is exhausted and it dies, the time axis of the world itself disappears and becomes the material for creating a new branch. In addition, one of the branched worlds becomes an infinite multi-layered world that continues forever. In other words, infinite multi-layered world x infinite world x multiple worlds of temporal branches = branching world.
    GreatIskandar14045
    GreatIskandar14045
    Just 2-A since we don't even treat any countably infinity as higher than the baseline infinity, in example an infinite*infinite*infinite*infinite*infinite multiverse is no superior than the baseline 2-A unless the verse treat so, it's just a better range feat.
    Megaraptor149
    Megaraptor149
    Okey
    TheUnshakableOne

    Uncountable Infinity question​


    Can a multiverse that is created through (specifically only by) infinite possibilities get low 1-C/5D Via.

    If 1 universes branches off with infinite universes and then those universes have their own branching Multiverse and then those have their own unique set of Multiverses branching off from those individual universes and this process continues eternally (Those universes already exist and not in a process of creation)

    A universe branching off to infinite universes and then those universes have their own unique set of branched off Infinite universes so on so on so on ∞

    That should be an uncountably Infinite amount of universes, right????
    Emirp sumitpo
    Emirp sumitpo
    I'm not ultima but just to point out here, afaik: Uncountably infinite universes is low 1-C, but uncountable infinite universes is just 2-A. There's a difference
    BleedingPeach
    Yo ♪

    Hello there, Ultima. I'm gonna say it bluntly: what are the effects of having factorial time dimensions based on the space dimensions? When I said factorial I was talking about three space, three time. Mostly because I want to understand better that fact so I could write something I think has sense and not only poetry.

    Could you know the values that could be taken as a reference for calculating said values?

    And also... Take care of anyone you care about. Volim te, Ultima
    KongKing23
    When does the Almalexia profile finally get posted?

    Should Abnur Tharn be Low 2-C because he held off pretty well against Mannimarco?
    RM97
    Hello, wanted to ask that what tier or dimensionality would be a Super-Dimension that exists beyond the reach of Euclidean Geometry?
    InfiniteDay
    InfiniteDay
    Euclidean Geometry (I believe) extends to any finite dimension. So maybe High 1-B, i'm not to good with tiers.
    Planck69
    Small question. A universe is made of 3 spatial + 1 temporal dimension. Now this universe is infinite in all four "directions". If a person created every possible variation of this universe, would it be 2-A or 2-B?
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    Planck69
    Planck69
    Ultima_Reality
    Ultima_Reality
    The Vast Expanse is 2-B, from what I see, given how it contains countless worlds and is practically infinite even to creatures that contain universes within themselves. The River of Time seems like a higher temporal axis that encompasses the entire Vast Expanse, as opposed to individual spacetimes, so it'd be Low 1-C.
    Planck69
    Planck69
    Thanks for the response.
    Peter1129
    Sorry to bother you but Ogbunali told me that you are one of the experts for the universal stuff on the site. So I was hoping to see if you could give your input here on this thread as it talks about universal stuff.
    Keeweed
    Hey I hate to bother you but I know you are one of the main experts when it comes to the elder scrolls. If you know other staff members that are knowledgeable on the elder scrolls that would be good, so I don’t need to rely on you and Matt when I have big questions.

    The reason I’m commenting here is because more and more people are starting to say some Deadric Artifacts are high 1-B by themselves (I personally disagree). This has started to pour over into versus debates so I’ve made a thread over it: https://vsbattles.com/threads/the-e...rtifacts-tier-and-powers.110280/#post-3463014
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