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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

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Still not a fan of this match. Like pitting Asta against another guy who his main gimmick doesn't work on would be wild.
 
Also another thing I found weird about bowsegg is they acted like transmutation was a huge wincon when bowser dosent really use it over something like "punch really hard". And iirc didnt the chaos emeralds cure the metal virus from silver and sonic when they went super
 
I just realized we didn't get a preview for either combatant on Sunday. Don't know why that didn't click with me until now.
 
Still not a fan of this match. Like pitting Asta against another guy who his main gimmick doesn't work on would be wild.
I also find that disappointing as someone who loves the MU, but God dammit do the connections hold tight, and the fight potential + banter go through the roof.
 
u quoted me on accident
It was on purpose actually.
Also another thing I found weird about bowsegg is they acted like transmutation was a huge wincon when bowser dosent really use it over something like "punch really hard".
Is still something on his arsenal that he can make use of tho. He often "I have to hit him, really hard" but he not above not using It. He does is others games.

Since Death Battle made them go full power without restriction, giving shit that is non-standard, transmutation is not off the tabble.
And iirc didnt the chaos emeralds cure the metal virus from silver and sonic when they went super
It wouldn't be usefull for the whole Army. It have a time limit, and when It goes out, Bowser or Kamek can just transmutate them again.
 
It was on purpose actually.

Is still something on his arsenal that he can make use of tho. He often "I have to hit him, really hard" but he not above not using It. He does is others games.

Since Death Battle made them go full power without restriction, giving shit that is non-standard, transmutation is not off the tabble.

It wouldn't be usefull for the whole Army. It have a time limit, and when It goes out, Bowser or Kamek can just transmutate them again.
its not a matter of if he has it. Would he reliably use it out of any of his options when he dosent know it would work. Also when sonic and silver transformed back after being cured of the virus the virus was no longer on them. This also assumes the beams are not dodged, or kamek dosent use it again after it failed.

Also i dont see why bowser junior was helpful in the least. His paintbrush was made by egad so i dont see why sage wouldnt just technology diff.
 
its not a matter of if he has it. Would he reliably use it out of any of his options when he dosent know it would work. Also when sonic and silver transformed back after being cured of the virus the virus was no longer on them. This also assumes the beams are not dodged, or kamek dosent use it again after it failed.

Also i dont see why bowser junior was helpful in the least. His paintbrush was made by egad so i dont see why sage wouldnt just technology diff.
also excuse me if i get this wrong. But dosent chance time have technological screen slots.

Also iirc it wouldnt give bowser eggmans equipment, just shuffle it between eggmans forces so hed still have all his stuff just scattered
 
Like, Metal's copy ability is busted and Cell has no answer to it, however, MetalOverlord was beaten physically by SuperSonic and SemiPerfectDoomShadow, MasterOverlord depowers after losing MasterEmerald, SuperNeo was countered by base cast ability and SuperSonic also beat him up anyways. If Cell is anywhere near Metal's stats, he could just overpower him. If you think "but Sonic is 6D" then you dont know what DB will realistically buy. I geniuenly think Cell has a shot based on how DB operates atm.
 
Like Cole vs Alex has a fcking fantastic fever pitch that has an interesting character interaction, a decent fight sequence that wasn't suffocatingly short, it lined up perfectly with the climax of the track, and lead pretty cleanly into the kill all while maintaining tension.
Too bad the rest of the episode was pretty mid because of their wack ass decision to treat the episode like it was written back during early Death Battle.
 
its not a matter of if he has it.
My point was more about you saying "Well, Bowser don't use transmutation often, he prefers to punch people" When in Death Battle that usually don't matter, characters can make use of movesets that is non-standard for them.
Bowser Transmutation is also not thaaat out-character, the Wonder Flower is all about that.
Would he reliably use it out of any of his options when he dosent know it would work.
Yes🤷‍♂️ there's no real reason not to try It.
Also when sonic and silver transformed back after being cured of the virus the virus was no longer on them
Yeah, the super form cured them.
This also assumes the beams are not dodged,
I guess? But Bowser army can still hit them. They can't exactly dodge all their transmutation beams.

Eggman does have ways to counter transmutation, like using the Time Stones to reverse the damage. Or any of the stones for the whole army.
His paintbrush was made by egad so i dont see why sage wouldnt just technology diff.
Bowser Jr have others abilities, even If his paintbrush is his most useful. Not sure If Sage can actually hack Magic Ink, but whatever.
 
Like, Metal's copy ability is busted and Cell has no answer to it, however, MetalOverlord was beaten physically by SuperSonic and SemiPerfectDoomShadow, MasterOverlord depowers after losing MasterEmerald, SuperNeo was countered by base cast ability and SuperSonic also beat him up anyways. If Cell is anywhere near Metal's stats, he could just overpower him. If you think "but Sonic is 6D" then you dont know what DB will realistically buy. I geniuenly think Cell has a shot based on how DB operates atm.
It’s going to be a series pity-win before composite Mario turns Sonic into paper using RPG mechanics in the finale unfortunately.
 
Like, Metal's copy ability is busted and Cell has no answer to it, however, MetalOverlord was beaten physically by SuperSonic and SemiPerfectDoomShadow, MasterOverlord depowers after losing MasterEmerald, SuperNeo was countered by base cast ability and SuperSonic also beat him up anyways. If Cell is anywhere near Metal's stats, he could just overpower him. If you think "but Sonic is 6D" then you dont know what DB will realistically buy. I geniuenly think Cell has a shot based on how DB operates atm.
TBF fighting Super Sonic is a good feat, alongside that was an amped future Shadow fighting a past Overlord.

Super Neo was countered by something Cell doesn't have, and yet again, battling Super Sonic is a good feat.

Death Battle definitely doesn't believe in 6D Sonic, but they wouldn't need to go that far to beat Cell anyway.

The only way I see them saying Cell wins is saying Cell is 1505x Uni (going by how big they think the DB universe is), and saying that it's bigger than the Sonic universe and just outpowers Metal.
 
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superneo was countered by shadow sneaking him with a weapon meant to depower him
Like, Metal's copy ability is busted and Cell has no answer to it, however, MetalOverlord was beaten physically by SuperSonic and SemiPerfectDoomShadow, MasterOverlord depowers after losing MasterEmerald, SuperNeo was countered by base cast ability and SuperSonic also beat him up anyways. If Cell is anywhere near Metal's stats, he could just overpower him. If you think "but Sonic is 6D" then you dont know what DB will realistically buy. I geniuenly think Cell has a shot based on how DB operates atm.
 
My point was more about you saying "Well, Bowser don't use transmutation often, he prefers to punch people" When in Death Battle that usually don't matter, characters can make use of movesets that is non-standard for them.
Bowser Transmutation is also not thaaat out-character, the Wonder Flower is all about that.

Yes🤷‍♂️ there's no real reason not to try It.

Yeah, the super form cured them.

I guess? But Bowser army can still hit them. They can't exactly dodge all their transmutation beams.

Eggman does have ways to counter transmutation, like using the Time Stones to reverse the damage. Or any of the stones for the whole army.

Bowser Jr have others abilities, even If his paintbrush is his most useful. Not sure If Sage can actually hack Magic Ink, but whatever.
talking about the painbrush itself, not the ink.

And youre basically trying to prove a negative, death battle always takes people in character mostly.

youre basically saying bowser would use transmutation because theres no proof he wouldnt.

The wonder flower is reality warping not transmutations
 
Honestly, since DBZ characters can master techniques just by looking at them, and Cell learned IT which took Goku 180 days, I do think Cell technically could learn Chaos Spear.

...ofc, if Metal doesnt use that move, Cell cant mimic it. Not to mention he might not know itd work on SuperNeo. Just an interesting note in the end.
 
ALso im a bit confused on why the pure hearts countered the time eater. Bowser cant use the pure hearts if hes well.. dead
 
Honestly, since DBZ characters can master techniques just by looking at them, and Cell learned IT which took Goku 180 days, I do think Cell technically could learn Chaos Spear.

...ofc, if Metal doesnt use that move, Cell cant mimic it. Not to mention he might not know itd work on SuperNeo. Just an interesting note in the end.
yeah from my understanding metal dosent know chaos spear
 
And youre basically trying to prove a negative, death battle always takes people in character mostly.
They being In-character and using all their moveset is not mutually exclusive. Like, the entire premisse of this fight is using Non-standard equipament and abilities. The Dream Stone and Time Eater being one of them.

And again, Bowser has made use of transmutation in games multiple times, is not out character for him to use.
The wonder flower is reality warping not transmutations
It is both. Like, the profile on this wiki have some instances If you wanna see..
They also completley butchered phantom ruby scaling
True.
 
And again, Bowser has made use of transmutation in games multiple times, is not out character for him to use.
Only thing I have to add to this is that it was really ****** up of Bowser to use his magic to transmute a race of sentient eggs into apples so he could eat them, like bro even chased them to a different country what was his problem?
 
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