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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Pretty sure its 6D (?)

Games were 6D last time I recall

Someone could make Xeno Goku or Universe Tree Goku vs Sonic
I think its 5D instead, but still like he reissted time eater EE which is conceptual distrucion, 1 layer for EE on lik everything. They gonna need to use the nastiest meta for cell
 
Casts aren't really reflective on how they'd scale characters in a proper DB tho since iirc it's just a two of crew members debating each other and whatever conclusion they come too likely going to be different to what the full DB Research Team comes too.
dosn't DB has a very bad match rate too?
 
If they use Super Neo then I genuinely want to see them tackle the ridiculous Regen Neg Super Forms have because that royally ***** Cell hard.
 
So for the episode itself, its another case of 'good but could be a lot better'.

Choregraphy is uninspired for the most part, Ichigio gets 3 hits in the entire fight, the kill was pretty tame.

Like I already know the storyboards are going to be bland as all hell.

It felt mass produced almost, which is odd considering its Ichigo's return. There was definitely a bigger focus on Yusuke, which isn't automatically a bad thing but stomp fights usually suffer from this syndrome of letting the loser control the fight out of pity or to make it seem close.

The track is easily the standout here.
 
Death Battle just seems too high on itself sometimes. Like they literally make shirts with the 'cinema' meme and as a whole the crew has a terrible history of responding to criticism.

They usually have to shit their pants bad for the community to consider an episode worse than okay, which in turn allows a lot of mediocrity to slip through.

Like Hulkzilla had medicore fight and the community hailed it as peak.

And yeah, I'm sure Nem will bring up 'I wish X was done' or 'y could've been done better' in his reviews, but like that never seems to amount to any improve in the show or increased discourse in the fandom.
 
I will say this, Brandon Yates is honestly improving more at his art than Death Battle is at theirs.

Brandon has continued to impress, and last season he put together a staggering line up of hits.

Solid State Invincible, Game Over, Hell's Angels, You Say Danger, Death In Bloom, The Devil Inside, Millennial Monsters, like Brandon was a fcking animal last year
 
Ngl I'm worried that if Cell vs Metal ends up having subpar animation then we're gonna have a repeat of that one week where everyone glazed all of DA's episodes just because of his announcement that he was leaving.
I will give DA the benefit of the doubt he's going to give his best. He will also have Moro and another animator helping him.

But I agree, this needs to be a step up from the clunk and plodding pace of Omnidock.
 
If he gets enough support for Cell vs Metal Sonic i reckon he can come back eventually. Either way idc, he just needs to be used for 1 or 2 cause unfortunately he doesnt understand a lot of characters as well as he knows Dragon Ball
 
But I agree, this needs to be a step up from the clunk and plodding pace of Omnidock.
I mean the Guy did Saitama vs Popeye and Dracula vs Ganondarf

He has a few hit and miss but a few misses in a row is whats getting him too much hate

But omnidock was pretty clunky and stiff yeah
 
I will give DA the benefit of the doubt he's going to give his best. He will also have Moro and another animator helping him.

But I agree, this needs to be a step up from the clunk and plodding pace of Omnidock.
Metal vs Cell needs decent HTH chorography
Issue is metal ain't moving the same way cell does in HTH

only times he ever did that was in a ova
 
I mean the Guy did Saitama vs Popeye and Dracula vs Ganondarf

He has a few hit and miss but a few misses in a row is whats getting him too much hate

But omnidock was pretty clunky and stiff yeah
I know for a fact he bad no story board to follow for his Popeye vs Saitama section, and what he came up with was probably better than what the story boards could've.

I know I say this a lot, and I dont want to point fingers at one person because I truly dont know the process, but that in of itself is damping
 
Plus how would "Statement merchants" not apply to Cell if we're going that route, both his Solar System and Universal arguments are Statements lol
Tbh No One really brought Solar System Cell cuz "Hyperbole and Flowery Language" in like 2013-14 (Goku vs Superman Era)

People used to dismiss it via "Cell was just drunk on power", "He was boasting to scare gohan off" iirc

DBS BoG did help Dragonball Scaling alot even to the point of being retroactive as everyone just kinda accepts Solar system level Cell rn
 
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Metal vs Cell needs decent HTH chorography
Issue is metal ain't moving the same way cell does in HTH

only times he ever did that was in a ova
Yeah Sonic characters are a bad match for Dragon Ball characters choreography wise. Toriyama quite literally made Goku taller because he thought he was too small for the type of fighting he wanted.

Its fine for Sonic characters when they are against someone their own size, but still its not like Sonic is known for fight choreography in the same way Dragon Ball is, in fact most of its combat identity is quite literally just diet Dragon Ball.

I suspect we will get a lot of clashes in the sky or characters moving as blurs shots, basically the over used parts of flying brick fights.
 
If it was in 2D sprites + limited hand drawn animation, I could vibe with a style similar to smbz

That was really cool for its era
 
Yeah Sonic characters are a bad match for Dragon Ball characters choreography wise. Toriyama quite literally made Goku taller because he thought he was too small for the type of fighting he wanted.

Its fine for Sonic characters when they are against someone their own size, but still its not like Sonic is known for fight choreography in the same way Dragon Ball is, in fact most of its combat identity is quite literally just diet Dragon Ball.

I suspect we will get a lot of clashes in the sky or characters moving as blurs shots, basically the over used parts of flying brick fights.
This why DB should've done Cell vs Garou
The chorography would actually have them try given how both characters are Heavy HTH fighters without relying on the typical blur shots and shit
 
If they use Super Neo then I genuinely want to see them tackle the ridiculous Regen Neg Super Forms have because that royally ***** Cell hard.
You know, I'm surprised Golden Cell still isn't a thing in like any of the extra Dragonball material.

We got Golden Cooler before Golden Cell 😭.
 
Its not impossible, but it is an uphill battle. Im rooting for the animators to pull it off

While I still have never seen anything from Sonic that has really wow'd me, I will say that the one thing I can give them is kudos for trying to give the franchise its own unqiue combat identity, its good shit
 
You know, I'm surprised Golden Cell still isn't a thing in like any of the extra Dragonball material.

We got Golden Cooler before Golden Cell 😭.
Funny how Cell Max was created yet its nothing like the original at all, so many fanfics about Cell return in super with nothing ever done of it in canon
 
Funny how Cell Max was created yet its nothing like the original at all, so many fanfics about Cell return in super with nothing ever done of it in canon
Even DA Cell can go Golden but just doesnt use it anymore lol so at least thats something

Cell Max is just... there
 
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Funny how Cell Max was created yet its nothing like the original at all, so many fanfics about Cell return in super with nothing ever done of it in canon
Some ppl say that the Movie was done in a way so that Gohan did not have his spotlight stolen (which is kinda why we never saw Adult gotenks in Super Heroes)

Like Imperfect Cell has a cool Bug Form and Perfect Cell is the most known

No one cared about Semi Perfect Cell, literally 0 fans
 
His only "Fans" were dokkan players in 2024 when he was good on release for a while

Other then that, I don't think he has any..

Atleast Imperfect Cell is Cool cuz of the Bug Design
I think because Semi-Perfect is just straight chopped. No aura, just ugly as hell and not in the good way.
 
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Latin / Spanish DB Fans were wild on this one

 
Latin / Spanish DB Fans were wild on this one

Dragon Ball fandom has unmatched shitposts
 
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