DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Doggo]

Its incredible how individuals find absurd ways to wank some verses just so they stand a better chance to others, if death battle actually goes same route, hearing universal YYH is gonna be a pain to hear around

I mean, Death Battle is guilty of this themselves lol

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

If they get uni stats, people will ride on that saying Hiei actually beats Sasuke

til they do the same for naruto

 

[Doggo]

Soooo.....apparently we got 5D DMC now

Rip Dante vs Clive

Vergil should win now

Nero stomps Hellboy harder

 

[Fezzih_007]

Soooo.....apparently we got 5D DMC now

Rip Dante vs Clive

Vergil should win now

Nero stomps Hellboy harder

Is the arguments for 5D good atleast? Because he stomps Bayonetta If we go by profiles now.

 

[Doggo]

Is the arguments for 5D good atleast? Because he stomps Bayonetta If we go by profiles now.

Idk I'm not into the verse

I remember something about a 5D bulk space or something

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

Is the arguments for 5D good atleast? Because he stomps Bayonetta If we go by profiles now.

im not familiar enough to know if the current profile arguments are good, but I have heard and seen quite a fair bit saying the higher dimensional stuff has been  very questionable.

 

[Epiccheev]

A singular dismantle is City Level+ lol.

If Sukuna was still around he'd be the one asking Yuji for power now lmao.

 

[Tipper17]

Soooo.....apparently we got 5D DMC now

Give it a couple months and it'll go back

 

[Tipper17]

so denji not winning his episode lmaooo

Eh he kinda does given the Michigan sword gets small country still unless gege does something that gets far higher than that

 

[Doggo]

Does he scale to the sword?

 

[Da3ggman]

Eh he kinda does given the Michigan sword gets small country still unless gege does something that gets far higher than that

Me when transmutation hax (they've never scaled to physicals in the slightest):

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Give it a couple months and it'll go back

Most staff that disagreed accepted them afterwards, also its apparently somewhat same vein as GOW tier 1

 

[Epiccheev]

Eh he kinda does given the Michigan sword gets small country still unless gege does something that gets far higher than that

Bruh, it's environmental destruction and hax. The actual sword at the very best only scales to that in dura.

 

[NotoriouSoda]

Eh he kinda does given the Michigan sword gets small country still unless gege does something that gets far higher than that

Tipper that shit is clearly haxs for Yoru and doesn’t scale to AP at all.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Plus Denji wouldn't scale given how all those weapons easily damage Pochita.

And after the whole moon hype thing turned out to be... not as exciting as people thought it would be, I feel y'all should start tampering your expectations with CSM future feats.

 

[Tipper17]

Most staff that disagreed accepted them afterwards, also its apparently somewhat same vein as GOW tier 1

So the keep whining until the staff hands it off to you case still works

Tipper that shit is clearly haxs for Yoru and doesn’t scale to AP at all.

Bruh, it's environmental destruction and hax. The actual sword at the very best only scales to that in dura.

ok so where do we place Denji

 

[Tipper17]

Plus Denji wouldn't scale given how all those weapons easily damage Pochita.

And after the whole moon hype thing turned out to be... not as exciting as people thought it would be, I feel y'all should start tampering your expectations with CSM future feats.

going to be real we might as well wait and see how both series are going to be done atp
Modulo has like 9 chapters left and idk if CSM going to end with part 2

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Is the arguments for 5D good atleast? Because he stomps Bayonetta If we go by profiles now.

Tbf Bayonetta is grossly outdated here. None of her feats, lore or scaling for her prequel game (Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon) were indexed here despite the game being nearly three years old and being critically acclaimed by both critics and the public alike (tho it didn't sell well at all, not even reaching the 1 million sales threshold globally partly due to being a 60 bucks spin-off and partly due to it doubling down on certain unpopular lore/narrative decisions).

Also most of her supporters, aren't active anymore butting heads with the DMC supporters probably tired them out.

If they get uni stats, people will ride on that saying Hiei actually beats Sasuke

Like I said I have no personal objections to this but I know with my bias aside, Sasuke wins with even moderate research.

Plus Denji wouldn't scale given how all those weapons easily damage Pochita.

And after the whole moon hype thing turned out to be... not as exciting as people thought it would be, I feel y'all should start tampering your expectations with CSM future feats.

I agree with this, moon to planet level CSM cope via Yoru possibly making a "moon sword" was silly. Don't even get me started on conformity gate with Stranger Things, it honestly feels like copium is like a virus spreading from one fandom to another.

 

[AnAverageUsername]

So the keep whining until the staff hands it off to you case still works



ok so where do we place Denji

Like, town? He got ****** up by the gun goddess and nuke punch, both of them only destroying a couple of city blocks (or looks that way for the latter).

 

[WeeklyBattles]

So testing the new Attack on Titan scaling has yielded some funny results

r/WWW is fully embracing it, while r/DBM thinks its somewhere between a massive joke and massive wank

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Is the arguments for 5D good atleast? Because he stomps Bayonetta If we go by profiles now.

Bayo currently scales to 6D, and her profile is SEVERELY outdated, including potentially 12D upgrades

 

[Detective_Blizzard]

I feel y'all should start tampering your expectations with CSM future feats.

I dont exactly blame them since the story just kept one-uping itself chapter after chapter. While the moon was ridiculous for an assumption, im pretty sure having entire US states and a nuke happening would've been equally as absurd before we saw it

 

[Fezzih_007]

Tbf Bayonetta is grossly outdated here

and her profile is SEVERELY outdated,

Yeah I get that. That's why I said If we go by profiles now. I curious If DMC 5D arguments actually hold until Bayonetta profile gets a upgrade.

Bayo currently scales to 6D

potentially 12D upgrades

Yeah, you said that. How much I believe depends on the arguments you gonna provide.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Soooo.....apparently we got 5D DMC now

Rip Dante vs Clive

Vergil should win now

Nero stomps Hellboy harder

Clive already had 5D arguments that were entertained by G1, alluded to by Death Battle and discussed in the FF16 thread (apparently the FF16 cosmology can reach L1-C via bulk space but until the lorebook finally comes out to clarify both the cosmology as well as the overall lore, Clive isn't getting indexed... yet. Just to be safe, the scaling targets will be L2-C to 2-C regardless of what the lorebook reveals unless all that cosmic stuff was indeed just in both Clive and Ultima's minds kek!)

Final Fantasy as a whole will likely be upgraded to L1-C (there were legit L1-A arguments but they died off a ages ago), so its still debatable on what DB would buy from both Sephiroth and Vergil (assuming they give our updated profiles the once over in the future).

Nero should honestly beat Hellboy no issues, like the amount of leeway Hellboy needs from crossovers to obscure sources to taking the highest interpretations of most statements just to possibly pull a Spawn is literal cope, let's be honest.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yeah, you said that. How much I believe depends on the arguments you gonna provide.

Its literally whats on her profile

 

[OrangeFR]

And no the spolier tag on this thread is not for general verse spoliers but for Death Battle episode outcomes and next time spoilers (especially back when members got to see the episode early and leak the results as well as the next MU before the YT release which was kinda scummy tbh).

Shit that brought me back to when Hulk vs Broly was coming out and I saw the death uploaded on yt early.

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Yeah I get that. That's why I said If we go by profiles now. I curious If DMC 5D arguments actually hold until Bayonetta profile gets a upgrade.

I mean they should? (unless the Wiki moves the goalpost for the umpteenth time). For the longest time I believed DMC is clearly a tier 1 verse and not because of dubious loading screens from PoC plus L1-C Dante just looks stylish to me.

Shit that brought me back to when Hulk vs Broly was coming out and I saw the death uploaded on yt early.

Yup I literally had to avoid the wiki, YT, Discord, etc like I was playing virtual dodge ball. This is why I occasionally like MUs for characters/franchises I have no stake in, since I don't have to care about spoilers.

 

[Epiccheev]

ok so where do we place Denji

Comfortably relativistic (Moon spear dodge) with physicals ranging from 7-C to 7-B (possibly 7-A highball if you go by the technicality he can harm aging devil physically).
Durability is somewhat inconsistent in the series considering characters on the same ballpark are easily goring eachother really badly with every hit.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yeah, you said that. How much I believe depends on the arguments you gonna provide.

As of Bayonetta 3, the cosmology of Bayonetta is as follows:

1. The Human Realms: A multiverse comprised of an infinite number of infinite-sized universes as well as realms like Muspelheim and Avalon which are also infinite in size.
2. The Ginnungagap: The space which contains this infinite multiverse and surpasses it in scope to the degree that the Human Realms existing within the Ginnungagap are compared to planets within the infinite universe.
3. Chaos: The sum total of the Ginnungagap and the Human Realms.
4. Paradiso and Inferno: The two sister realms to Chaos which are both equal to Chaos in size and scale and are described as being infinitely larger than the Human Realms in scope.
5. Purgatorio: The parallel reality which spans the sum total of Paradiso, Inferno, and Chaos.
6. The Trinity of Realities: The sum total of Paradiso, Inferno, Chaos, and Purgatorio.

All three of the final bosses of her games (Jubileus, Aesir, and Singularity) possessed the power to destroy the Trinity of Realities in its entirety, with both Jubileus and Aesir in the past withstanding the blast that split reality into the Trinity in the first place. Aesir also views the Human Worlds as works of fiction. Theres also stuff like her shattering the barrier surrounding the Gate of Hell, which was designed by Aesir to be able to withstand the Trinity being destroyed and remade.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Tbf Bayonetta is grossly outdated here. None of her feats, lore or scaling for her prequel game (Bayonetta Origins: Cereza and the Lost Demon) were indexed here despite the game being nearly three years old and being critically acclaimed by both critics and the public alike (tho it didn't sell well at all, not even reaching the 1 million sales threshold globally partly due to being a 60 bucks spin-off and partly due to it doubling down on certain unpopular lore/narrative decisions).

Also most of her supporters, aren't active anymore butting heads with the DMC supporters probably tired them out.

TFW theyve been unironically working on a revision for the past three years

Not sure whats taking them so long but it is being worked on

 

[Fezzih_007]

Its literally whats on her profile

Yeah, her profile only justify her being 5D for now.

As of Bayonetta 3, the cosmology of Bayonetta is as follows:

Snip

Oh now we talking

 

[Joycap]

As of Bayonetta 3, the cosmology of Bayonetta is as follows:

1. The Human Realms: A multiverse comprised of an infinite number of infinite-sized universes as well as realms like Muspelheim and Avalon which are also infinite in size.
2. The Ginnungagap: The space which contains this infinite multiverse and surpasses it in scope to the degree that the Human Realms existing within the Ginnungagap are compared to planets within the infinite universe.
3. Chaos: The sum total of the Ginnungagap and the Human Realms.
4. Paradiso and Inferno: The two sister realms to Chaos which are both equal to Chaos in size and scale and are described as being infinitely larger than the Human Realms in scope.
5. Purgatorio: The parallel reality which spans the sum total of Paradiso, Inferno, and Chaos.
6. The Trinity of Realities: The sum total of Paradiso, Inferno, Chaos, and Purgatorio.

All three of the final bosses of her games (Jubileus, Aesir, and Singularity) possessed the power to destroy the Trinity of Realities in its entirety, with both Jubileus and Aesir in the past withstanding the blast that split reality into the Trinity in the first place. Aesir also views the Human Worlds as works of fiction. Theres also stuff like her shattering the barrier surrounding the Gate of Hell, which was designed by Aesir to be able to withstand the Trinity being destroyed and remade.

"Thing has more infinities than the thing that has more infinities than it"

This is why I hate modern cosmology scaling with a bloody passion...

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

As of Bayonetta 3, the cosmology of Bayonetta is as follows:

1. The Human Realms: A multiverse comprised of an infinite number of infinite-sized universes as well as realms like Muspelheim and Avalon which are also infinite in size.
2. The Ginnungagap: The space which contains this infinite multiverse and surpasses it in scope to the degree that the Human Realms existing within the Ginnungagap are compared to planets within the infinite universe.
3. Chaos: The sum total of the Ginnungagap and the Human Realms.
4. Paradiso and Inferno: The two sister realms to Chaos which are both equal to Chaos in size and scale and are described as being infinitely larger than the Human Realms in scope.
5. Purgatorio: The parallel reality which spans the sum total of Paradiso, Inferno, and Chaos.
6. The Trinity of Realities: The sum total of Paradiso, Inferno, Chaos, and Purgatorio.

All three of the final bosses of her games (Jubileus, Aesir, and Singularity) possessed the power to destroy the Trinity of Realities in its entirety, with both Jubileus and Aesir in the past withstanding the blast that split reality into the Trinity in the first place. Aesir also views the Human Worlds as works of fiction. Theres also stuff like her shattering the barrier surrounding the Gate of Hell, which was designed by Aesir to be able to withstand the Trinity being destroyed and remade.

All this to still get trounced by Geats and Angela

 

[BlackDarkness679]

So the keep whining until the staff hands it off to you case still works

Not really, it was clarified how and why from the arguments for tier 1 till they were like "huh, okay I get it now"

I mentioned gow cuz apparently the two were sorta similar in reasonings as well, normal users pointed it out iirc

 

[Tipper17]

Not really, it was clarified how and why from the arguments for tier 1 till they were like "huh, okay I get it now"

I mentioned gow cuz apparently the two were sorta similar in reasonings as well, normal users pointed it out iirc

Regardless not buying it

 

[WeeklyBattles]

All this to still get trounced by Geats and Angela

This is just the current cosmology, the updated one is likely to end up somewhere between 12D and Outerversal

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

"Thing has more infinities than the thing that has more infinities than it"

This is why I hate modern cosmology scaling with a bloody passion...

Now apply that modern cosmology scaling to hax potency and layers.

I'll be more than happy to buy a ticket on the hate train too...

 

[AnAverageUsername]

Now apply that modern cosmology scaling to hax potency and layers.

I'll be more than happy to buy a ticket on the hate train too...

Castlevania

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

 

[Dust_Collector]