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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

The fact that they aren't actually MFTL+ and that was made up for the JJBA memelords who spam ora ora and muda muda in peoples' comment sections.
"Faster than the speed of light through sheer speed!" - actual line describing a character who can literally only punch, whom is also stated to be faster than a character, who is stated sol, thrice.
 
I mean I dont particularly agree with MFTL jojo but even then im of the mind that they are still quite faster than demon slayer. Like the light based feats just just go away, I just think that based on consistency and statements that a very solid relativistic fits the gand bulk of top tiers.
-1000 respect for this
 
"Faster than the speed of light through sheer speed!" - actual line describing a character who can literally only punch, whom is also stated to be faster than a character, who is stated sol, thrice.
You couldn't do shit about Legend of Zelda for years and now you expect this to be the part where I start believing in you?
 
Isnt the real issue that most stands only move around 2 meters from Stand user? Practically real Lightspeed movement seems like it shouldnt work in fight.
 
Hey I didn't say I argue against it or think less of people who do, I just don't think every stand under the god-damn sun should be massively faster than Hanged Man
Did anyone say this? Only people at the level of Chariot are.

Now, Part 3 Stands are very explicitly fast compared to the rest, Part 4/6 is fraudulent asf, especially given how a rusty Jotaro in Part 4 is still far above the SoL RCHP.
Hanged Man when his entire thing is that he's so unbelievably fast
Compared to Polnareff himself, not his Stand. The Ebony fight proved he kinda can't see through Chariot unlike Jotaro.
 
You couldn't do shit about Legend of Zelda for years and now you expect this to be the part where I start believing in you?
**[ Said to have unmatched speed (Part 3-5)]<ref name=“JoJoGoGo-Plat1>JoJo-A-GoGo: Star Platinum Section Page 1</ref>
**[ Demonstrates first-class speed (Part 3-5)]<ref name=“JoJoGoGo-Plat2>JoJo-A-GoGo: Star Platinum Section Page 2</ref>
**[ Number 1 Stand in speed as of 1999 (Up to chapter 27 of Part 4)]<ref name=“DIU27>Diamond is Unbreakable Chapter 27</ref>
***[ Said to be number 1 in speed as of 1999 (Up to chapter 64 of Part 4)<ref name=“JoJo6251-142>JoJo 6251: Page 142</ref>
**[ Able to exceed the speed of light through sheer speed]<ref name=“SO19”>Stone Ocean Chapter 19</ref>
 
Isnt the real issue that most stands only move around 2 meters from Stand user? Practically real Lightspeed movement seems like it shouldnt work in fight.
Its only stands moving that fast not like the stand user since they don't travel fast at all for the most part
 
No I'm not making that look nice, read the manga.
For what? A bunch of stands I've seen people argue MFTL stuff for don't even have that standard applied to them for our pages and I don't disagree with the real top brass of the verse exceeding it.
They aren't, where have you been? Only Part's 3 and 5 are, Part's 4, 6, 7, 8, 9 aren't outside of like extremely few outliers (think TA4, compared to a low mach TA1). And only the notably fast Stands in the aforementioned parts are, a bunch of Stands in Part 3-5 aren't, even some main ones like Hierophant Green.

If only about 5% of Stands actually scale above HM, complaining otherwise is just odd.
 
Compared to Polnareff himself, not his Stand. The Ebony fight proved he kinda can't see through Chariot unlike Jotaro.
Once again, I am not arguing on the validity of it. I'm simply stating that the bar for it should be high and not something that bloody Wheel of Fortune should be getting or Aerosmith.
 
They aren't, where have you been? Only Part's 3 and 5 are, Part's 4, 6, 7, 8, 9 aren't outside of like extremely few outliers (think TA4, compared to a low mach TA1). And only the notably fast Stands in the aforementioned parts are, a bunch of Stands in Part 3-5 aren't, even some main ones like Hierophant Green.

If only about 5% of Stands actually scale above HM, complaining otherwise is just odd.
Chariot, I'm saying I agree with the wiki for the most part on the speed stuff. It's them that saying I lost their respect because I don't think MOST stands should have MFTL
 
For what? A bunch of stands I've seen people argue MFTL stuff for don't even have that standard applied to them for our pages and I don't disagree with the real top brass of the verse exceeding it.
The way you worded it you seemed like one of those individuals saying there aint any MFTL characters
 
Chariot, I'm saying I agree with the wiki for the most part on the speed stuff. It's them that saying I lost their respect because I don't think MOST stands should have MFTL
Oh well yeah most aren't, only the actual top speedy dudes like Plat, King Crimson, and those who can contend, most vary between like transonic to MHS+, with a few rels in there and a single sub-rel.
And randomly PM and Dio dudes who blitz tf out of some Stands anyway like Dio mogs HG.
 
even some main ones like Hierophant Green.
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I will give my boy Kak justice, I promise.
 
The way you worded it you seemed like one of those individuals saying there aint any MFTL characters
God no, I specifically said after the first paragraph you quoted

Excluding very obvious exceptions to the normal rules of course. But thats the 0.1% of stands
Stands like SP, no shit they are. Polareff being speed amped several times was still stated by Jotaro to still not be faster than it. I just remember the era where people tried arguing MFTL to literally everything
 
this is all because of DS slop
Eh I'll just publish a MG placeholder blog today, get someone to eval it and drop Raiden in like a day, personally I'm not satisfied with Raiden yet, was working on some calcs and a skill chain and getting those scenario book translated but we really gotta push DS up on the to do list. I'll just make a Raiden clean up CRT after for the missing stuff later after DS because this shit has gone on long enough.
 
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