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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

He got scaled from Cynthia who did manage to compare with the CT, though.
DB actually black boxed that Palkia just cancelled Garchomp's attack. So they likely didnt really.

Giving full CT scaling from that feels generous indeed. Not like we scale Krillin to SSB Goku... right?

...Without True Arceus, what even is Poke Cosmology's Ds? Ive seen Reddit argue Ultra Space makes its 7D or sth sth. Are there blatant higher dimensions that arent related to Arceus?
 
Your life must be miserable if you need to compare this not gonna lie
Honestly I went to check the comparison because it genuinely interested me and if it was a competition then Yugioh would be running circles.

Pokemon has 294 episodes on YouTube, Yugioh's site goes all the way to episode 49 of  Zexal. That's 609 episodes which is frankly insane
 
DB actually black boxed that Palkia just cancelled Garchomp's attack. So they likely didnt really.
(EDIT: No im wrong actually) I mean tbf thats wrong, it was the other way around iirc. Cynthia used Draco Meteor to cancel out Spacial Rend, and then Roar of Time actually overpowered the three other Pokemon at the time. It wasnt the other legendary (who were under Cyrus' control and going berserk) who merely reacted to their attacks

At the same time, the Anime obviously follows its own logic and the Creation Trio didnt show nearly as many feats to scale them as other games did. This wiki just catches itself too much in the compositing and scales the games and the anime as one when...they very clearly work differently even if theyre in the same multiverse.
 
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Someone posted the full clip a week ago and it did show Cynthia had her Gachomp attack first and then Palkia attacked to cancel it out.
Nvm yeah im wrong abt that then. Palkia did it in response to Draco Meteor

I think the proof there though is that Draco Meteor and Spacial Rend properly cancelled out, while Roar of Time overpowered Pikachu, Piplup and Croagunk together, whom then needed the Lake Trio to defend against.
So that at least shows there was a writing decision made that Cynthia's Garchomp didnt need all that to block a comparable attack.
 
Sorry I legitimately did not mean to come off as disrespectful.
I didn't think you did, it just came off that way because the subject matter and the way you worded it.
I was trying to convey it matter of factly that because the creator’s passing no more new content can be made meaning that by extension the series is dead/in limbo.
I personally did not see that meaning in your post, but fair enough.
I once again apologize for saying that quip so flippantly.
Apology accepted, but please don't joke about something like that so flippantly again.
 
DB actually black boxed that Palkia just cancelled Garchomp's attack. So they likely didnt really.

Giving full CT scaling from that feels generous indeed. Not like we scale Krillin to SSB Goku... right?

...Without True Arceus, what even is Poke Cosmology's Ds? Ive seen Reddit argue Ultra Space makes its 7D or sth sth. Are there blatant higher dimensions that arent related to Arceus?
Yeah, if you watch that scene it looks less like a clash and more like Dialga and Palkia easily countering Ash and his companions' combined offense. It's Cynthia who attacks first, Cyrus answers with Palkia and, despite the hype that Cynthia's Garchomp matched Palkia, it's the Spatial Rend that just busts through the Draco Meteor (look at it frame by frame).

EDIT: Nevermind
 
DB actually black boxed that Palkia just cancelled Garchomp's attack. So they likely didnt really.
Yeah, that's my take on this whole 'where DB scales Ash' thing.

They pointed out that Palkia actually cancelled out the attack, not the other way around. Which means Ash then doesn't get generous CT scaling due to chain scaling to someone's Pokemon that stopped a single attack from an avatar of one of the CT. I don't think they believe that Pokemon is drastically less multiversal or whatnot compared to YGO, it's that Ash doesn't scale to those heights where Yugi does. Yugi has the power enough to summon and use the power of his multiverse's creation god, where Ash has never once shown the ability to match his own setting's equivalent.

And to say this episode disrespected Ash when it gave him more of a love letter and respect on his name than most Poketuber creators do is quite frankly insane. Losing the fight isn't automatically disrespecting the opponent. Hell DC had all but forgotten about Kyle Rayner and DB gave him his best animated version around.
 
I don't even get what he is even saying in that one honestly.
He's basically saying that because I praised how much Yugioh content is freely avaliable (the Yugioh site has 609 english episodes for FREE) that im disrespecting Pokémon by not going absolutely wild for also having a lot of English episodes on YouTube (294).

Like I didnt even compare the two, I was just shocked by the Yugioh count
 
He's basically saying that because I praised how much Yugioh content is freely avaliable (the Yugioh site has 609 english episodes for FREE) that im disrespecting Pokémon by not going absolutely wild for also having a lot of English episodes on YouTube (294).

Like I didnt even compare the two, I was just shocked by the Yugioh count
You should look at his comments in the Zelda discussion thread, me and Chariot had a brief talk about some of Ganondorfs powers and Sean ranted about how we hated Hyrule Warriors for daring to say some of the stuff on his profile like "rolling into a ball" wasn't legit.
 
He's basically saying that because I praised how much Yugioh content is freely avaliable (the Yugioh site has 609 english episodes for FREE) that im disrespecting Pokémon by not going absolutely wild for also having a lot of English episodes on YouTube (294).

Like I didnt even compare the two, I was just shocked by the Yugioh count
I am mad that Zexal is the only series that did not get an official sub on Crunchyroll unlike the other series, because the dub is exactly why the american fandom shittalks of my goat Yuma constantly.
 
You should look at his comments in the Zelda discussion thread, me and Chariot had a brief talk about some of Ganondorfs powers and Sean ranted about how we hated Hyrule Warriors for daring to say some of the stuff on his profile like "rolling into a ball" wasn't legit.
I think im good lol, actively trying to look into hate isn't healthy for anyone. I'll just stick in my corner until I have an opportunity to rant about Lupin III
 
He's basically saying that because I praised how much Yugioh content is freely avaliable (the Yugioh site has 609 english episodes for FREE) that im disrespecting Pokémon by not going absolutely wild for also having a lot of English episodes on YouTube (294).

Like I didnt even compare the two, I was just shocked by the Yugioh count
I didn’t mention an amount of episodes. In fact Pokemon TV living on on Youtube is a relatively new thing.
 
This DB was funny. Also one of the few I've actually liked.

I imagine they limited Dialga scaling to being Universal based on stuff like there being a Dialga for each Universe. The reasonings for Dialga being 2-A on the profile are extremely weak since Cyrus says "reality" which very easily can be interpreted as "the Universe" and given we know what happens when he wins, it clearly isn't the Infinite Pokemon Multiverse.

Reason being, we see the Rainbow Rocket leaders all show up and they're the versions of the Villains who all won (or the MCs just didn't exist in their Universes) and Cyrus got his wish, even having Dialga/Palkia depending on your game version.

Soooo, I think it's probably the more reasonable stance to see the weakened Avatar of Dialga being Uni+ and not scaling to the full True Form Dialga who would exist across all of Time everywhere in the Multiverse.
 
You should look at his comments in the Zelda discussion thread, me and Chariot had a brief talk about some of Ganondorfs powers and Sean ranted about how we hated Hyrule Warriors for daring to say some of the stuff on his profile like "rolling into a ball" wasn't legit.
And of course even more shit I didn’t do. The most fraudulent Zelda debaters on this site start ******** on Hyrule Warriors again and of course I’m evil for pointing out everything they’re doing.
 
I didn’t mention an amount of episodes. In fact Pokemon TV living on on Youtube is a relatively new thing.
At no point did I say you did, I said you complained that I complimented something without immediately going to praise something else.

I said the episode count because i actually went to see what the difference was because it interested me, because I knew having every episode up to partial Zexal was A LOT but I didnt know the exact amount
 
This DB was funny. Also one of the few I've actually liked.

I imagine they limited Dialga scaling to being Universal based on stuff like there being a Dialga for each Universe. The reasonings for Dialga being 2-A on the profile are extremely weak since Cyrus says "reality" which very easily can be interpreted as "the Universe" and given we know what happens when he wins, it clearly isn't the Infinite Pokemon Multiverse.

Reason being, we see the Rainbow Rocket leaders all show up and they're the versions of the Villains who all won (or the MCs just didn't exist in their Universes) and Cyrus got his wish, even having Dialga/Palkia depending on your game version.

Soooo, I think it's probably the more reasonable stance to see the weakened Avatar of Dialga being Uni+ and not scaling to the full True Form Dialga who would exist across all of Time everywhere in the Multiverse.
I mean they differentiated the anime from the games, and I think they glossed over Cynthia's Garchomp not being a full block of the attack anyway as benefit of the doubt, so do with that information what you will.
 
I mean they differentiated the anime from the games, and I think they glossed over Cynthia's Garchomp not being a full block of the attack anyway as benefit of the doubt, so do with that information what you will.
They mention in a black box why it shouldn't scale
 
I mean they differentiated the anime from the games, and I think they glossed over Cynthia's Garchomp not being a full block of the attack anyway as benefit of the doubt, so do with that information what you will.
Well, it's more that, this is the background lore. It's still all the same Multiverse after all, otherwise Dialga would actually just default to Uni+ to Low Multi at best
 
At no point did I say you did, I said you complained that I complimented something without immediately going to praise something else.

I said the episode count because i actually went to see what the difference was because it interested me, because I knew having every episode up to partial Zexal was A LOT but I didnt know the exact amount
And of course by sheer force of habit you accidentally compared it directly to Pokemon again.
 
And of course even more shit I didn’t do. The most fraudulent Zelda debaters on this site start ******** on Hyrule Warriors again and of course I’m evil for pointing out everything they’re doing.
We said a third of the abilities he currently had shouldn't be there and that he's missing like 20 abilities he does have and you started getting mad at the first part and started calling us haters because of it. This wasn't even that long ago and you've even got direct warning from a staff member multiple times in that thread for your behavior. Cut out the victim complex dude.
 
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