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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Also I love how time wizard isn't even yugi's only time ability. Stuff like clock card does the same thing, time seal locks ash in a timestop, and life shaver...is weird
 
Also I love how time wizard isn't even yugi's only time ability. Stuff like clock card does the same thing, time seal locks ash in a timestop, and life shaver...is weird
Every time I hear about more broken af haxes Yugi has, it makes me wonder how there can be any tension or suspense in the show at all😭
 
Every time I hear about more broken af haxes Yugi has, it makes me wonder how there can be any tension or suspense in the show at all😭
A mix of his opponents also having stuff just as broken, yugi not always being the one dueling, and the opponent putting him at an unfair disadvantage such as holding one of his friends hostage
 
Given how fiction treats these things, prolly doesnt use these powers as often or holds back just to flex his win without these
 
Every time I hear about more broken af haxes Yugi has, it makes me wonder how there can be any tension or suspense in the show at all😭
Everything being resolved with a friggin card game. For children!

Jokes aside, in the earlier chapters when Atem stepped in usually meant the villain of the week was already done for, but when it left the episodic format and went for longer arcs YGO actually works kinda like as sports anime. The antagonists usually setup their plans in ways they are in an unreachable position so Yugi can't just go and Shadow Game them or Joey can't just beat them up, you have to win their tournament or event first. Helps that sometimes there was a personal stake that made the protags need to participate, in Duelist Kingdom Joey needed to win the prize money to help his sister. Also, at least in the original, many bad guys had shadow magic of their own so they could fight back if Yugi went for a straight up fight. Funnily, in one arc two bad guys, Yami Bakura and Yami Marik, were at odds and they actually they tried fighting each other with their dark magic, but realized they were matched so they went and settled it in a duel.
 
Honestly, I'm torn on this one. Aside the obvious of the premise itself of seeing one of two childhood heroes dying, I'm not too keen on the fraud allegations flaring up for either Ash or Yugi. Took Ash like 15 years of career to get any sort of respect from the fandom and the meme of Yugi being a cheater became an actual agenda for fans of other protags and especially Kaiba fans bitter he never defeated Yugi

Kaiba, the rival of the original YGO series, was notable for being a super rich, scientific genius and CEO of one of the biggest companies in the world. He also was a socipath who even after his development, remained a petty and immature asshole whose fragile ego actually drove the second big tournament of the story, which he started solely to get the 3 strongest cards in the game and defeat Yugi, not out of respect or competition, but rather revenge for losing to begin with, and was perfectly fine with letting a cult and terrorist group run around unimpended if it meant getting the frigging piece of cardboard. His development through the tournament is actually to let go of his grudges and acknowledge but also let go of his past and accept some thing won't go away.

With time has become a non-ironic idol for a good part of the fandom for his "aura", "flow" and "money", essentially an unintentional figure that's adored in a similar way to those "trillionare alpha pilled red male" streamers that give advice while in a jacuzzi on an expensive car, while smoking and drinking alongside several models. So they can't stand the idea that another dude one-upped Kaiba and he never got payback. Kaiba always had this "I don't need anyone because I'm better than everyone" attitude, which isn't exactly true, but that whole bravado with his legitimate coolness and the entitlement of whinning for the single thing he never could get in life (that being thee King of Games title Yugi got by being the best duelist) is enough for many, and I say many fans, to accuse Atem of winning and taking Kaiba's deserved title only because of plot armor, cheating, author favoritism and yadda yadda. This is despite Atem's plays are the way everyone, Kaiba included duels in the first series, given the rules of the real life game weren't set in stone yet.

Yes, I'm angry about this whole deal. I think I came across the fourth video in the last few days that talks about the original YGO series on an unrelated topic but ends up becoming a rant on how Kaiba deserved this or that and other people are jerks because Kaiba didn't get it. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy and his deck, Blue Eyes, got me back into the game after retiring for a couple of years, but this whole thing gets grating.
 
Kaiba, the rival of the original YGO series, was notable for being a super rich, scientific genius and CEO of one of the biggest companies in the world. He also was a socipath who even after his development, remained a petty and immature asshole whose fragile ego actually drove the second big tournament of the story, which he started solely to get the 3 strongest cards in the game and defeat Yugi, not out of respect or competition, but rather revenge for losing to begin with, and was perfectly fine with letting a cult and terrorist group run around unimpended if it meant getting the frigging piece of cardboard. His development through the tournament is actually to let go of his grudges and acknowledge but also let go of his past and accept some thing won't go away.

With time has become a non-ironic idol for a good part of the fandom for his "aura", "flow" and "money", essentially an unintentional figure that's adored in a similar way to those "trillionare alpha pilled red male" streamers that give advice while in a jacuzzi on an expensive car, while smoking and drinking alongside several models. So they can't stand the idea that another dude one-upped Kaiba and he never got payback. Kaiba always had this "I don't need anyone because I'm better than everyone" attitude, which isn't exactly true, but that whole bravado with his legitimate coolness and the entitlement of whinning for the single thing he never could get in life (that being thee King of Games title Yugi got by being the best duelist) is enough for many, and I say many fans, to accuse Atem of winning and taking Kaiba's deserved title only because of plot armor, cheating, author favoritism and yadda yadda. This is despite Atem's plays are the way everyone, Kaiba included duels in the first series, given the rules of the real life game weren't set in stone yet.

Yes, I'm angry about this whole deal. I think I came across the fourth video in the last few days that talks about the original YGO series on an unrelated topic but ends up becoming a rant on how Kaiba deserved this or that and other people are jerks because Kaiba didn't get it. Don't get me wrong, I love the guy and his deck, Blue Eyes, got me back into the game after retiring for a couple of years, but this whole thing gets grating.
He's just like Vergil
 
Seeing that Yugi might actually take physicals after all the years of 'lol Ash can just punch him and end the fight instantly' is a little cathartic ngl. Nothing really against Ash as I grew up with Pokemon and I loved how they adapted my favorite region (Sun/Moon) but seeing the Pokeverse getting fraud checked this weekend will be awesome (potentially)

Just hope that DB can deliver on this one after a stretch of matches that have just been meh or worse the past few episodes for me personally.
He doesn't take physicals at all. DB is for sure giving that category to Ash.
 
He doesn't take physicals at all. DB is for sure giving that category to Ash.
I think he kind of does though? Like Yugi scales to Yubel and her multi-dimensional feats pretty handily and clear cut, he tanked a blast from Winged Dragon of Ra, the various Armors and stuff he can have on top of scaling to the actual monsters gets him up there. Now granted I'm that highly attuned to the specifics of this matchup due to only passing interest, but from what I'm seeing I think if anything DB would have them equal there.
 
I mean ash may be able to beat time wizard if he works really fast.
Its time manipulation range isn't universal in scope and seemingly only affects a certain radius. Combined with its windup time before it actually attacks, it leads credence that most of Ash's team could dodge around it and find some way to take it out and that its not a guaranteed instant-win.

- While Yugi CAN bring it back if he needs to Ash could easily destroy it each time depending on how big the stat gap they'll put it at.

- Similarly it's not immune to any of Ash's forms of hax such as BFR into Ultra Space, getting confused, charmed, paralyzed, slept, or frozen. Yugi notably doesn't have a way of undoing these aforementioned status effects.
 
I mean ash may be able to beat time wizard if he works really fast.
Its time manipulation range isn't universal in scope and seemingly only affects a certain radius. Combined with its windup time before it actually attacks, it leads credence that most of Ash's team could dodge around it and find some way to take it out and that its not a guaranteed instant-win.

- While Yugi CAN bring it back if he needs to Ash could easily destroy it each time depending on how big the stat gap they'll put it at.

- Similarly it's not immune to any of Ash's forms of hax such as BFR into Ultra Space, getting confused, charmed, paralyzed, slept, or frozen. Yugi notably doesn't have a way of undoing these aforementioned status effects.

Yugi has this as well

All the benefits of Time Wizard without any of the drawbacks as its a spell, not a monster
 
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I love the idea behind Agent Anti-Venom vs Bakugo but holy ****, this fight is not fair no matter how you look at it. Either Bakugo stomps him with his consistent scaling or Agent Anti-Venom gets his Dragon Form and reverses the stomp even harder.
 
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