DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[Rayfire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/deathbattle/s/RXyEo5XNHK

 

[NotoriouSoda]

Never watched RWBY truly but all the talk about its bad writing makes me almost feel sorry for it :V

It really is definition of wasted potential

 

[Fezzih_007]

How?

Basically, Killua completely speed blitz Akame, and his lighting dura neg her to dust.

Not so basically:

Spoiler: Spoilers from the blog

ADVANTAGES:

Far faster than Akame in all types of speed;
Absolutely way more versatile and unpredictable;
Has slliiiiiiiiightly more experience, has the better training, better hand-to-hand combat skills and he has more combat intelligence due to his versatile powers and applications
Less likely to run out of energy in Godspeed;
Can counter all of Akame’s stealth attempts thanks to his sharp senses, En and Gyo;
It’s likely that his Rhythm Echo can’t be countered;
Lightning would weaken Akame, making the stat-stomp non-existent anymore, and his lightning would also negate any kind of boosting or regeneration Akame would have at her disposal;
Has way better mobility and most of all, way more AOE in his attacks, while Akame doesn’t really have any AOE attacks;
His lightning and Nen applications would block and negate Murasame’s curse, therefore there’s no way he gets one-shotted;
Definitely can beat Akame in her base form;
Hunter × Hunter has TWO peak anime adaptions;
Drip asf.

DISADVANTAGES:

Gets physically stomped by Akame at her peak directly, not even Godspeed or Overgear could make up for that gap;
Akame can hold off the paralysis inducement with drugs
Not fully immune to the Murasame curse.
Can’t wield Murasame and use it against Akame
One false move and that curse is seeping in
His story will never end (Togashi will never lock in).


This was an incredibly close matchup, I’d have to say Killua takes this on an extreme difficulty. The big thing that carries him in this fight is his speed and his unique powerset which is very overwhelming for poor Akame. Well, not very poor, her statstomping stats would mean that she always had to hit Killua once. But as said earlier, Killua has so many ways of preventing that. Godspeed’s autopiloted instinct, faster reaction speed, range, being tough as hell and enhancing himself with Nen, but also the fact that… She only stomps with drugs and Little War Horn, which Killua can prevent her from using or negating that with the other applications of his electricity.

Killua also just has so many ways of getting through the curse in general, thanks to his poison resistance getting up to magic/aura levels, his courage, and also through Godspeed and post mortem Nen. Also, he could just stitch up his wound with his own hair to slow down the spread. Easy as. Though he isn’t fully immune, he can hold it off long enough to win the fight and go see a Nen Exorcist after.

Like every cut matters for Akame, every move in a Nen fight matters, and since Killua has more tricks up his sleeve, Killua just has many more ways to win more times than not. Afterimages? Killua uses En/Gyo to track Akame’s movements. Drugs and stat-stomping Little War Horn? Killua can prevent those from being used with his electricity. The Murasame curse? Killua’s electricity is, yet again, the perfect counter for the situation, along with his layered poison resistance and courage. Also, speaking of, Akame is pretty much… outclassed without the sword. If Killua happened to toss it far away with his Yo-Yo’s, Akame is done for. Now Akame has some tactics of her own, like tracking one’s steps and movements, taunting rangers to get close, reflecting attacks, and waiting for people to use her sword when they shouldn’t. But most of what Akame can think of, Killua has many logic jumps ahead. Literally he could do any tactic Akame could do but better, and not like he would be able to get tricked when he could notice things on a subconscious level or run accurate simulations through his head. Also, taunting rangers to get in close? Killua isn’t gonna range TOO much, especially when he's got fast enough reaction speed to dodge Akame’s swings. Attack reflection? Why reflect electricity at someone who can get empowered by it? Y’all get it.

If you wanted to argue that she’d get the stat boosts anyway or somehow, Killua can create weak points with electricity just by blitzing and harming her cells and aura, and also he can use Ren to force her to lower her guard and defenses, or trick her into a false sense of security by making her think he is dead (and he can seal his intention with Zetsu, btw). Killua has so many ways of catching Akame offguard, that he could kill her even with the stat gap.

Akame’s massively higher strength at her peak, deadly Murasame/Kiriicihimonji and absurd durability made Killua fight for his life! If Killua wasn’t careful, he would have lost, but with thanks to his assassin and hunter training, relativistic speed quick action and thinking skills, and extremely versatile lightning, he had many more win conditions to choose from, taking the victory on an extreme difficulty.
Looks like Akame gat Kill(ua)ed.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Werent the accusations against Vic proven false too?

All I know is the girl who started it - MarzGurl - helped hide JewWario's sleeping with underage girls and did the disasterous ChannelAwesome Doc. So, I am not going to take her words at face value.

 

[Joycap]

Werent the accusations against Vic proven false too?

Morally yes. But KV continue to assert their self-righteousness because Rial et al abused the TCPA to get the case dismissed, and for some reason that counts as 'guilt' on Vic's part despite no announcement of guilt or innocence (I.E: this case got prej'd without a trial), Ty Beard being clumsy at best and committing malpractice at worst, and a judge presiding over the case just being insufferably bloody lazy.

Apparently Rial/Toye also missed their deadlines in the same way Toye ended up doing, but that doesn't matter to KV and 'Threadnaught' types delusional enough to believe Musk was somehow in on it (3-5 years before Elon Musk was somehow relevant, might I add). These people wouldn't know the difference between civil and criminal courts if it fell over them in the street.

 

[Joycap]

All I know is the girl who started it - MarzGurl - helped hide JewWario's sleeping with underage girls and did the disasterous ChannelAwesome Doc. So, I am not going to take her words at face value.

This. To say nothing of her 11hr hit piece that achieves nothing and boils down to 'Vic bad, here, throw your money at a charity that only benefits from the existence of violations that we claim to fight while we cook the books'

 

[AthelChan]

If RWBY was 8-C, I would 100% put Ruby Rose up against John Fartattack():

In that thread, I will describe in great detail how a point blank poonami from John Fartattack (

)will fill up your her eye sockets/mouth due to being unavoidable in melee range. Because of this, the various gut bacteria from John Fartattack(

)'s GI track will take crawl in her eye sockets and upper digestive track where they shouldn't be, wreaking havoc on her internally. This will blind her and make her struggle to even breathe. Ruby Rose will be left crippled by gut bacteria and traumatized by a single cabbage-powered special ability from John Fartattack (

). This a fight that she wouldn't lose due to being physically bested, but a fight they would willingly throw out of shame and disgust. Not a single poop hammer strike nor' blowout from John Fartattack(

) would be needed for him to win. You are very fortunate John Fartattack(

) is not 8-B.

John deep is 8-B, lets do it

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

All I know is the girl who started it - MarzGurl - helped hide JewWario's sleeping with underage girls and did the disasterous ChannelAwesome Doc. So, I am not going to take her words at face value.

That sure is a name.

 

[TartaChocholate]

All I know is the girl who started it - MarzGurl - helped hide JewWario's sleeping with underage girls and did the disasterous ChannelAwesome Doc. So, I am not going to take her words at face value.

I thought it was started by Obsucurus Lupa?

 

[NotoriouSoda]

All I know is the girl who started it - MarzGurl - helped hide JewWario's sleeping with underage girls and did the disasterous ChannelAwesome Doc. So, I am not going to take her words at face value.

WAIT THATS REAL?!

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

That sure is a name.

WAIT THATS REAL?!

Yep:

 

[BlackDarkness679]

It really is definition of wasted potential

Or how a youtuber called 4th snake i believe calls it on some characters in a series, wasted plotential

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

I'm gonna drop the convo here, so this doesn't become a Channel Awesome Thread. If any of you want know more about the shit people got up to I reccomend Mister Metokur's Channel Awesome Videos. He covers them pretty well. If any of you are wondering about Doug - Nostalgia Critic - he really didn't do anything.

 

[AthelChan]

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

To be fair, that first one isn't Mind Control, it outright says Possession.

 

[Tipper17]

Or how a youtuber called 4th snake i believe calls it on some characters in a series, wasted plotential

oh you watched him too

 

[Joycap]

To be fair, that first one isn't Mind Control, it outright says Possession.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that sounds like a distinction without a difference.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but that sounds like a distinction without a difference.

His body is being stolen and piloted against his will while the other is ******* with his mental state.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

oh you watched him too

Not all, but seen a bunch of vids from him

 

[Tipper17]

 

[OrangeFR]

It doesn't matter, Yugi stil gets blitzed and oneshot

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

The discourse surrounding RWBY has gotten so bad, that most of its fandom has been pretty much divided into two extreme factions for years now:

*The toxic positivity echo chamber that can't take any form of serious criticism of the show, will harass/cancel content creators that don't blindly enjoy the show or like "problematic" characters (e.g Adam, Ironwood, Crow-Vic, etc), sees RWBY as a "proud beacon" for LGBT+ represention but not for PoC represention lol! and will call you a "....phobe" if you don't like any of the official ships and/or certain popluar characters

*The cynical sunken cost critics that constantly moan about the "wasted potential" of RWBY but can never move on to better franchises (knowing full well RWBY won't be as great as they wished), will attack those who enjoy the show inspite of it's flaws and will nitpick every single frame of an episode just to prove how badly written and animated the show is yet still continue to watch it because they just have to see it "end".

Also both sides are gulity for weaponizing Monty's legacy to feed their own agendas while being disrespectful to the VAs.

If anything seeing a fandom cannibalised itself with shipping wars, R34 and all manor of controversies with RT/CRWBY is fascinating to witness.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

This is why I want a RWBY Reboot

 

[OrangeFR]

RWBY always just seemed kinda mid to me, it never looked that interesting.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Remember this lmaooo

This shit was honestly the predecessor to Omni-Man Vs Bardock.

 

[OrangeFR]

This shit was honestly the predecessor to Omni-Man Vs Bardock.

Omni Man vs Bardock was karma for Hulk vs Broly

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Tipper17]

The discourse surrounding RWBY has gotten so bad, that most of its fandom has been pretty much divided into two extreme factions for years now:

*The toxic positivity echo chamber that can't take any form of serious criticism of the show, will harass/cancel content creators that don't blindly enjoy the show or like "problematic" characters (e.g Adam, Ironwood, Crow-Vic, etc), sees RWBY as a "proud beacon" for LGBT+ represention but not for PoC represention lol! and will call you a "....phobe" if you don't like any of the official ships and/or certain popluar characters

*The cynical sunken cost critics that constantly moan about the "wasted potential" of RWBY but can never move on to better franchises (knowing full well RWBY won't be as great as they wished), will attack those who enjoy the show inspite of it's flaws and will nitpick every single frame of an episode just to prove how badly written and animated the show is yet still continue to watch it because they just have to see it "end".

Also both sides are gulity for weaponizing Monty's legacy to feed their own agendas while being disrespectful to the VAs.

If anything seeing a fandom cannibalised itself with shipping wars, R34 and all manor of controversies with RT/CRWBY is fascinating to witness.

sad given Monty just wanted to animate cool shit

This is why I want a RWBY Reboot

pffft ya need good writers for it

 

[Theglassman12]

Off topic, but assuming Death Battle doesn't buy any of the continental or Universal stuff people mentioned for Hellboy, do you think if they did Nero vs Hellboy it'll be a Chief vs Slayer situation where they'll just find a random feat that any of the characters in DMC have that aren't cosmic in nature but still outstats Hellboy?

 

[PonePoster]

This sums up like all of the Godzilla debunkers arguments, ignoring that Marvel has done way the **** more than Goji has ever seen

 

[Tipper17]

Off topic, but assuming Death Battle doesn't buy any of the continental or Universal stuff people mentioned for Hellboy, do you think if they did Nero vs Hellboy it'll be a Chief vs Slayer situation where they'll just find a random feat that any of the characters in DMC have that aren't cosmic in nature but still outstats Hellboy?

Probably

Being real here I expect Nero episode to bring in comsic stuff or Dante if they runback

 

[Tipper17]

RWBY always just seemed kinda mid to me, it never looked that interesting.

It's carried by **** that's all ya need to know on its value

The discourse surrounding RWBY has gotten so bad, that most of its fandom has been pretty much divided into two extreme factions for years now:

*The toxic positivity echo chamber that can't take any form of serious criticism of the show, will harass/cancel content creators that don't blindly enjoy the show or like "problematic" characters (e.g Adam, Ironwood, Crow-Vic, etc), sees RWBY as a "proud beacon" for LGBT+ represention but not for PoC represention lol! and will call you a "....phobe" if you don't like any of the official ships and/or certain popluar characters

*The cynical sunken cost critics that constantly moan about the "wasted potential" of RWBY but can never move on to better franchises (knowing full well RWBY won't be as great as they wished), will attack those who enjoy the show inspite of it's flaws and will nitpick every single frame of an episode just to prove how badly written and animated the show is yet still continue to watch it because they just have to see it "end".

Also both sides are gulity for weaponizing Monty's legacy to feed their own agendas while being disrespectful to the VAs.

If anything seeing a fandom cannibalised itself with shipping wars, R34 and all manor of controversies with RT/CRWBY is fascinating to witness.

RWBY fans version of hell


God if Monty could see the future of what awaited his child series

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

It's carried by **** that's all ya need to know on its value

Reminds me of Overwatch in a way.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Tipper17]

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Thoughts on Gappy vs Garnet?
Also check out this bomb ass edit

 

[OrangeFR]

It's carried by **** that's all ya need to know on its value

It doesn't even carry it that much due to almost all works of fiction having it. Plus its quantity and quality not being very special compared to other franchises with significantly better everything else. (TLDR the **** is average by definition, along with the rest of the show at best)

 

[AcidSilver]

To this day I still think that Thanos vs Darkseid should've either been a tie or a Thanos win. The gauntlet should be, bare minimum, just as powerful as Darkseid and the omniscience that it grants the user means that Thanos could never be tricked into leaving his universe since he would know that doing so would render the stones inert. Not to mention the fact that the gauntlet was able to put up a good fight against God Emperor Doom while The Living Tribunal got rolled by just 3 Beyonders which shows that the gauntlet is in fact above TLT in power which is more than a match for Darkseid.

So Thanos should've either outright beaten Darkseid through sheer power or Darkseid would just never try to enter the universe that Thanos is in which would lead to a tie. Also if you wanna scale the Infinity Gauntlet above the Eternity Mask (since IG>Eternity) then it should actually been a stomp in Thanos' favor with modern day feats considering that the mask has worked against beings similar to Darkseid's true form like Anti All.

 

[SpecterSkater]