DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[BlackDarkness679]

 

[Tipper17]

 

[MagdalenusTenebrosus]

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Nope, nothing but outliers and feats that require more context than anything else. All of these were heavily circumstantial.

Like his fights with Quantum, Miles needed help from Iron Man to weaken Quantum's powers so that Miles can knock him out, second round Miles hit his weak spot, and third Miles instead talked Quantum down. Under no circumstances in the context did it say that Miles matched Quantum in terms of power.

Miles stealing Ares' axe was tactical move, not a power move and therefore in no way does that put him on par with Ares. This was a simply precise, tactical move, not a contest of speed. It's heavily implied that Ares was holding back his true strength.

The shield that Captain America broke wasn't the same shield that Cap used to defend against Hercules. That was a weaker version entirely, and it was already damaged to begin with.

That black hole? Miles was barely hanging on and he was nearly sucked inside it if Shuri didn't deactivate as the black hole was created by unstable gravity gloves. Again, context, Miles doesn't have black hole singularity strength, he was barely holding on and nearly died.

Defeating Doctor Doom would be very impressive....if it weren't for the fact that this is the Doctor Doom from Miles' universe, Earth-1610, who is nowhere near Doctor Doom's level of power from Earth-616, not even half of it.

Defeating Zip Zephyr is also not impressive as the best we've seen the demigod do is destroy some SWAT vans and some large buildings. He's only a city-scale level threat and nowhere near any of the dangerous threats that Deku has faced routinely.

And it goes without saying, that Miles' fight with Blackheart is nothing but an outlier as it's shown that he's been routinely fatally damaged by street-tier villains like Rabble. It's just lazy writing and at best, you can say that Miles' Venom Blast just has a significant effect on demons.

Again, context matters the most. All these "feats" are just outliers and things that don't show the full picture. Miles is just City Level at best and there's no way he beats Deku.

This is all true, but I don't care, I actually like Deku more than Miles but I still want Deku to lose because it would be funny.

 

[ShawnFaux]

This is all true, but I don't care, I actually like Deku more than Miles but I still want Deku to lose because it would be funny.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Thoughts on snake vs Batman?

 

[koopa3144]

Thoughts on snake vs Batman?

Cool mu, it works to show off Batman's more grounded side.

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

Thoughts on snake vs Batman?

I like it.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Thoughts on snake vs Batman?

A dope grounded street tier fight that isn't just Marvel vs DC again.

 

[Tipper17]

Thoughts on snake vs Batman?

Pretty cool

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

It’s not that deep thematically, but I think it goes hard, guilty pleasure of mine, unfortunately Bruce might stomp but he’s cool too so I don’t feel too bad

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Ki

opinions?

Miles KO'ing Doctor Doom seems like one of the only legit ones

But it wasn't the Earth-616 version so it doesn't really matter

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Miles did KO Doctor Doom once

But it wasn't the Earthh-616 version so it doesn't really matter

Spiderman Beat the Phoniex Force
Well Beaten

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

It’s not that deep thematically, but I think it goes hard, guilty pleasure of mine, unfortunately Bruce might stomp but he’s cool too so I don’t feel too bad

Not with the city level args Snake's got

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Oh right the Simon upgrade dropped

(Gurren Lagann) Simon the Digger and Anti-Spiral upgrade thread 2.0

The previous thread attempted to upgrade Simon the Digger and the Anti-Spiral to 1-B based on the Otoko no Joukan Drama CD. However, the 20-D argument that the upgrade hinged on was revealed to be a mistranslation, and one of the possible translations is "two-fold dimension" so I just had it...

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[Detective_Blizzard]

Oh right the Simon upgrade dropped

(Gurren Lagann) Simon the Digger and Anti-Spiral upgrade thread 2.0

The previous thread attempted to upgrade Simon the Digger and the Anti-Spiral to 1-B based on the Otoko no Joukan Drama CD. However, the 20-D argument that the upgrade hinged on was revealed to be a mistranslation, and one of the possible translations is "two-fold dimension" so I just had it...

vsbattles.com

doesn't seem to be going well

 

[Definitelynotbatman0110]

Not with the city level args Snake's got

My GOAT Snake has city level arguments? Since when?

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Why do Peter & Miles have to share the same exact moniker?

The in-story reason is that the Peter Parker of Miles' universe was dead when Miles got his powers, so Miles became his successor.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

My GOAT Snake has city level arguments? Since when?

Via args putting him > Raiden.
What? I never said they were good args.

 

[Definitelynotbatman0110]

Via args putting him > Raiden.
What? I never said they were good args.

No, you did not.

The most you can put Snake is on the general playing field of MGS4 Raiden for fighting Vamp.

Revengeance is a no-go.

 

[Osemere]

Oh right the Simon upgrade dropped

(Gurren Lagann) Simon the Digger and Anti-Spiral upgrade thread 2.0

The previous thread attempted to upgrade Simon the Digger and the Anti-Spiral to 1-B based on the Otoko no Joukan Drama CD. However, the 20-D argument that the upgrade hinged on was revealed to be a mistranslation, and one of the possible translations is "two-fold dimension" so I just had it...

vsbattles.com

All the profiles are mega-outdated but of course people go for the upgrades first before anything else (it’s fine though, GL will always be 1-A in my heart)

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Miles KO'ing Doctor Doom seems like one of the only legit ones

But it wasn't the Earth-616 version so it doesn't really matter

If Miles wins against Deku, you have no idea how hard I’ll be laughing.

 

[Tipper17]

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Spider-Gwen is mid in terms of looks. Her thighs carry her

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Honestly even if they BS and give Miles comparable stats I still think Deku would 100% take it? His powerset seems to hard counter Miles' (Danger Sense negs Invisibility, he has Resistance to electricity, and the amps provided by Gearshift would blitz the Spider-Sense).

 

[MagdalenusTenebrosus]

Honestly even if they BS and give Miles comparable stats I still think Deku would 100% take it? His powerset seems to hard counter Miles' (Danger Sense negs Invisibility, he has Resistance to electricity, and the amps provided by Gearshift would blitz the Spider-Sense).

counterpoint, I will find a totally legit proof there is a Sun Disk in Marvel when I have the time to find an apropriate scan to photo shop in the sun disk when I find the smoking gun proof.

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Rangoon04]

counterpoint, I will find a totally legit proof there is a Sun Disk in Marvel when I have the time to find an apropriate scan to photo shop in the sun disk when I find the smoking gun proof.

there kind of is. Iron Man has access to a Dyson Sphere called Sol's Hammer which DB gave to him against Batman

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Spider-Gwen is mid in terms of looks. Her thighs carry her

Men better tbh

 

[PaperCoelacanth]

Not surprising honestly; in the few recent Miles comics I read, one of them ended with Miles doing the infamous Dio strut, and Miles' friend later fanboys about Miles getting caught in a "Domain Expansion".

Honestly even if they BS and give Miles comparable stats I still think Deku would 100% take it? His powerset seems to hard counter Miles' (Danger Sense negs Invisibility, he has Resistance to electricity, and the amps provided by Gearshift would blitz the Spider-Sense).

The only thing I could think of as an argument for Miles winning, even with comparable stats, is Vibranium Suit being too durable and Venom Shock being super effective on Deku because apparently it works especially well on people with genetic alterations, which could potentially include Quirks. Possibly the Venom-Saber could bypass durability too.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Men better tbh

Gojo Fanboys I swear

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

Bruh I ain’t even a Gojo fanboy

 

[TMaakkonen]

The in-story reason is that the Peter Parker of Miles' universe was dead when Miles got his powers, so Miles became his successor.

Well yes, but its out of story stuff that it getting complained about.

...And maybe cause they moved Miles to 616, but tbh I dont remember if people complain about that since Spidey's are in different cities or whatever.

 

[Tipper17]

 

[Tipper17]

comparable stats, is Vibranium Suit being too durable

Is issue it explicitly mentioned to be weaker than blank panther one and even then BP suit got rekt by Weaker characters

 

[Joycap]

Not to pry into a man's finances, but I'd wager this $2500 (around £1800 in my money) is spent on:

• The Animation (scaling from MapleRiot's commissions @ $85 (£61) per 30s of Animation, - around 20% for no hand drawn (?), and assuming up to a 5min animation, that'd be around $700-ish)
• Voice Actors (I'm assuming this is per spoken line. If we interpret attacks thrown as a line, that'd be at least 28 lines (read: Omni-Man vs Homelander), @ around $50 per line (random guess), so $1400)

... What's the other $400-ish going to?

 

[Joycap]

Shulk in Hard/Debatable

 

[Hunterzillas]

counterpoint, I will find a totally legit proof there is a Sun Disk in Marvel when I have the time to find an apropriate scan to photo shop in the sun disk when I find the smoking gun proof.

"Friday, fire the hammer!"