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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

He isn't a fraud, it's just Death Battle and by osmosis versus debating discourse is so skewed to patently ludicrous scaling for DC heralds that Kyle appears to be a fraud. He was outright the strongest DC character in the early 2000s outside of maybe Wally. His feats are still fantastic compared to other heralds (Actually had some of the best feats) until Rebirth came around. Rebirth is just so ludicrous that Kyle, who was sidelined for Hal, never got the spotlight and appears to be a fraud.

Kyle is being carried hard by how horribly and loosely Death Battle measures DC Cosmology. WL Kyle's best scaling feat is realistically Orrery level (He is a threat to the Guardians who at full power can destroy the New 52 Multiverse) but they're going to do some insane scaling chain to justify him being outerversal somehow.
I genuinely haven't seen him destroying a galaxy, ****, his only universal feat is highly shaky as the big bang...Was caused from the absorption of like 30 galaxies? (This was scaring everyone btw)
 
I genuinely haven't seen him destroying a galaxy, ****
Neither had anyone else in the JLA. The scaling to 3-C appears to be from an off-screen feat and one feat from an older Post Crisis Green Lantern run, and that's about it. Everything else was much lower.

, his only universal feat is highly shaky as the big bang...Was caused from the absorption of like 30 galaxies? (This was scaring everyone btw)
When he did that, that feat was superior to almost anything than any other character had done at the time that wasn't some esoteric universal feat. He was also in the process of becoming Ion, he was explicitly above everyone else at the time because in the prior Circle of Fire Story he overcame and defeated Oblivion who had himself defeated the entire Justice League.

Everyone is being hard carried in Death Battle by Rebirth being far more unrestrained than prior incarnations with feats and Death Battle playing it extremely loose and liberally with the cosmology.
 
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Neither had anyone else in the JLA. The scaling to 3-C appears to be from an off-screen feat and one feat from an older Post Crisis Green Lantern run, and that's about it. Everything else was much lower.


When he did that, that feat was superior to almost anything than any other character had done at the time that wasn't some esoteric universal feat. He was also in the process of becoming Ion, he was explicitly above everyone else at the time because in the prior Circle of Fire Story he overcame and defeated Oblivion who had himself defeated the entire Justice League.

Everyone is being hard carried in Death Battle by Rebirth being far more unrestrained than prior incarnations with feats and Death Battle playing it extremely loose and liberally with the cosmology.
So...Kyle biggest feat (one which is wonky at best, and useless at worst), was made when he was at his peak empowered by someone else...
 
Do you guys think they're gonna calculate the Infinity Big Bang Storm's expansion rate? Would be insane to see what numbers they can pull from it
 
Neither had anyone else in the JLA. The scaling to 3-C appears to be from an off-screen feat and one feat from an older Post Crisis Green Lantern run, and that's about it. Everything else was much lower.


When he did that, that feat was superior to almost anything than any other character had done at the time that wasn't some esoteric universal feat. He was also in the process of becoming Ion, he was explicitly above everyone else at the time because in the prior Circle of Fire Story he overcame and defeated Oblivion who had himself defeated the entire Justice League.

Everyone is being hard carried in Death Battle by Rebirth being far more unrestrained than prior incarnations with feats and Death Battle playing it extremely loose and liberally with the cosmology.
Dont bother with that user, when Kratos vs Asura was announced and running he kept yapping former is a fraud for relying on lore for tiering and isnt cosmic in power levels even when most of the shit he was saying was proven wrong or debunked, he a brain dead anti lore user
 
Verses definitely have different level of acceptance for lore. Some verses get lore ez pz while some verses are denied to get lore.

God of War is certainly a verse core DB fans dont seem to want to give lore lol
 
God of War is certainly a verse core DB fans dont seem to want to give lore lol
I think it was partially because DB was essentially handing kratos the win on a silver platter by doing that, basically meaning zero debate Although if they didn't do that then the irony of it is we'd be asura dishing out one of the biggest stomps in DB history instead lmao
 
I think it was partially because DB was essentially handing kratos the win on a silver platter by doing that, basically meaning zero debate Although if they didn't do that then the irony of it is we'd be asura dishing out one of the biggest stomps in DB history instead lmao
DB still does easy wins like ShiggyMahito, but its a problem when Kratos wins huh :V
 
DB still does easy wins like ShiggyMahito, but its a problem when Kratos wins huh :V
Ig people just really like asura

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(Understandable, Asura's wrath is a based game)
 
Kyle's case is different unlike Doomslayer and Kratos because this isn't lore debating, this is Death Battle having no consistent standards with how to scale DC Comics. And no clear explanation of the cosmology or differentiation between emanation and godhead or the like.

Oh right, ALE Spectre unmade the entire multiverse in Final Crisis. I think I mentioned that, LE Kyle would scale to that. That's still only Orrery level.


We still have Orrery at only High 1-C. The entire material plane aka Bleedspace is low 1-A, but there's no evidence Kyle ever reaches Bleedspace level.
 
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Dont bother with that user, when Kratos vs Asura was announced and running he kept yapping former is a fraud for relying on lore for tiering and isnt cosmic in power levels even when most of the shit he was saying was proven wrong or debunked, he a brain dead anti lore user
Yeah, they're not ME who just glazes Asura
 
Whats better in a fight? Combat experience or combat skill? Like you fought various people over years vs you are a master at h2h/a certain skill
 
TL;DR What tier does this guy put him?
 
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