On this wiki it's just resistance tbh. Check here to see why.
SS users aren't immune to poisons, tf.
Are you perhaps implying that ghosts are stronger than anything bound to physical matter? Come on now.
Being a robot does not mean being stronger than any living being, let's not be silly.
No, because characters in diavolo time skip move even though he erases time or some dragon ball characters in dbh going in voids with no time and move without issues and so on, unless its specifically said you do movement by speed and others dont move freely, you dont get speed from this, its been changed for a long time standards on that
No, but it (again) depends on how intepret DC's Cosmology, i'm just against the "Kyle shouldn't get LE" arguments, as pretty much all of them have already been dismissed on the last pages
Look how Death Battle rates DC Heralds these days along Marvel Heralds, they all are scaled to their huge cosmologies, try to beat that, Ghost Rider lost only cuz by their logic Spawn was impossible to kill by his arsenal and most powers were resisted by him, along ways to deal with him that by their logic again couldnt resist
I feel pretty similarly though maybe it's just burnout from all the cosmic stuff, I'm personally more of a 6-C to 6-A connoisseur myself, but anything under high tier is good for me. Low-High (like 5-C or 5-B) is where I'm reaching my personal limit but comfort zone wise is anywhere in mid tier so at low petatons or under.
TBH it's more the opposite that the more a verse is unexplored, the more it's downplayed.
Unlike Goku though, Simon stands a chance.
Except Dragon Ball isn't cringe.
Oof. Sad for my
, but true.
Kyle hasn't been updated to be given his Tier 1 stuff. I just haven't gotten to it yet.
if folks can do that these days... alot of downplay and wank wouldn't be the issue that it is now
Marvel and DC have apps I think but bro just pirate lmfao
That would be the case if simon didn't have his own laundry list of haxes himself, not saying he wins, just pointing that out.
Simon has less haxes, and more like hax resistance. Only thing he can't tank that Kyle throws at him is the reality warping shitstorm the life equation can do.
Basically and that's if they give kyle the LE. And do you think kyle can resist Simons missiles?
I mean even if Kyle has immeasurable speed so do the missiles. It's not like he transcends time (Without the LE I mean), at least as Ion he's just omnipresent at all points in time. They'd hit Kyle at every point still. He'd just take the damage as his Ion form at all points in time instead of baby Kyle being hit with it.
I should note that this is still a Kyle in his early career but yeah, it kinda sucks that most of the peeps complaining about DC Heralds are just MFs who haven't picked up a comic.
I consider myself an ultraconservative in DC scaling but that's mostly because I read a shitton of Post Crisis and have had no interest in reading Post Flashpoint, which does appear to actually go off the rails once Jurgens stopped writing Superman and Bendis took over. People seem to not realize how Superman, any DC herald, could go whole years in Post Crisis without a feat that's even above tier 6 and then suddenly he has something that's planetary or higher, then a half dozen, all becuase the author decided it's worth doing, and then it's another 2 years of nothing. It's a massive backlog, one that makes feats and feat progression make much more sense than the way versus debating seems to just put feats in a vacuum.
GL rings can actually somewhat resist being manipulated by Dr Manhattan, who found it difficult to affect emotiobal spectrum energy. Dr Manhattan himself is superior to Mr Mxy and has the power to match someone like Perpetua.
the probability manipulation just hits them from all points in space and time, thus making it undodgeable I thought?
Thanks for the info. The cosmology is just consistently 1-A then :/
I guess Simon loses since his verses cosmology is smaller then. I wanted him to win but the internal vote for Kyle to win is probably higher than Simon's anyway.
Aw that was my only argument for a Simon win. It's over
