DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[SpecterSkater]

Even PWA is fraud because Creation Trio scaling does not work for any consistency. Its modern VS at its most rotten. Everything Reddit casuals complain about Kratos is actually true for 99% of Poke Trainers.

DB will probably use Creation Trio stuff tho :V

This has been my thoughts exactly about Ash's potential reading in the Death Battle. As someone who doesn't know anything too in depth about Ash, all the research stuff I've seen people put forward for him are either:

A) Entirely scaling-chain results, which people have hated for other matches or,
B) Inconsistent and one-off showings, which people have also not liked

Stuff like creation trio or Ash being incredibly strong because of lifting Larvitars or Cosmoem aren't regular things he shows off all the time, or how I imagine the writers wanted it to be interpreted. Which is also again yeah, peak brainrot vs debating as well. If anything I figure the DB research will bring up the Creation Trio stuff but black box how he might not exactly scale to it.

 

[Tipper17]

Universal Toei Cell is weird as hell and something I would have a hard time remotely making sense at but given DB went with star level Nolan eh fucknit why not

 

[Tipper17]

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Multiversus shuts down servers before June

 

[TartaChocholate]

Universal Toei Cell is weird as hell and something I would have a hard time remotely making sense at but given DB went with star level Nolan eh fucknit why not

That's kind of an thing with modern Death Battle. From being too conservative in earlier seasons, the pendulum swung all the way to the other end and now the team will take the best showing or scaling the character has regardless if it is consistent or an isolated case, unless it is blatantly contradictory or from an openly non-canon source.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Wait, Red win wasnt a bit?

Tai's WarGreymon managed to land a hit on Alphamon, giving it the blablah to beat any dumbass argument for Red winning.

God, Pokemon is so ******* ass to talk about in VS, its so bad. DB can you actually start using inconsistencies and punish verses for them ffs.

Keep in mind, Wargreymon still struggled against Metalseadramon after this, whom he’d fought all the way in 01. If anything that makes Alphamon look weak. Speaking of, our Alphamon page is a composite.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

I think the case was with Charizard leading against Agumon, it could win, if not for DB's "Combatants must reach final forms before the end of the match" trend.
But with Digimon physiology, I definitely have my doubts.

Oh, Imaginym… how little must you think… of my Pokemon Physiology page?

 

[CharlesZaGreat]

Multiversus shuts down servers before June

...Does MultiVersus exist as physical media? Because if not, than does that mean it's now lost media. They can't take away copies that have already been downloaded, but for those that don't have the game it will be completely inaccessible

 

[Tipper17]

Yeah i also think its unlikely that they will have Cell at Universal, i'm not even sure if they buy Universal for Buu (maybe Buuhan).

Assuming they go with Anime/Movies material, he can either end up at Multi-Solar System Level to Multi-Galaxy Level, depend of how they intepretate certain feats.

Speed wise he will range in the Quadrillions of Times FTL to maybe Septillions depend of how they also treat Goku and Pikkon fly.

Remember they had Bardock trillions times light speed in his episode and cell is beyond a ssj Bardock in speed in imperfect version when you apply multipliers

 

[Imaginym]

Oh, Imaginym… how little must you think… of my Pokemon Physiology page?

Well, I am sincerely sorry if I've made you feel bad -For real, it pains me to see someone suffer, & I don't want for you to suffer more-, but for Death Battle Charizard vs Agumon, if we're using At the Time materials, Pokemon Physiology may not be a factor in that.

Even today, many aspects of it are contentious, & I haven't checked all -or even most- of the scans myself, so it's unclear what could be used, & IIRC, Digimon Physiology provides passives that make destroying a Digimon difficult, IIRC.
I'm sure there are counterarguments, but most founded on Pokemon Physiology aren't accepted (YET) by our standards, & either unknown or unaccepted by Death Battle, especially with At the Time stuff, I assume.

Emotionally, I think your Pokemon Physiology page is commandable for the sheer quantity & efforts towards thoroughness in sourcing & material providing, & some of the proposals are intriguing.
But as said, I haven't analyzed the scans myself, so I don't think I can give a more reasoning-focused stance on it at this time.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

...Does MultiVersus exist as physical media? Because if not, than does that mean it's now lost media. They can't take away copies that have already been downloaded, but for those that don't have the game it will be completely inaccessible

Afaik it was a free to play game which if you wanted extra stuff you used money

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

I have a feeling that Godzilla might scale to Galactus.

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

Multiversus shuts down servers before June

Does it deserve it?

 

[ZeedKZ]

 

[ZeedKZ]

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[TMaakkonen]

Keep in mind, Wargreymon still struggled against Metalseadramon after this, whom he’d fought all the way in 01. If anything that makes Alphamon look weak. Speaking of, our Alphamon page is a composite.

This isnt the gotcha that you think it is. Alphamon feat happened afterwards and WarGreymon became stronger overtime.

And like, lowballing Digimon as well, MetalSeadramon manipulated 25% of the planet creating a mountain from it. There is no sensible/non-lore scaling that would make Red scale to that.

I hate that people question this obvious stomp nowadays.

 

[StarShooter80]

Thread 'Toeiverse Cell Upgrade (3-A)'

Jun 5, 2024

• The narrator states as Cell was preparing his Solar Kamehameha that "the overture to the collapse of the earth--no, the whole universe--has already begun"
• Cell himself (while charging his Solar Kamehameha) stating "the Earth will be blown away. Everything will be blown away. It will only become the darkness of space, with no traces remaining!"
• Dragon Books also state that "Cell announces a new plan... First destroy the Earth. And after that, the Universe!"
• When Cell transformed into his Perfect form, the Elder Namekian stated "but the whole universe...

• StarShooter80
• 3-a cell (dragon ball) cell (toei) dragon ball dragon ball (toei) universe level
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Oh boy

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Does it deserve it?

Depends how was your experience with it as a customer

Warner Bros though killed another gane of theirs now

 

[BlackDarkness679]

I feel like they do whatever is popular with godzilla and calls it moneymaking choice

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

You know, I just realized: Multiversus Models would probably go really well with Marvel Rivals models if they did an animation.

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

Seeing that 4th panel reminds me of this.

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Watch as Godzilla beats the Phoenix force in xmen vs godzilla

 

[Dust_Collector]

Rubbing my hands hoping Godzilla throws hands with all the abstracts

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

Well, I am sincerely sorry if I've made you feel bad -For real, it pains me to see someone suffer, & I don't want for you to suffer more-, but for Death Battle Charizard vs Agumon, if we're using At the Time materials, Pokemon Physiology may not be a factor in that.

Even today, many aspects of it are contentious, & I haven't checked all -or even most- of the scans myself, so it's unclear what could be used, & IIRC, Digimon Physiology provides passives that make destroying a Digimon difficult, IIRC.
I'm sure there are counterarguments, but most founded on Pokemon Physiology aren't accepted (YET) by our standards, & either unknown or unaccepted by Death Battle, especially with At the Time stuff, I assume.

Emotionally, I think your Pokemon Physiology page is commandable for the sheer quantity & efforts towards thoroughness in sourcing & material providing, & some of the proposals are intriguing.
But as said, I haven't analyzed the scans myself, so I don't think I can give a more reasoning-focused stance on it at this time.

It’s alright, I was memeing.

 

[Super_Ascended_Sean_Pazdera]

This isnt the gotcha that you think it is. Alphamon feat happened afterwards and WarGreymon became stronger overtime.

And like, lowballing Digimon as well, MetalSeadramon manipulated 25% of the planet creating a mountain from it. There is no sensible/non-lore scaling that would make Red scale to that.

I hate that people question this obvious stomp nowadays.

I said “afterwards”. I was talking about when he struggled with Metalseadramon in Tri, though he handily won afterwards.

He didn’t even manipulate 25% of the planet, since a lot of it still wasn’t part of Spiral Mountain afterwards, and they needed a special machine to do that. And yes there is, everyone on Red’s team is stronger than Mewtwo in Base, Mega Charizard X double resists Fire and regular resists Steel, so literally Wargreymon’s entire moveset is countered by Charizard existing, not to mention the Dramon Destroyers only work on Dramon Digimon. And let’s not forget his heals. It’s literally almost the stomp that Leaf VS Mimi is.

 

[Imaginym]

It’s alright, I was memeing.

Ah, I didn't realize. My bad. Thanks.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Seeing that 4th panel reminds me of this.

Bro, thats a blast from the past, i remember this video being in my early days of youtube watches on the old ass computer

 

[BlackDarkness679]

You know, I just realized: Multiversus Models would probably go really well with Marvel Rivals models if they did an animation.

Got the same kind of art style to say

 

[Gyra1524]

 

[TartaChocholate]

Wonder if Artemis did animations for "what if" scenarios like the ones we saw in the closing breakdown of Bowser vs Eggman.

 

[ShionAH]

Multiversus shuts down servers before June

How did WB mess up this bad? Another media of Rick gone , we are never getting the DC scaling for R&M anymore

 

[NotoriouSoda]

...Does MultiVersus exist as physical media? Because if not, than does that mean it's now lost media. They can't take away copies that have already been downloaded, but for those that don't have the game it will be completely inaccessible

How did they **** this up so badly?

 

[BlackDarkness679]

How did they **** this up so badly?

Warner Bros had bad decisions with their games which killed them in the long run

 

[Tipper17]

Anyways

How did they **** this up so badly?

It's Warner Bros my man

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

How did WB mess up this bad? Another media of Rick gone , we are never getting the DC scaling for R&M anymore

How did they **** this up so badly?

Reminder: Warner Bros Games were the same people who greenlit Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League.

Are we surprised that Multiversus ended up failing? It's WB Games for god's sake.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

And Mortal Kombat 1 will prolly follow soon given the rumor of season 3 being cancelled could be more true then ever after this

 

[Jimmy.robinson.5099]

Reminder: Warner Bros Games were the same people who greenlit Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League.

Are we surprised that Multiversus ended up failing? It's WB Games for god's sake.

And in the games industry that can only mean one thing: closures and layoffs.

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

And Mortal Kombat 1 will prolly follow soon given the rumor of season 3 being cancelled could be more true then ever after this

Really? Has MK1 been doing worse then previous installments like 11 or X?

 

[Tipper17]