DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[TMaakkonen]

Not using composite weps is probably easier pill to swallow.

"Kratos' magic and weapons overwhelm Asura, hell, if he had access to all Greek weapons, he'd be even more powerful, like with the Claws of Hades, that would rip out Asura's soul!" - Boomstick

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Canonically Kratos should be at least comparable to Greek er so stats arent a problem.

Problem is, majority of Greek weps were destroyed, lost and have stopped working. If it wasnt for Valhalla he wouldnt even have Blade of Olympus ngl. I guess they could not give all Greek weps if he wins without them.

Ngl, I don't think it would affect the outcome that much. Like even with Norse stuff, Kratos is still a lot more haxxed than Asura afaik.

Not using composite weps is probably easier pill to swallow.

"Kratos' magic and weapons overwhelm Asura, hell, if he had access to all Greek weapons, he'd be even more powerful, like with the Claws of Hades, that would rip out Asura's soul!" - Boomstick

Yeah, I think they might actually just do this.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Problem with using Greek + Norse is that since its not a thing in games, its easy target to claim DB wanks Kratos, itd be better to leave it off, esp. if Kratos wins without it.

Granted any Kratos win argument will not be taken well tbh lol

 

[SomaKing13]

For the Horde vs WAAAAGHHH

Grimgor from Warhammer Fantasy is a way better match up and more thematic too with both of them being former slaves to leaders of their civilizations, not to mention both actually being fantasy orcs instead of scifi vs fantasy

 

[SomaKing13]

I'm very glad for some Magic: The Gathering love, but who the heck is Nagash?
What's his thematics for old Nicky?

He;s the Supreme God of Death, inventor of necromancy, general massive prick of Warhammer Fantasy/Age of Sigmar

not really sure of the connections though as im not super knowledgeable on Nicola Bolas

 

[Imaginym]

He;s the Supreme God of Death, inventor of necromancy, general massive prick of Warhammer Fantasy/Age of Sigmar

not really sure of the connections though as im not super knowledgeable on Nicola Bolas

IIRC, Nicol Bolas is a grand scope villain in Magic: The Gathering, notable for being 1 of the few Planeswalkers to retain an old Planeswalker's level of power (Cosmic stuff involving a weird retcon in-universe & stuff. The Mending, I think?) & taking multiple planes worth of mana for himself in Alara. He also has Death stuff as one of his primary things, in part because lore, & being that his main colours of Mana are Black, Red & Blue; Red & Blue are both Black's "allies" in the MtG colour pie, as opposed to its enemies of Green & White; Every colour has 2 enemies & 2 allies, & since Nicky is Black & its 2 allied colours, safe to say it's his primary colour.

 

[SomaKing13]

IIRC, Nicol Bolas is a grand scope villain in Magic: The Gathering, notable for being 1 of the few Planeswalkers to retain an old Planeswalker's level of power (Cosmic stuff involving a weird retcon in-universe & stuff. The Mending, I think?) & taking multiple planes worth of mana for himself in Alara. He also has Death stuff as one of his primary things, in part because lore, & being that his main colours of Mana are Black, Red & Blue; Red & Blue are both Black's "allies" in the MtG colour pie, as opposed to its enemies of Green & White; Every colour has 2 enemies & 2 allies, & since Nicky is Black & its 2 allied colours, safe to say it's his primary colour.

Oh so they have a decent amount of stuff in common then, as Nagash is famous for consuming other gods and even attempted to absorb all of the magic in the Eight Mortal Realms (Eight infinite multiverses) He has access to several different flavours of magic (Death, Light, Dark Magic, Nehekarran magic, Necromancy) he's also one of the only level 5 wizards in Fantasy (he's one of only like four characters who has that, as magic caps out at level 4 for everyone else)

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Not using composite weps is probably easier pill to swallow.

"Kratos' magic and weapons overwhelm Asura, hell, if he had access to all Greek weapons, he'd be even more powerful, like with the Claws of Hades, that would rip out Asura's soul!" - Boomstick

Yeah that's something Kratos has an objective advantage of over Asura: sheer versatility and hax with his weapons and magic.

It's rather crazy to think that a significant portion of Kratos' equipment, especially in the Greek era, could realistically beat Asura here and there once he's nicked once. Especially with, as you said, shit like the Claws of Hades and the like.

 

[Imaginym]

Oh so they have a decent amount of stuff in common then, as Nagash is famous for consuming other gods and even attempted to absorb all of the magic in the Eight Mortal Realms (Eight infinite multiverses) He has access to several different flavours of magic (Death, Light, Dark Magic, Nehekarran magic, Necromancy) he's also one of the only level 5 wizards in Fantasy (he's one of only like four characters who has that, as magic caps out at level 4 for everyone else)

I wonder if they share any tiers....
It sounds kind of like a neat matchup, & it does sound interesting for DB to do, reading what you've said.

 

[TMaakkonen]

Its often generalized too much, but listing things would def make it clear. Kratos can:

• Blade of Olympus can drain opponents powers, making them weaker and lose abilities as well as make the Blade stronger
• Can slowdown time for several seconds
• Can inflict fire & poison to deal damage over time
• Can inflict freeze and electricity to slow & stun opponents
• Can negate damage at low health for few seconds
• Can resurrected with Resurrection Stones
• If given Greek weapons, can rip out souls

Simplified list would be nice, it would shed light on abilities more. G1 old blog is bit cumbersome to get full grasp easily tbh.

 

[SomaKing13]

I wonder if they share any tiers....
It sounds kind of like a neat matchup, & it does sound interesting for DB to do, reading what you've said.

closest we got is using their tier 2 versions, outside of that, though Nagash in that key is a smurf idk if Nicol is or not

 

[Tipper17]

the g1 blog for it comes out tommorow

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Speaking of Kratos and Death Batttle, do you think that Spawn will ever return?

 

[Spinoirr]

Speaking of Kratos and Death Batttle, do you think that Spawn will ever return?

looks at Ghost Rider

Oh 100%

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Speaking of Kratos and Death Batttle, do you think that Spawn will ever return?

Against Ghost Rider he can very much do

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

Episode 10: October 12th

Oh cool, a birthday gift.

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Rooting Kassandra because RWBY has a cringe fanbase

 

[Tipper17]

Speaking of Kratos and Death Batttle, do you think that Spawn will ever return?

ghost rider says yes

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Its often generalized too much, but listing things would def make it clear. Kratos can:

• Blade of Olympus can drain opponents powers, making them weaker and lose abilities as well as make the Blade stronger
• Can slowdown time for several seconds
• Can inflict fire & poison to deal damage over time
• Can inflict freeze and electricity to slow & stun opponents
• Can negate damage at low health for few seconds
• Can resurrected with Resurrection Stones
• If given Greek weapons, can rip out souls

Simplified list would be nice, it would shed light on abilities more. G1 old blog is bit cumbersome to get full grasp easily tbh.

In my perspective: unless Death Battle gives Asura an absurd strength and speed advantage over Kratos, it could feasibly be argued that Kratos' versatility with comparable stats to Asura would enable him to overwhelm and defeat him in a multitude of ways.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

In my perspective: unless Death Battle gives Asura an absurd strength and speed advantage over Kratos, it could feasibly be argued that Kratos' versatility with comparable stats to Asura would enable him to overwhelm and defeat him in a multitude of ways.

Can't you counterargue that Asura's adaptability and Accelerated Development would be too overwhelming for Kratos?

 

[Tipper17]

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[AnAverageUsername]

Can't you counterargue that Asura's adaptability and Accelerated Development would be too overwhelming for Kratos?

Considering that Asura's AD made him go from getting humiliated by to humiliating Chakravartin in the time span of an average Death Battle episode, maybe

I'll still believe in my GOAT Asura though

 

[Tipper17]

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

Considering that Asura's AD made him go from getting humiliated by to humiliating Chakravartin in the time span of an average Death Battle episode, maybe

I'll still believe in my GOAT Asura though

To be fair: Kratos arguably has equally potent AD so eh...? I still think that how the fight goes is going to depend on if there's a noticable gap in stats between them or if it'll be mostly similar.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Kratos cant use power of hope right?

 

[TMaakkonen]

Teeechnically he did retain some Power of Hope. So it depends how do you quantify that.

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

You guys saying Asura should beat Kratos, but what can Asura do when even the United Nations can’t stand up to him

 

[Spinoirr]

Rooting Kassandra because RWBY has a cringe fanbase

 

[Tipper17]

 

[AnAverageUsername]

CYAN MAN!!!!! THE DLC WAS MEANT TO BE A SEQUEL!!!!! THE POOR SALES MADE IT SHORTENED INTO A DLC!!!!!

CYAN MAAAAAAN!!!!!

 

[Peter_"Quicksilver"_Maximoff]

Lmao that and the sure hit soul dismantle

 

[CinnabarManx421]

So will Death Battle do a composite of greek and norse eras, so this is a peak kratos or they may count only norse era and whatever from greek era that the series itself still counts viable for him

They could actually give him all his Greek weapons, since Kratos could potentially take the fight to Valhalla where he can manifest weapons from his past.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Thing is Capcom tried to revive some of their franchises, unfortunately many just didnt have the appeal of others to get support in the long run

 

[BlackDarkness679]

They could actually give him all his Greek weapons, since Kratos could potentially take the fight to Valhalla where he can manifest weapons from his past.

He can bfr there?

 

[Tipper17]

They could actually give him all his Greek weapons, since Kratos could potentially take the fight to Valhalla where he can manifest weapons from his past.

The only weapon he could manifest was the blade of Olympus
Maybe DB could allow other weapons but that depends on the budget and length the fight gonna be to make that happen

 

[BlackDarkness679]

The only weapon he could manifest was the blade of Olympus
Maybe DB could allow other weapons but that depends on the budget and length the fight gonna be to make that happen

Unless they have it on the level of bowser vs eggman, the time limit may cut off from too many weapons

 

[Imaginym]

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

Nah, I'd win.