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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Pet peeve:

DB fans kinda forget that the point of a Death Battle is the debate, they repeat in literally every video that the reason behind the existence of it is "we'll find out who would win".

MUs should have at least some degree of being debateable, regardless of how popular it is. This is why Gohan vs Invincible or Alastor vs Black Hat are bad, because they're literally just slaughters, where's the exact fun?

Thematics, connections, animation potential? Cool, but there's fanfiction.net for that, and most of the time the "plots" DB gives for the fight to happen are pretty stupid. Gohan and Invincible having a lot in common does not mean that their hypotetical fight somehow becomes entertaining, it's literally Gohan one-shotting the whole verse through breathing too hard.

And to clarify: By "stomp MU" I mean stuff where X objectively just stomps Y so blatantly that everyone agrees with the winner, stuff like Alucard vs Dio or Goku vs Superman which were indeed debated by many on the other hand is ok because it has the "holy shit it's such a controversial fight" sparkle that people are attracted to.

Yes I know Omniman vs Homelander or Spongebob vs Aquaman are good, but there the spite is implied and made blatant, so these get a pass.
 
Pet peeve:

DB fans kinda forget that the point of a Death Battle is the debate, they repeat in literally every video that the reason behind the existence of it is "we'll find out who would win".

MUs should have at least some degree of being debateable, regardless of how popular it is. This is why Gohan vs Invincible or Alastor vs Black Hat are bad, because they're literally just slaughters, where's the exact fun?

Thematics, connections, animation potential? Cool, but there's fanfiction.net for that, and most of the time the "plots" DB gives for the fight to happen are pretty stupid. Gohan and Invincible having a lot in common does not mean that their hypotetical fight somehow becomes entertaining, it's literally Gohan one-shotting the whole verse through breathing too hard.

And to clarify: By "stomp MU" I mean stuff where X objectively just stomps Y so blatantly that everyone agrees with the winner, stuff like Alucard vs Dio or Goku vs Superman which were indeed debated by many on the other hand is ok because it has the "holy shit it's such a controversial fight" sparkle that people are attracted to.

Yes I know Omniman vs Homelander or Spongebob vs Aquaman are good, but there the spite is implied and made blatant, so these get a pass.
I get what you mean and is not wrong
However I say mainly boils down to visual wise not just stats
Can you envision loser doing shit to the winner
 
I can ignore lack of debate, if its MU that DB has not done in any way to prove is not debatable in prior episodes, and/or if the MU is obvious one they havent done yet. Ofc at this point in DB's 14th+ year, they have done most big ones anyways.

Gohan vs Invincible sucks cause Mark is a brick and they already did basically the same fight with NolanBardock :V
 
Pet peeve:

DB fans kinda forget that the point of a Death Battle is the debate, they repeat in literally every video that the reason behind the existence of it is "we'll find out who would win".

MUs should have at least some degree of being debateable, regardless of how popular it is. This is why Gohan vs Invincible or Alastor vs Black Hat are bad, because they're literally just slaughters, where's the exact fun?

Thematics, connections, animation potential? Cool, but there's fanfiction.net for that, and most of the time the "plots" DB gives for the fight to happen are pretty stupid. Gohan and Invincible having a lot in common does not mean that their hypotetical fight somehow becomes entertaining, it's literally Gohan one-shotting the whole verse through breathing too hard.

And to clarify: By "stomp MU" I mean stuff where X objectively just stomps Y so blatantly that everyone agrees with the winner, stuff like Alucard vs Dio or Goku vs Superman which were indeed debated by many on the other hand is ok because it has the "holy shit it's such a controversial fight" sparkle that people are attracted to.

Yes I know Omniman vs Homelander or Spongebob vs Aquaman are good, but there the spite is implied and made blatant, so these get a pass.
There shouldn't be a need of a debate if it's obvious as hell who wins though lol
 
Ngl, I don't mind "stomp MU" as long as the thematics, connections, and animation potential outweigh it being a stomp. For example, Omni-Man VS Homelander is a stomp match but the thematics and character interaction of the mu are what made it a fun mu that peeps wanted, along with the two just being really popular characters at the time. On the other side of things there's Gohan vs Invincible which also has thematics and potential for interesting character interaction if done right but suffers as a mu because it such a big stomp it outweighs the things the mu has going for it.
 
Ngl, I don't mind "stomp MU" as long as the thematics, connections, and animation potential outweigh it being a stomp. For example, Omni-Man VS Homelander is a stomp match but the thematics and character interaction of the mu are what made it a fun mu that peeps wanted, along with the two just being really popular characters at the time. On the other side of things there's Gohan vs Invincible which also has thematics and potential for interesting character interaction if done right but suffers as a mu because it such a big stomp it outweighs the things the mu has going for it.
You worded what I meant better than how I said it.

Having a potential for good character interaction doesn't mean being a good MU, I meant this, I just didn't know how to type it.
 
Please don't strawman me.

I didn't say that visuals don't matter, only that connections, thematics and story potential ain't cutting it if it's a one sided murder in a realistic fight.
I didn't strawman you if anything I'm just adding to your point
 
Pondering, should indie DB try to now return to certain verses, that have only been used once or few times?

Couple years back there was glamour to introduce new verses, and last two years they've done pretty well. But evergreens and new verses left some verses stagnated, like Digimon SoL. Maybe now would be good time?
The big Digimon options atm are
Gogeta vs Omegamon
Yu Narukami vs Takumi Aiba
Mewtwo vs BlackWarGreymon
Lan & MegaMan.EXE vs Takato & Guilmon

Which would be most likely? I'm inclined to think Gogeta vs Omegamon or Mewtwo vs BlackWarGreymon because of the casual appeal their opponents bring (Mewtwo is, spitballing here, a top 10 character most requested for a runback).
 
How exactly?
Basically, his very first appearance originally as a side character to the comic that focused on Olive Oyl and her brothers - Castor and Ham Gravy. Appearantly, his ability to eat spinach as a power up isn't or should be allowed as it basically arrived when he became what we think of as Popeye - so his original powerup would be to rub the head of a sort of hen.

So Bluto for example hasn't entered the public domain yet since he first appeared in 1932 rather than 1929
 
The big Digimon options atm are
Gogeta vs Omegamon
Yu Narukami vs Takumi Aiba
Mewtwo vs BlackWarGreymon
Lan & MegaMan.EXE vs Takato & Guilmon

Which would be most likely? I'm inclined to think Gogeta vs Omegamon or Mewtwo vs BlackWarGreymon because of the casual appeal their opponents bring (Mewtwo is, spitballing here, a top 10 character most requested for a runback).
Those 2 are only likely ones. Other 2 are too niche, F.

Lowkey not so secretly I dont care for M2 vs BlkWarGreymon, it only connects via specific version of BlkWarGrey, but theyd prolly still composite him to hell. And Omegaaaaa would just keep the DBZ Ls coming
 
 
This has very quickly become one of my most wanted MUs. Thing is, IDK how powerful Mita is compared to Monika, so I'm not sure if it'd be a stomp or not.
It is prob a stomp since while Mita is physically stronger than Monika, she lacks the same level of meta power that Monika has and doesn't have any counters too it.
 
It is prob a stomp since while Mita is physically stronger than Monika, she lacks the same level of meta power that Monika has and doesn't have any counters too it.
Yeah Mita physically stomps Monika, especially if becoming a giant, but Monika has the hax edge overall, tier 2 powers arent to be joked with
 
Although iirc the Mita who antagonizes you is basically not even tied to any game version if i got it right, basically she shouldnt exist and cant be rebooted unlike her other versions
 
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