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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

Chronicplane said:
I'm from the future, and I can confirm this be legit. 😈
But nah fr, decided to take some inspiration from the board of wizdom returning an used it for guaranteed future MU's to create prediction for what they'll do and based on community versus setting.
Red is Shigaraki and Mahito da purple.
https://cdn.**********.com/attachments/927136690752061460/1308115329284702228/Board_of_Wizdom_Mahiraki_Template_Filled_Complete.png?ex=673cc4d6&is=673b7356&hm=7ddb2aee0612e5be49e8f027b3eb60294b62839e5bd800be451c3bb767b972ac&
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I really think someone needs to prep a template for something like this
 
Random question: I've heard Shadow acts more Vegeta-ish in the comics due to Sega's instructions (angrier, more antisocial, etc). Is that true? I mean, "Edgy" memes aside, I only know him from Sonic Adventure 2, and while he had his edge and all, the game made it clear he had the heart in the right place and his attitude came simply as standoffish than outright abrassive.
 
TartaChocholate said:
Random question: I've heard Shadow acts more Vegeta-ish in the comics due to Sega's instructions (angrier, more antisocial, etc). Is that true? I mean, "Edgy" memes aside, I only know him from Sonic Adventure 2, and while he had his edge and all, the game made it clear he had the heart in the right place and his attitude came simply as standoffish than outright abrassive.
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They do have plans for him in future games I'm sure
 
TartaChocholate said:
Random question: I've heard Shadow acts more Vegeta-ish in the comics due to Sega's instructions (angrier, more antisocial, etc). Is that true? I mean, "Edgy" memes aside, I only know him from Sonic Adventure 2, and while he had his edge and all, the game made it clear he had the heart in the right place and his attitude came simply as standoffish than outright abrassive.
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His personality is very much Mewtwo like, an INTJ if you will. He can be a little standoffish, but he's not like abrasive perse yeah.
 
TartaChocholate said:
Random question: I've heard Shadow acts more Vegeta-ish in the comics due to Sega's instructions (angrier, more antisocial, etc). Is that true? I mean, "Edgy" memes aside, I only know him from Sonic Adventure 2, and while he had his edge and all, the game made it clear he had the heart in the right place and his attitude came simply as standoffish than outright abrassive.
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Yup it's very true unfortunately he's brash, arrogant and short tempered which lead him to getting infected by the metal virus, not caring about the wellbeing of his teammates, was gonna let innocent people die in an avalanche and more.

In recent issues he has mellowed out a little more and Team Dark actually function as a team now but you can tell Shadow is more of a "special" occasion hype character rather than one of the main reoccurring characters in IDW due to all the trouble the writers have to go through to include him in their stories (Shadow legit goes between several to a dozen issues between his major roles in the stories post the Neo Metal Sonic arc unlike let's say Tails, Amy or IDW OCs who consistently appear every couple to a few issues).

The general consensus is Archie Shadow (post-reboot) is best written version of Shadow post Sonic 06/pre Shadow Gens.
 
TartaChocholate said:
"Introverted, Intuitive, Thinking, Judging"? I was asking if you were referring to this or I was mistaken.
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Yeah, Shadow fits into that category.

Driven by purpose towards a particular vision. Carrying their actions out with cold, calculated efficiency. Secretly being very motivated by strong personal feelings and values that they keep hidden.
 
ZeNoviceArtist said:
What's the etymology of Hyperversal
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Note 2:
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System#Notes
The term "Hyperverse" comes from two words: "hyper," which is used in mathematics to designate higher-dimensional space, and something extreme, above or beyond the usual level. As well as "verse" as a short for "universe". So it is intended as a description of a superior existence beyond conventional reality.
https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Tiering_System#Notes
Similarly, "Hypoverse" is derived from "hypo", which is used as a suffix to mean being "under", "lesser than", or "below" something. Furthermore, it is the literary inverse of "hyper", which makes it a fitting complement to the existing terminology.
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A Hyperverse is a term that we decided to use for a reality of a higher dimensional order than an 11-dimensional multiverse.
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The prefix "hyper" means beyond normal scale. Since the most popular higher-dimensional theories posit 11 dimensions, "Hyperverse" encompasses structures with 12 or more spatial dimensions.
ZeNoviceArtist said:
and Outerversal?
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Can't confirm this since I haven't read Lovecraft yet, but from what I've heard, "Outerverse" originated in or was inspired by Cthulhu Mythos terminology used to describe a structure beyond the measure of any number of dimensions.
 
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Darkmon_cns said:
What's so werid about nano bots working on someone immune to sickness? It's factually not a virus or if it is it is fundamentally different from all others that exist.
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The platypus working with eggman thought it had a vaccine implying that a vaccine was possible. I don’t think I need to explain how vaccines work to say why it shouldn’t work on shadow
 
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Lord_Farquaad69420 said:
The platypus working with eggman thought it had a vaccine implying that a vaccine was possible. I don’t think I need to explain how vaccines work to say why it shouldn’t work on shadow
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Starline didn't truly understand the design of the metal virus at that point and was just working on the terminology the doctor was using. Just the general idea making himself immune would be important.
 
Maverick_Zero_X said:
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The battle pretty much sums up why in some Sonic fan circles Forces is even more infamous than Sonic 06 or Boom Rise of Lyric.

*Infinite was sent to the frontlines with no backup from Metal, Sage or anyone else thus was clearly seen as expendable (After the first major cutscene of Forces with Infinite jumping Sonic with Phantom clones, he never uses that strategy again against Sonic nor the Rookie)
*He received a crushing defeat in a very embarrassing way despite his boasts and actually having great power (In Forces he got beaten by base Sonic, who spent six months locked up and a Rookie member of the resistance, who Infinite previously spared).
*The Phantom Ruby got crushed by Bowser after Kamek swiped it from Metal Sonic and it's never brought up again (Phantom Ruby went from Maina to Forces back to Maina and then just disappeared).

He is the Infinite potential guy, stated to be the strongest Sonic villain to date yet was simply just too weak to be relevant in the grand scheme of things (keep in mind he never actually used the REAL Phantom Ruby just a copy).

Darkmon_cns said:
Infifnte needs an epic return in a future sonic game the fact he's absent in the sonic comics right now leaves me suspicious.
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Course correction, after the heavily mixed (which later became negative) reception of Forces the IDW writers were specifically instructured to keep the Force's references to a premium. Not just Infinite but the Rookie and even the Phantom Ruby weren't allowed to be mentioned by name let alone shown (at the time) and eventually IDW branched out to become it's own thing (before it was made canon to the games).

Apparently Infinite is trapped in the Phantom Ruby in Solaris knows where but Sega aren't afraid of showing him in other media (He is a playable character in Sonic Forces Speed Battle and played a major role in the Otherworld comedy), it's just IDW has pretty strict guidelines on what characters can appear and when (e.g The Hooligans, Mighty, Ray and Honey can only appear in the comics that take place in the classic era).

Pardon my long reply.
 
The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
Course correction, after the heavily mixed (which later became negative) reception of Forces the IDW writers were specifically instructured to keep the Force's references to a premium. Not just Infinite but the Rookie and even the Phantom Ruby weren't allowed to be mentioned by name let alone shown (at the time) and eventually IDW branched out to become it's own thing (before it was made canon to the games).
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Well light man at least recently is phantom ruby based technology, so I like to think he will come back
 
The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
The battle pretty much sums up why in some Sonic fan circles Forces is even more infamous than Sonic 06 or Boom Rise of Lyric.

*Infinite was sent to the frontlines with no backup from Metal, Sage or anyone else thus was clearly seen as expendable (After the first major cutscene of Forces with Infinite jumping Sonic with Phantom clones, he never uses that strategy again against Sonic nor the Rookie)
*He received a crushing defeat in a very embarrassing way despite his boasts and actually having great power (In Forces he got beaten by base Sonic, who spent six months locked up and a Rookie member of the resistance, who Infinite previously spared).
*The Phantom Ruby got crushed by Bowser after Kamek swiped it from Metal Sonic and it's never brought up again (Phantom Ruby went from Maina to Forces back to Maina and then just disappeared).

He is the Infinite potential guy, stated to be the strongest Sonic villain to date yet was simply just too weak to be relevant in the grand scheme of things (keep in mind he never actually used the REAL Phantom Ruby just a copy).


Course correction, after the heavily mixed (which later became negative) reception of Forces the IDW writers were specifically instructured to keep the Force's references to a premium. Not just Infinite but the Rookie and even the Phantom Ruby weren't allowed to be mentioned by name let alone shown (at the time) and eventually IDW branched out to become it's own thing (before it was made canon to the games).

Apparently Infinite is trapped in the Phantom Ruby in Solaris knows where but Sega aren't afraid of showing him in other media (He is a playable character in Sonic Forces Speed Battle and played a major role in the Otherworld comedy), it's just IDW has pretty strict guidelines on what characters can appear and when (e.g The Hooligans, Mighty, Ray and Honey can only appear in the comics that take place in the classic era).

Pardon my long reply.
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I've read around that people started offput due to perceiving Infinite as a tryhard, edgy, cooler than you villain (giving unfavorable comparisons to OCs), but then they kind of embraced that and were eager to see how far they ran away with that very same concept and began to enjoy him for the same reasons (especially as his theme came out), but were disappointed once the game came out and his performance was underwhelming. But then came the stance that Infinite may always have been a parody or jab at those same types of edgy, tryhard fan characters all along, so some people warmed again to him in that regard. Dunno if there's any truth to this, but it's interesting to think about.

And he's voiced by Liam O'Brien. Like, he may speak nonsense, but he does it with such as smoo~~~~ooth voice.
 
The_Axiom_of_Virgo said:
The battle pretty much sums up why in some Sonic fan circles Forces is even more infamous than Sonic 06 or Boom Rise of Lyric.

*Infinite was sent to the frontlines with no backup from Metal, Sage or anyone else thus was clearly seen as expendable (After the first major cutscene of Forces with Infinite jumping Sonic with Phantom clones, he never uses that strategy again against Sonic nor the Rookie)
*He received a crushing defeat in a very embarrassing way despite his boasts and actually having great power (In Forces he got beaten by base Sonic, who spent six months locked up and a Rookie member of the resistance, who Infinite previously spared).
*The Phantom Ruby got crushed by Bowser after Kamek swiped it from Metal Sonic and it's never brought up again (Phantom Ruby went from Maina to Forces back to Maina and then just disappeared).

He is the Infinite potential guy, stated to be the strongest Sonic villain to date yet was simply just too weak to be relevant in the grand scheme of things (keep in mind he never actually used the REAL Phantom Ruby just a copy).


Course correction, after the heavily mixed (which later became negative) reception of Forces the IDW writers were specifically instructured to keep the Force's references to a premium. Not just Infinite but the Rookie and even the Phantom Ruby weren't allowed to be mentioned by name let alone shown (at the time) and eventually IDW branched out to become it's own thing (before it was made canon to the games).

Apparently Infinite is trapped in the Phantom Ruby in Solaris knows where but Sega aren't afraid of showing him in other media (He is a playable character in Sonic Forces Speed Battle and played a major role in the Otherworld comedy), it's just IDW has pretty strict guidelines on what characters can appear and when (e.g The Hooligans, Mighty, Ray and Honey can only appear in the comics that take place in the classic era).

Pardon my long reply.
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Forces is like THE game that mindbroke Sonic fans, but the game isn't really that bad in all honesty. It's just pretty mediocre, and a waste of perfectly great ingredients.
 
Not to mention that Cell getting 2-C is already iffy because it’s just him getting stronger and being confident in fighting Goku post Kid Buu.
 
JJSliderman said:
Not to mention that Cell getting 2-C is already iffy because it’s just him getting stronger and being confident in fighting Goku post Kid Buu.
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Ehh, Gero and Myuu personally tasked Cell and Frieza with dealing with Goku, when Rilldo was also part of their army, so there's an argument for those two being >Rilldo.
 
I'm at a point where I'm staring to wonder if the format of a show like Death Battle is just inherently limiting sadly.
 
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