DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

[JoshDoshMosh]

I still think a character that can lift mountains is wild and awesome.

It really comes down to presentation, yknow?

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

It really comes down to presentation, yknow?

Can Silver The Hedgehog lift mountains?

 

[XXBenShapiroXx]

Good blog.

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

Can Silver The Hedgehog lift mountains?

Yes.

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

Yes.

That's wild and awesome.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Giving 18 to suck energy even though she never has used it ever

She did with Krillin

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Thats official?

 

[JoshDoshMosh]

They’re def doing it

 

[TMaakkonen]

JokerGiorno at 1.3 mil views. Its low but not the worst. OmnimanBardock at 1.8 mil views.

 

[BlackDarkness679]

JokerGiorno at 1.3 mil views. Its low but not the worst. OmnimanBardock at 1.8 mil views.

So we count them as good taking all in account?

 

[TMaakkonen]

So we count them as good taking all in account?

Omnidock sure, Joker is bit low.

 

[Theuser789]

Yeah, the G1 Blog is what I expected. 50/50 with a Bowser W.

 

[Tyranno223]

Yeah, the G1 Blog is what I expected. 50/50 with a Bowser W.

Another contender for "closest match up".

 

[Electronic74947]

Good blog, I do think they downplayed their respective cosmologies a bit.

 

[Dust_Collector]

Pure Hearts amplified characters: 12 times universal and 66.65 to 112.8 quadrillion C
Super form level characters: Vaguely above 13 times universal and 122 to 183 quadrillion C

Damn so still fodder to above 2 million times universal and 978 quadrillion C Ganondorf, who scales above Null who is far inferior to the Triforce of Power yet superior to all 3 Golden Goddesses combined

 

[Tyranno223]

Damn so still fodder to above 2 million times universal and 978 quadrillion C Ganondorf, who scales above Null who is far inferior to the Triforce of Power yet superior to all 3 Golden Goddesses combined

I really need to keep up more with Zelda. When was this a thing?

 

[Theuser789]

Good blog, I do think they downplayed their respective cosmologies a bit.

I disliked how they dismissed 2-B/A cosmology and most infinite/immeasurable arguments for Sonic just because it was "vague" most of the time. It felt like they just did that to make it fair for Bowser tbh.

 

[Dust_Collector]

I really need to keep up more with Zelda. When was this a thing?

It's really not a thing just Zelda power scalers going with the highest ends without really thinking about it lol. The null scaling to the goddesses thing I brought up in my comment falls apart during the ending of the game, bro explictly cannot perform feats even remotely close to their level without using something containing their power, but for some reason his sealing hax affecting them somehow gets equated to him physically being stronger than all 3 of them combined.

 

[WCMM]

Most large munitions are at least multi-city block level, right?

No. The upper limits of small building level is about where things like powerful missiles and naval artillery pieces tap out. We have some bombs in the building to large building level ranges, but they work by created special shockwave effects, and are only really good for large demolition. In real life, it's actually really difficult to make things that fall below the smallest nukes (small town level) but above the largest guns (small building level).

The way we achieve mass destruction in real life is just through the sheer amount of ordinance we use over time.

 

[Theuser789]

like my comment if u think that g1 blog was ass

It wasn't ass, but they missed key stuff (Jade Ghost being able to steal items like Boos) and I didn't like how high-tier Sonic was excluded seemingly to make it a fairer fight rather than it not being legit.

 

[Theuser789]

i mean they kinda had no choice
because it would have been a blitz

Death Battle already had stomps before. Either you have a counter argument or don't mention it.

 

[ShionAH]

Did Death Battle EVER use the site as evidence? Like ever referenced it?

 

[ShionAH]

in g1 blog yeah

how does g1 blog even work, do they work with deathbattle or is it fanmade

 

[Tyranno223]

how does g1 blog even work, do they work with deathbattle or is it fanmade

Separate thing I'm pretty sure, although some members of G1 are part of the DB research team I believe.

 

[Robo432343]

Death Battle already had stomps before. Either you have a counter argument or don't mention it.

it was annoying how they said tails hypothesis was still just a hypothesis to try and run from 2-A stuff

 

[BlackDarkness679]

Did Death Battle EVER use the site as evidence? Like ever referenced it?

Sometimes when linking to calcs or explanations on some things, some threads i made were linked when having Q & A still a thing

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

In fairness to the G1 blog: Tails' statement was a hypothetical assumption, and if there's no in game implications of there being an infinite amount of timelines then I can understand why they wouldn't use it.

Now of course you could argue that Tails is a reputable enough source of information where such a statement could be taken seriously, but I guess it's still a better than safe situation since Tails only there could be an infinite amount of timelines.

 

[TheGatememer]

Did Death Battle EVER use the site as evidence? Like ever referenced it?

Technically, they used a scan that could only be found in my sandbox in a QnA

 

[Theuser789]

Alright. I read the G1 blog. Not to be biased but I thought the Eggman arguments were much better than the Bowser ones. Bowser people had no answer to Sage's sealing or the Egg Field, while Eggman's side countered everything except Spirit Balls (since the "flashlight" Luigi uses is special Dark Light, not a regular one) and maybe transmutation. They're also fairer on the stats, too.

 

[ZeNoviceArtist]

Just 4 hours left.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

That might be a you problem. I still find the latter impressive when I'm watching a show.

 

[TartaChocholate]

Did Death Battle EVER use the site as evidence? Like ever referenced it?

I remember that for Link vs Cloud 2 they actually used some of my vids on Cloud's profile for his presentation (it's easy to tell they are the same when noticing the HP and MP at the battle menu are the exact same), and the explanation on Supernova destroying dimensions was a translation I requested to Chocomilkalex and was using in the profiles as well. Also in one of the QA blogs regarding the results while addressing the question if Cloud would be able to bypass LInk's intangibility when Link uses his Magic Cape actually responded by linking another of my vids of Cloud destroying ghosts.

 

[TartaChocholate]

That might be a you problem. I still find the latter impressive when I'm watching a show.

Yeh... I still remember than in my pre VS wiki days (essentially before I got into VS debating altogether), I thought that Planet busting and surpassing lightspeed was the absolute peak you could achieve, reserved to the heaviest hitters in fiction, Dragon Ball characters and superheroes. =P

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

I mean, in real terms, even something as "small" in cosmic terms as a Solar System is still incomprehensibly huge to human minds.

Like, if you've ever lived in the country, and you know lots of little interesting details about the land just around you, weird nooks and crannys, funny points in the landscape, then think about how the whole earth is covered in stuff like that, and that mars and venus and mercury all have pretty much similar amounts of quirks, then that Jupiter and gas giants have thousands of times the surface area, and that's not even getting into all the moons and asteroids, of which there are astronomical amounts, then remember that something like 98% of the Solar Systems mass is in the Sun, and then that the Solar System in totality is almost entirely empty space, and you may begin to get an idea of just how little you can really comprehend its vastness.

This reminds me of this video from Veritasium about how people don't really understand the scale of the universe.

 

[TartaChocholate]

It's really not a thing just Zelda power scalers going with the highest ends without really thinking about it lol. The null scaling to the goddesses thing I brought up in my comment falls apart during the ending of the game, bro explictly cannot perform feats even remotely close to their level without using something containing their power, but for some reason his sealing hax affecting them somehow gets equated to him physically being stronger than all 3 of them combined.

I mean... don't blame us, we got excited... >_>;

 

[The_Unknown_Warrior1]

My final thoughts on the episode before it fully releases: I am decently confident that Eggman and Bowser will be relative to each other the stat trinity, with Bowser edging out in strength while Eggman edges out in speed. Both will pretty much equal hax which will cancel each other's options to a very close degree, but Death Battle will argue that Bowser has certain abilities which Eggman has no reliable counter to.

I'm betting on Bowser winning this fight, but I shall forever root for the doctor's victory over the Koopa King.

 

[ShiftCtrlAltDeleteTabFn]

Yeh... I still remember than in my pre VS wiki days (essentially before I got into VS debating altogether), I thought that Planet busting and surpassing lightspeed was the absolute peak you could achieve, reserved to the heaviest hitters in fiction, Dragon Ball characters and superheroes. =P

That's what I thought too, but obviously things have changed. Funnily enough, I think getting into vs debating made me appreciate higher end feats more, but also somehow made "weaker" feats seem even more hype.

 

[Dust_Collector]

I mean... don't blame us, we got excited... >_>;

Listen I got excited too, all the pieces were falling into place for Null to be the strongest character in the series, then I got to the final boss and it turns out he's fodder to a single triforce piece and can't pull off a planet level feat even with an amp. Crazy how they basically pulled another Demise with Null lmao.

 

[Accelerated_Evolution]

Did Death Battle EVER use the site as evidence? Like ever referenced it?

Pretty sure they directly mentioned this wiki in one of the DB Casts