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Did you guys know that characters die in death battle?
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Uhh, no, I didn't reply because there was nothing there to reply to. You didn't bring up any counter arguement for my point on how characters can scale above what the story hypes them up to be, you brought Kai not having filler when it blatantly does and still includes things like Kid Buu being the strongest Buu, and then you made some random comparisons that's not at all alike to what we've been discussing.The fact you didnt even reply properly on those means you cant argue anything against them
LiarDid you guys know that characters die in death battle?
First of all im aware goku gets stronger over the series, its irrelevant in regards to Hit whom by the tournament of power was surpassed by most, even sparking zero what if story had Frieza beat Hit in ToPDo you seriously not know that Goku with just Blue is stronger than he was with KKx10 in his rematch with Hit? That's some of the most basic Super scaling.
Nowhere i claimed that, you just make up things and then associate them on me out of your mindEven worse, do you think Goku didn't get 10x stronger from U6 to the end of ToP?
Only time he ever did since then was in goku black saga, then a bunch of times with JirenDo you think he just suddenly can't use Kaioken despite doing so onscreen with higher multipliers than x10?
I cant take you seriously by thinking the cast is immeasurable by one feat vs several instances, once again supersonic verses are FTL by one feat only yes or no? Following your logic you got over hereI genuinely can't take anything you say seriously now if you are trying to argue what I think you are arguing.
Did you just use unironically use Sparking Zero as an arguement?First of all im aware goku gets stronger over the series, its irrelevant in regards to Hit whom by the tournament of power was surpassed by most, even sparking zero what if story had Frieza beat Hit in ToP
Nowhere i claimed that, you just make up things and then associate them on me out of your mind
Only time he ever did since then was in goku black saga, then a bunch of times with Jiren
I cant take you seriously by thinking the cast is immeasurable by one feat vs several instances, once again supersonic verses are FTL by one feat only yes or no? Following your logic you got over here
This gaslighting is what either Bowser or Eggman needs to win their upcoming fights by how much you giveI have responded and debunked literally every single point you've made at every turn.
Lies! Scooby Doo vs Courage showed me that they're simply knocked unconscious!Did you guys know that characters die in death battle?
I'm not gaslighting, you are just genuinely making nonsensical arguements and being snide about it.This gaslighting is what either Bowser or Eggman needs to win their upcoming fights by how much you give
Proof of these, if i see the link to such a thing, you have a point, till then noPeople have tried to argue the shockwaves to those speeds. Stupid site standards prevented those arguments from going through.
He has clear limits how fast he can go, the ones i mentioned arent to be brushed off just cuz you wanna believe in this agenda, even if that is true, its travel speed, not reaction or combat which dragon ball differentiateWhis being inconsistent with what he says his top speed is doesn't suddenly mean he didn't perform those feats. That's a ridiculous arguement.
Being casual means he didnt try ever till he clearly shown in that episode you pointed, he wasnt as casual to literally all, Hit fight he clearly put effort to break out, unlike the headcanon he was being Saitama in all of it except near endJiren was holding back massively throughout 99% of the tournament. He didn't actually use his full power until episode 129. So him mildly struggling, struggling less than he did UI Goku mind you, isn't at all a counter arguement.
Proof as above said or its just yappingPeople have been trying to make immeasurable speed a thing for DBS forever, and changing standards and loose assertions of outliers have made it near impossible. Hell the supporters just had a general discussion thread going over the arguements against immeasurable speed being an outlier.
Dude I'm done slogging through your arguements and insults. Stop clogging the thread and drop it.Proof of these, if i see the link to such a thing, you have a point, till then no
He has clear limits how fast he can go, the ones i mentioned arent to be brushed off just cuz you wanna believe in this agenda, even if that is true, its travel speed, not reaction or combat which dragon ball differentiate
Being casual means he didnt try ever till he clearly shown in that episode you pointed, he wasnt as casual to literally all, Hit fight he clearly put effort to break out, unlike the headcanon he was being Saitama in all of it except near end
Proof as above said or its just yapping
Yeah sure, you got nothing to counter, stop with these excuses, i have been a part of the vs community since 2015, you think i never seen those arguing like you before across internet? You got no arguments on those simple as thatUhh, no, I didn't reply because there was nothing there to reply to. You didn't bring up any counter arguement for my point on how characters can scale above what the story hypes them up to be, you brought Kai not having filler when it blatantly does and still includes things like Kid Buu being the strongest Buu, and then you made some random comparisons that's not at all alike to what we've been discussing.
Im good, i aint involving myself with their fans or group, its a pain to debate DBI'm not gaslighting, you are just genuinely making nonsensical arguements and being snide about it.
I'm going to stop replying so we stop clogging up the thread. If you want to keep arguing about this go to the Dragon Ball discussion thread.
I could counter them, as I've done with literally every single one of your other points, but you'd just respond with more nonsense stonewall and it'd never end. I'll just cut my losses and decide arguing with someone who tried to use a Sparking Zero what-if as an arguement is a waste of time.Yeah sure, you got nothing to counter, stop with these excuses, i have been a part of the vs community since 2015, you think i never seen those arguing like you before across internet? You got no arguments on those simple as that
Good, then you agree to stop talking about it.Im good, i aint involving myself with their fans or group, its a pain to debate DB
There is none because it's really impossible to be. Even calling it an "outlier" is more of a misnomer because it's not like statistics just ignores outliers as if they never happened with no explanation, they are either accepted as something that happened, but not a representative of the "average" population, a mistake that was wrongly input, or something that is not a part of what you want to measure, but is there nevertheless.What even is or isn't an outlier? Is there any agreed upon standard?
For FF, there's Advent Children and Kingslaive. Advent Children's visuals and animation certainly left its mark in people's minds (like 90% of Sephiroth's trailer in Smash were Advent Children iconic scenes and memes). I think Square Enix is also cautios with movies after what happened with Spirits Within.When's the Final Fantasy and Legend of Zelda film adaptations damn
Or creepy pasta MU's like Sonic.exe vs underfell sans or something.Any MU that based on a fad (e.g Among Us, Fall Guys, Palworld, etc).
Does FF7 Advent Children count? (the animation has aged pretty well and looks better than certain "modern day" animations).
Except you didnt as you claim, stop the gaslighting to yourselfI could counter them, as I've done with literally every single one of your other points
Says you? Imagine arguing immeasurable dragon ball, still no answer to my question, further shows you argue on DB only out of sheer bias and favoritism lolbut you'd just respond with more nonsense stonewall and it'd never end.
Sparking Zero tells the same story as the canon, with some what if timelines being existent from choices you make to alter it, so this argument to slander me over is lame from you and desperateI'll just cut my losses and decide arguing with someone who tried to use a Sparking Zero what-if as an arguement is a waste of time.
I agree you cant debate as you claim it, if you wanna stop talking over it, be my guests, cuz i have other things to do tjen waste my time with you anymoreGood, then you agree to stop talking about it.
Sparking Zero or it's what-ifs aren't canon lmaoExcept you didnt as you claim, stop the gaslighting to yourself
Says you? Imagine arguing immeasurable dragon ball, still no answer to my question, further shows you argue on DB only out of sheer bias and favoritism lol
Sparking Zero tells the same story as the canon, with some what if timelines being existent from choices you make to alter it, so this argument to slander me over is lame from you and desperate
I agree you cant debate as you claim it, if you wanna stop talking over it, be my guests, cuz i have other things to do tjen waste my time with you anymore
3 counts of felony tomfooleryWhat the hell happened
Neither is Toei DB or GT, yet ate brought up, so moot point and nitpicking at its finestSparking Zero or it's what-ifs aren't canon lmao
I wasnt and didnt have, you on the other hand another story, now you dont put and end to it? Why you continue it?You can't be an ass for no reason and also have bad arguements.
Neither is Toei DB or GT, yet ate brought up, so moot point and nitpicking at its finest
I wasnt and didnt have, you on the other hand another story, now you dont put and end to it? Why you continue it?
You dont need to show your face, the pfp is enough for that
Question: can Bowser or Eggman match Ganon's sweet dancing skills? Because that's one advantage he's got over them.
Eggman and Metal Sonic seeing the community consensus change from them being stomped to being insanely debatable even if they lose the episode:
MaldingYou dont need to show your face, the pfp is enough for that
I had no idea the community consensus beforehand was Bowser winning soundly.Who knew shit can change when folks actually do research on the other side
We truly were goofy doomers in the end.Who knew shit can change when folks actually do research on the other side
I mean, reality has the advantage of being, ya' know, real. Even errors are things that really exist. The faulty lab equipment, miscalculations, and artefacts you didn't account for are all real things that can be tracked down.The notion that you can just ignore something that happened without any care about it as an "outlier" is one of the many things VS Debating took from science that if you were to apply to science, you would be laughed at. (Like, one of the many things you do with outliers is try to explain how it happened, how it ended up on your sample to begin it, and find a source for it, while here Outliers just exist to be ignored as if they never existed).
You cant even follow your own words, liar with huge L, pathetic, add it to your collection of LsMalding
SeetheYou cant even follow your own words, liar with huge L, pathetic, add it to your collection of Ls
God, I really have high hopes that this episode will be an absolute banger. And I don't mind Bowser winning, because as long as it's through logical reasons and everything else slaps hard then I'll be happy.
God, I really have high hopes that this episode will be an absolute banger. And I don't mind Bowser winning, because as long as it's through logical reasons and everything else slaps hard then I'll be happy.
Well you can argue that some characters are faster than arale but this site doesn't do that.In fairness: Dyspo is a character who's so quick that not even Zeno, a character who's attacks can destroy the cosmology in mere moments and could perceive Goku's fight with Hit, can keep track of his speed.
Now that's not me saying Dyspo is faster than GoDs or Angels obviously, but what I'm saying is that Dyspo's speed is nothing to scoff at.
An easy answer: I'd be extremely pissed if they limited Eggman to Universal while Bowser gets Multiversal scaling.Okay, just for the hell of it, what would be the most upsetting arguments that they could bring up to make either Eggman or Bowser lose? Stuff like the super lava or the raddish.