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DEATH BATTLE! Discussion Thread (All-time Death Battle Spoilers Alert)

WCMM said:
I really wish I could see DB's actual calculations to analyze them directly.
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I think StyrmUltra worked backwards from their result, Speedy based his assumptions that the planet's gravity was comparable to black holes or stars, which is physically impossible.

docs.google.com

Tackling the Solar Disc Feat

Tackling the Solar Disk Feat Introduction to the Feat I admittedly made this in reaction to the Death Battle. Before it came out I thought the whole thing was a joke and there was no way Death Battle would take the feat seriously. To put it simply, Nolan wants to conquer the Savage Planet which...
docs.google.com docs.google.com

I think this is his doc, could be wrong
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
I think StyrmUltra worked backwards from their result, Speedy based his assumptions that the planet's gravity was comparable to black holes or stars, which is physically impossible.

docs.google.com

Tackling the Solar Disc Feat

Tackling the Solar Disk Feat Introduction to the Feat I admittedly made this in reaction to the Death Battle. Before it came out I thought the whole thing was a joke and there was no way Death Battle would take the feat seriously. To put it simply, Nolan wants to conquer the Savage Planet which...
docs.google.com docs.google.com

I think this is his doc, could be wrong
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No it ain't his doc that was a buddy of mine that did that
 
Looking at that, I think DB used some utterly absurd mass for the planet that wouldn't be physically possible irl. I could except that that's canon, but the problem is, that means accepting a physical situation so utterly absurd, that it throws their other physics based assumptions, like the disk being at the system's L1 point, into question.
 
WCMM said:
Looking at that, I think DB used some utterly absurd mass for the planet that wouldn't be physically possible irl. I could except that that's canon, but the problem is, that means accepting a physical situation so utterly absurd, that it throws their other physics based assumptions, like the disk being at the system's L1 point, into question.
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Yeah, reasonably the sun disc calc probably won't even reach Death Battle's viltrum bust result.

I'm fine with Nolan scaling to the entire bust at the end of the series, ignoring the complications caused by the ray gun and shit, but he just simply doesn't get beyond that.
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
I think StyrmUltra worked backwards from their result, Speedy based his assumptions that the planet's gravity was comparable to black holes or stars, which is physically impossible.

docs.google.com

Tackling the Solar Disc Feat

Tackling the Solar Disk Feat Introduction to the Feat I admittedly made this in reaction to the Death Battle. Before it came out I thought the whole thing was a joke and there was no way Death Battle would take the feat seriously. To put it simply, Nolan wants to conquer the Savage Planet which...
docs.google.com docs.google.com

I think this is his doc, could be wrong
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Now that I think about it (and I know this seems odd as someone who played devil's advocate for Sun Disk as a passive observer), but even if SD was true, shouldn't this kind of thing be written off as a colossal outlier?
 
Robo432343 said:
what if death battle uses 1-C eggman and 2-B bowser
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And then proceed to cite this site as their reference, ooooh boy the sheer amount of venom that would come out.
XXBenShapiroXx said:
I doubt it. I have a guy inside the discord server who said that the CRT that got Sonic that high was torn apart and laughed out the room by tons of people. It could've been in a private chat or something but he says 2A to maybe L1C is as high as Sonic gets in the server, which I agree with, but that doesn't make Ultraguy's argumentation for Bowser winning any better.

Have no idea about Boswer scaling tho
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Lol, it's kind of badass that you have your own inside agents.
 
Joycap said:
Now that I think about it (and I know this seems odd as someone who played devil's advocate for Sun Disk as a passive observer), but even if SD was true, shouldn't this kind of thing be written off as a colossal outlier?
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Not if you assume that Viltrum is super durable for some bizarre reason, like, say, it taking more than the Space Racer's gun to destroy it, despite said gun blowing up stars.
 
TartaChocholate said:
And then proceed to cite this site as their reference, ooooh boy the sheer amount of venom that would come out.

Lol, it's kind of badass that you have your own inside agents.
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I got them to give me the general consensus from the community closest to the DB crew. Like yesterday I asked them how split is Bowser and Eggman, and they both said 50/50.
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
I got them to give me the general consensus from the community closest to the DB crew. Like yesterday I asked them how split is Bowser and Eggman, and they both said 50/50.
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XXBenShapiroXx said:
It's a toss-up, most people in the server seem to agree in it being a coin flip, which is nice. They aren't 100% opposed to Bowser or Eggman winning at all.
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The kind of MU I like to see, love how this fight is such a toss up and in general nobody on either side would really mind if Bowser or Eggman win as long as the reasonings good

BlackDarkness679 said:
Also anyone even calced Viltrum busting? Since nobody calced it with any size bigger then Earth yet
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Don't think anyone outside DB really tried calcing it with anything larger than earth size
 
WCMM said:
Not if you assume that Viltrum is super durable for some bizarre reason, like, say, it taking more than the Space Racer's gun to destroy it, despite said gun blowing up stars.
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honestly the viltrum has to be some super durable planet logic to try and defend the logic of the sun disk is dumb given nothing remotely hints at the planet being special in any metric when its only 1.25x earths gravity its like saying Namek is something special because frieza couldn't outright nuke it despite having no issue sending planet vegeta to hell with a finger casually
 
Dust_Collector said:
The kind of MU I like to see, love how this fight is such a toss up and in general nobody on either side would really mind if Bowser or Eggman win as long as the reasonings good


Don't think anyone outside DB really tried calcing it with anything larger than earth size
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I mean I know a lot of people who won't accept Bowser winning at all
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
I doubt it. I have a guy inside the discord server who said that the CRT that got Sonic that high was torn apart and laughed out the room by tons of people.
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You would think for as much flak as the Sonic stats get, there would be people with the balls to try and do something about it
 
I am extremely sympathetic to that opinion towards this site, after Dragon Ball had to scratch and claw for hypertimeline shit, fighting through conveniently timed standard changes as soon as it got accepted.

I've gotten egg on my face multiple times trying to convince people 'oh it's not that bad' only for stupid shit to pass.
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
I feel homeless scaling wise sometimes. Don't agree with this site alot, don't agree with the wild west of power scaling subreddits.
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Me too. Reddit is still the worst one imo, because there is always at least one user wanking their favorite thing and claiming it’s outerversal on the flimsiest of basis. Like that guy who was trying to convince me that WoW bosses (all of them) are outerversal and infinite speed
 
Bigdongus said:
Me too. Reddit is still the worst one imo, because there is always at least one user wanking their favorite thing and claiming it’s outerversal on the flimsiest of basis. Like that guy who was trying to convince me that WoW bosses (all of them) are outerversal and infinite speed
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Bleach and OPM wankers are really bad right now on reddit

Profectus unleashed Pandora's box with his Harvard thesis on hypertimelines in Dragon Ball, because now everyone and their mother are stealing his flow bar for bar 😭💀
 
XXBenShapiroXx said:
I am extremely sympathetic to that opinion towards this site, after Dragon Ball had to scratch and claw for hypertimeline shit, fighting through conveniently timed standard changes as soon as it got accepted.
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I think the absolute worst part of that time period was how long it took for VBW to accept Immeasurable speed DBH.

Because every time it happened, as you said, the standards for immeasurable changed right as it got accepted and it would be nullified. And the fact that it happened twice is very sus in my opinion.

And that's ignoring other instances like 2-C Super/GT, multiple universe sized macrocosms, Moon level Roshi, and Tier 1 DB in any capacity.
 
What? But I thought he legitimately destroyed a moon, like, straight up. How did it take that long?
 
Dust_Collector said:
I keep forgetting that we had Roshi at like city level or something until, I think it was the very end of 2020 or the start of 2021.
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It took Seth the Programmer bullying and mocking VBW on stream to get Roshi to Moon Level. I mean it sucks that it took bad publicity and humiliation to correct such an objective wrong, but it's better than nothing I suppose.
 
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