STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Nichirin profile when

 

[Ped2018]

Nichirin profile when

When Brazil gets nuked

 

[EnderLord8]

When Brazil gets nuked

Unless Brazil Nuked you first

 

[Epiccheev]

When Brazil gets nuked

Working on it champ

 

[Ourosboros]

Working on it champ

Thank you Monsieur Cheev

Actually wait you're talking about nuking Brasil not making a profile for Nichirin, haha

I do not condone war crimes and violations of nuclear nonprofileration accords. You're not making a Nichirin profile, or?

 

[Pepsiman25th]

Rover is the strongest in the blizzard team

 

[ZillertheBucko]

I'm hoping that we get to see promoted rook again, probably against metal knight.

 

[Epiccheev]

You're not making a Nichirin profile, or

I can make one if no one else does it until sunday.

 

[Veronica]

Does Saitama lifting the black holes in the cover count as a feat?

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

I think someone stated herenthat it's lower than his usual strength

Anyway, no. Unless you want to get large size Boros (and I think Saitama too would have it)

 

[Emerald]

Does Saitama lifting the black holes in the cover count as a feat?

Nah
It's just a funny gag that the covers usually do

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Does Saitama lifting the black holes in the cover count as a feat?

it counts offsite

Anyway, no. Unless you want to get large size Boros (and I think Saitama too would have it)

the boros cover is symbolic for how Boros is above everyone on earth except Saitama
it's another Boros W

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Orochi doing something that looks like awakening breath
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[RinneItachi]

Orochi doing something that looks like awakening breath
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Trying to get people to agree over if Garou already knew it or copied it from Bang as a Monster is equivalent to trying to get people to agree about Saitama having infinite power or potential. Uphill battle here.

 

[RinneItachi]

Not bad. A bit clunky here and there but pretty cool.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Trying to get people to agree over if Garou already knew it or copied it from Bang as a Monster is equivalent to trying to get people to agree about Saitama having infinite power or potential. Uphill battle here.

Orochi didn't actually see garou use it at this point in the fight yet
it kinda just seems like Orochi already knew awakening breath
which is entirely possible considering he was a martial artist and probably knew more than "kick kick punch" before then
but the awakening breath effect is has a particular look to it, so it would be kinda weird if it's literally just normal breathing that he decided to draw at that moment.

 

[Ourosboros]

Not bad. A bit clunky here and there but pretty cool.

This line from Genos...

"I don't know who you are, but I don't like you"

is KILLING Me for some reason, I can't stop laughing

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

I'm sure a million people have tried this already but has there been a thread about Peak Garou before Cosmic Fear vs Orochi? They're in the same tier so I'm sure someone has tried it at some point.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Perfect fist Garou scales ridiculously higher than Orochi
Orochi is fodder and he’s just a stepping stone for people to scaling chain all over him that’s it. He has almost no viable matches in the verse because everyone stomps or gets stomped.
He could maybe fight ten second mode genos but he’d more than likely just get blasted to hell before being able to do shit.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Perfect fist Garou scales ridiculously higher than Orochi
Orochi is fodder and he’s just a stepping stone for people to scaling chain all over him that’s it. He has almost no viable matches in the verse because everyone stomps or gets stomped.
He could maybe fight ten second mode genos but he’d more than likely just get blasted to hell before being able to do shit.

Okay, what about just Monster Garou's First or Second forms? Would that be more fair?

 

[ZillertheBucko]

Okay, what about just Monster Garou's First or Second forms? Would that be more fair?

Any Garou before fighting Sage centipede gets stomped, and the Garou that fought Sage Centipede stomps.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Any Garou before fighting Sage centipede gets stomped, and the Garou that fought Sage Centipede stomps.

There's no middle ground at all? I don't believe that for a second.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

There's no middle ground at all? I don't believe that for a second.

Well there isn’t because the only reason he scales above orochi is fighting Sage centipede who is on another level entirely

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Well there isn’t because the only reason he scales above orochi is fighting Sage centipede who is on another level entirely

Isn't Sage Centipede's Calc way lower than Orochi's though?

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

Isn't Sage Centipede's Calc way lower than Orochi's though?

He still scales above him

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

He still scales above him

I see....

 

[Tural2004]

What do you guys think about gathering every single piece of evidence that indicates S-class and Dragon levels being tier 6 or at the very least, far stronger than their current ratings? It can be things nobody has brought up before, things that are already rejected, things that seem like a stretch or feats that are unscaleable alone. I will go first:

1) Demon levels are stated to be capable of destroying a whole city single-handedly which would mean it should be done in a reasonable time frame.

2) Darkshine's defensive power is invincible compared to his offensive power.

3) All three generals are comparable to each other and Geryuganshoop is 6-C.

4) Melzalgald was confident that he could survive a bombardment from Boros' ship.

5) Three generals can easily damage Boros' ship interior.

6) Atomic Samurai was confident to take Melzalgald head-on despite his first thought (however shakily) being that he was the one who destroyed A-city despite the gigantic ship right above his head. Only after Melzalgald's own statement about the ship does he conclude that Melzalgald doesn't seem strong enough to do that.

7) Homeless Emperor was always extremely casual during all of his appearances and is shown to perform far stronger feats than his High 7-A such as his aurora.

8) Black Sperm and Homeless Emperor can defeat anybody together which should include Gouketsu. And we know that HE is useless outside his firepower.

9) At least one of the cadres is stronger than Gouketsu according to the anime compus. Likely Rover since defeating him was enough to indicate that Saitama was the one who defeated Gouketsu and EC.

10) Rover can tank CSDSF which is superior to RASRF which is far superior to what Bang can perform alone. Bang at the time stated that sharpness had returned to his fists which should make it comparable to his prime which is stated to be unstoppable.

11) Orochi prioritized the person who defeated Rover over Psykos' struggle at her High 6-C form.

12) Psykos believed she could overpower Tatsumaki even though she should be aware of her feats against Boros' ship.

13) Vomited Fuhrer Ugly can overpower Tatsumaki who performed a 6-C feat moments prior.

14) Platinum Sperm was confident that he could defeat SSKM King in one hit who is strong enough to vaporize people that can content with his base form. His base form could vaporize Elder Centipede, who was far stronger than his previous form, in one hit. EC's base form is stronger than Carnage Mode which is stronger than his base form to the point where Genus believes nothing in this world could stop him despite previously believing that Saitama could contend with him.

15) Bang was contemplating who would win between Saitama and himself despite Saitama's meteor feat and thought he could defeat him if the latter was off guard.

 

[RinneItachi]

What do you guys think about gathering every single piece of evidence that indicates S-class and Dragon levels being tier 6 or at the very least, far stronger than their current ratings? It can be things nobody has brought up before, things that are already rejected, things that seem like a stretch or feats that are unscaleable alone. I will go first:

1) Demon levels are stated to be capable of destroying a whole city single-handedly which would mean it should be done in a reasonable time frame.

2) Darkshine's defensive power is invincible compared to his offensive power.

3) All three generals are comparable to each other and Geryuganshoop is 6-C.

4) Melzalgald was confident that he could survive a bombardment from Boros' ship.

5) Three generals can easily damage Boros' ship interior.

6) Atomic Samurai was confident to take Melzalgald head-on despite his first thought (however shakily) being that he was the one who destroyed A-city despite the gigantic ship right above his head. Only after Melzalgald's own statement about the ship does he conclude that Melzalgald doesn't seem strong enough to do that.

7) Homeless Emperor was always extremely casual during all of his appearances and is shown to perform far stronger feats than his High 7-A such as his aurora.

8) Black Sperm and Homeless Emperor can defeat anybody together which should include Gouketsu. And we know that HE is useless outside his firepower.

9) At least one of the cadres is stronger than Gouketsu according to the anime compus. Likely Rover since defeating him was enough to indicate that Saitama was the one who defeated Gouketsu and EC.

10) Rover can tank CSDSF which is superior to RASRF which is far superior to what Bang can perform alone. Bang at the time stated that sharpness had returned to his fists which should make it comparable to his prime which is stated to be unstoppable.

11) Orochi prioritized the person who defeated Rover over Psykos' struggle at her High 6-C form.

12) Psykos believed she could overpower Tatsumaki even though she should be aware of her feats against Boros' ship.

13) Vomited Fuhrer Ugly can overpower Tatsumaki who performed a 6-C feat moments prior.

14) Platinum Sperm was confident that he could defeat SSKM King in one hit who is strong enough to vaporize people that can content with his base form. His base form could vaporize Elder Centipede, who was far stronger than his previous form, in one hit. EC's base form is stronger than Carnage Mode which is stronger than his base form to the point where Genus believes nothing in this world could stop him despite previously believing that Saitama could contend with him.

15) Bang was contemplating who would win between Saitama and himself despite Saitama's meteor feat and thought he could defeat him if the latter was off guard.

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[Tural2004]

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I don't understand this gif.

 

[RinneItachi]

I don't understand this gif.

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[Tural2004]

I still don't understand. But I get it that you are making fun of me.

 

[RinneItachi]

I still don't understand. But I get it that you are making fun of me.

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[Marvel_Champion_07]

Demon levels are stated to be capable of destroying a whole city single-handedly which would mean it should be done in a reasonable time frame.

Dunno how quantifiable this is

which is stated to be unstoppable

Wasn't that statement made by Murata?

according to the anime compus

We almost never use the anime stuff for manga scaling

even though she should be aware of her feats against Boros' ship

Why?

who performed a 6-C feat moments prior

What?

Melzalgald was confident that he could survive a bombardment from Boros' ship

High-Mid Regen

EC's base form is stronger than Carnage Mode

That's just not true with our current scaling

All three generals are comparable to each other

1. Groribas is stronger than Geryuganshoop and Melzargard individually
2. Melzargard only somewhat scales in his Combined form

 

[Emerald]

1) Demon levels are stated to be capable of destroying a whole city single-handedly which would mean it should be done in a reasonable time frame.

Destroying a city doesn't necessarily equate to actually blowing it up like some DBZ villain. Being a threat to a city can also mean just destroy buildings, city blocks and kill a bunch of people with relative ease

2) Darkshine's defensive power is invincible compared to his offensive power.

Ok

3) All three generals are comparable to each other and Geryuganshoop is 6-C.

5) Three generals can easily damage Boros' ship interior.

Ok, although no one scales to the Generals at their peak other than Orochi

4) Melzalgald was confident that he could survive a bombardment from Boros' ship.

Inverse square law goes brrrrr

6) Atomic Samurai was confident to take Melzalgald head-on despite his first thought (however shakily) being that he was the one who destroyed A-city despite the gigantic ship right above his head. Only after Melzalgald's own statement about the ship does he conclude that Melzalgald doesn't seem strong enough to do that.

That's just AS talking out of his ass, considering that's the first monster that he has seen right after the city got destroyed he just assumed that it might have been Melz

8) Black Sperm and Homeless Emperor can defeat anybody together which should include Gouketsu. And we know that HE is useless outside his firepower.

Where is it stated that they can beat anyone?

9) At least one of the cadres is stronger than Gouketsu according to the anime compus. Likely Rover since defeating him was enough to indicate that Saitama was the one who defeated Gouketsu and EC.

We don't know which cadre they are talking about. Could be Gums to even Black Sperm or Psykos

10) Rover can tank CSDSF which is superior to RASRF which is far superior to what Bang can perform alone. Bang at the time stated that sharpness had returned to his fists which should make it comparable to his prime which is stated to be unstoppable.

I fail to see how that would make Rover tier 6

12) Psykos believed she could overpower Tatsumaki even though she should be aware of her feats against Boros' ship.

That's highly debatable

13) Vomited Fuhrer Ugly can overpower Tatsumaki who performed a 6-C feat moments prior.

Tats was weakened so nah

14) Platinum Sperm was confident that he could defeat SSKM King in one hit who is strong enough to vaporize people that can content with his base form. His base form could vaporize Elder Centipede, who was far stronger than his previous form, in one hit. EC's base form is stronger than Carnage Mode which is stronger than his base form to the point where Genus believes nothing in this world could stop him despite previously believing that Saitama could contend with him.

That's still 7-A (unless there are actual tier 6 feats)

15) Bang was contemplating who would win between Saitama and himself despite Saitama's meteor feat and thought he could defeat him if the latter was off guard.

When tho?

 

[Engine]

How? It doesn't seem right.

The size is calculated using feats.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

How? It doesn't seem right.

The size is calculated using feats.

The region of A-City is larger than the region of Z-City. That's not indicative of the sizes of the actual cities themselves

Okay, to go over this for the fifth time:

• Beefcake/Biceps King, a 270 meter giant, destroys a ton of City B when he dies. The same giant also destroyed City D, and do mean destroyed
• Mosquito Girl has a 50 kilometer range and mentions the surrounding forests
• The House of Evolution is located in the wilderness.
• Even in the anime there's giant uninhabited regions
• Sonic is training in the woods and there's multiple examples of bonus chapters that take place in various wilderness regions not around City-Z
• Genos mentions multiple surrounding towns near City-Z
• A 1.5+ kilometer base is comparable to City Z (webcomic)
• Boros's ship completely destroys City A. "How do you know?" you ask, because the manga out right says 99.8% of the city was destroyed from this attack
• Tornado and Saitama's fight shows there's plenty of empty space between the cities (webcomic)
• In this space shot you cannot see any country sized cities
• When Elder Centipede goes into outer space you see vast tracks of completely uninhibited spaces and gaps between cities
• Garou's shockwave does not show any planet sized cities
• We see multiple space shots of City Z and there are not country sized cities

Quite literally every single point of evidence we have ever gotten says that there are zero cities the size of coutnries. The regions named after them are country sized. The cities themselves are not.

Also the Bofoi calc is using a non-canon manga panel, so I don't think its legit.

 

[Tural2004]

You guys completely ignored the part where I said let's include things that are rejected or seem like a stretch.

Dunno how quantifiable this is

It isn't. It just shows how demon levels are far stronger than what we give them credit for.

Being a threat to a city can also mean just destroy buildings, city blocks and kill a bunch of people with relative

I am not talking about the definition of demon levels. There is a databook statement that says demon levels can destroy a whole city single-handedly.

Wasn't that statement made by Murata?

It is. We use those statements as "possibly".

We almost never use the anime stuff for manga scaling

We do though unless the event has transpired differently in manga.

Why?

Because it was an event that was broadcast across the world and as far as I remember if we go by databook, the whole thing was recorded and attributed to S-class (Tatsumaki)

What?

Tatsumaki's drill.

High-Mid Regen

I am aware of that. I am not suggesting he should fully scale since the same bombardment was intented to kill S-class. I am saying he should downscale since he still needs his orbs.

That's just not true with our current scaling

I think it should be. But either way, EC's second key is stronger.

Ok, although no one scales to the Generals at their peak other than Orochi

That's something that can be debated later on.

Inverse square law goes brrrrr

Concentrated bombardment goes brrr. No seriously, we can just calculate it.

considering that's the first monster that he has seen right after the city got destroyed he just assumed that it might have been Melz

And he thought he can take someone like that head on.

Where is it stated that they can beat anyone?

It was stated by Psykos.

We don't know which cadre they are talking about. Could be Gums to even Black Sperm or Psykos

But we can take a guess. Besides, the second part of my argument should still be enough by itself.

fail to see how that would make Rover tier 6

It doesn't with the current wiki stantards. I am just saying he is far stronger than what he is rated as.

That's highly debatable

Indeed.

Tats was weakened so nah

She was weakened during both feats and Tatsumaki doesn't get injured further between them.

That's still 7-A (unless there are actual tier 6 feats)

I know. One of things I dislike about vsbattles. Once again, this is just to say that they are stronger than their current ratings.

When tho?

Ova 4.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

We do though unless the event has transpired differently in manga.

No

Tatsumaki's drill.

Hmm

I am suggesting he should fully scale since the same bombardment was intented to kill S-class. I am saying he should downscale since he still needs his orbs.

Downscale from a bombardment that would one-shot kill the S-Class Heroes that he was struggling against? Idk about that

I think it should be

Then make a CRT

 

[Tural2004]

No

Yes

Downscale from a bombardment that would one-shot kill the S-Class Heroes that he was struggling against? Idk about that

I miswrote the first sentence. Either way, one-shotting was his plan, not necesserily what would happen.

Then make a CRT

Nah, it was just a throwaway comment. I don't care enough about that to make a CRT

 

[Ourosboros]

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