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Honestly bug god is definitely stronger than rhino wrestler too
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Royal Ripper is likely a bit stronger but I think Genos should take this through range, versatility, and flight.
Mid to High-Dif.
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Could that be argued to scale BG's durability to 2x RR's AP due to WSRF deflecting stuff with 2x the strength
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I was looking over some of the profiles and some people are high 7-C such a Pig God and G5 when most people scale to just 7-C. What High 7-C feat to they scale to?
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I still say that it's just an expression in the same vein as 'return ten-fold', since we see in the manga, the anime, and the diagram in that same panel that Garou just punched TTM, whose punching hand is past Garou when the strike occurs.
But, since, we accept that, I guess that's fair.
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In your opinion, who are examples of the strongest characters in each of these categories (Considering humans as well)?
Above Dragon:
Dragon:
Demon:
Tiger:
Wolf:
Above Dragon:
Dragon:
Demon:
Tiger:
Wolf:
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Above Dragon: Meteoric Burst Boros
Dragon: Platinum Sperm
Demon: Beefcake
Tiger: irrelevant
Wolf: irrelevant
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Just in case you mind, in the same databook it's stated Tatsumaki is the greatest esper ever, Atomic Samurai can cut matter down to atoms, and Genos knows about Saitama vs Boros fight
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Easy, In the case of the heroes, the databook is an advertisement for the hero association, as for Genos knowing about Saitama vs Boros, how much does he know exactly? That Boros was the strongest guy Saitama ever fought? I'm so sorry Genos is a terrible powerscaler.
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Genos knew Saitama used a serious punch to disperse an attack capable of destroying/shaving the planet
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anything the hero association can’t canonically know about might as well just be WoG, and stuff they do know about is unreliable (mainly because of Saitama and King)
in other words Geryuganshoop > Foddsumaki
in other words Geryuganshoop > Foddsumaki
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Of course when something we’ve always gone with is suddenly used for Boros there’s probably going to be a horde of people saying we should stop doing it entirely, that’s just how it goes with this stuff and I’ve come to accept it.
I hope team Boros gets to pull one of those against the Tatsumaki fans at some point though
I hope team Boros gets to pull one of those against the Tatsumaki fans at some point though
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I mean, I don't care about a databook being used, but if you state a Databook only has reliable information when it makes Boros scale higher and use it to scale Boros to a character whose power was completely unknown back then makes me doubt about its usage...
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Which Genos?
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Wait-, I've noticed about something
"The battle between the strongest in humanity and strongest in the universe"
Tatsumaki is part of humanity. Boros being the "strongest in the universe" does not counter humanity because of how the statement is made (and because otherwise that'd include Saitama). So... it seems the statement does not include Tatsumaki at all
"The battle between the strongest in humanity and strongest in the universe"
Tatsumaki is part of humanity. Boros being the "strongest in the universe" does not counter humanity because of how the statement is made (and because otherwise that'd include Saitama). So... it seems the statement does not include Tatsumaki at all
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Her power was unknown, all that’s known is just that Boros was stronger
And besides, Tatsumaki canonically used her full strength against saitama long before he fought Boros, so you can’t even really argue she’s like Saitama where her full strength was never used in universe at that point in time.
It’s canon, and it’s not from an unreliable narrator (hero association) so it’s useable
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Where did you even get this from
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Genos knows about Saitama being capable of deflecting a planet shaving attack
Genos doubts Saitama could defeat Gouketsu
If words for Boros is canon, then Genos' knowledge also is canon
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And where does it say that Genos knew about the serious punch? So far I've seen only one vague statement... Now, remember that Genos is a terrible powerscaler.
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Genos’ knowledge is not canon because he canonically didn’t witness the fight, that’s the entire reason we aren’t caring about the hero association part of the guidebook
have you been paying attention dawg?
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Ah, I must have ****** up when applying the changes
Psykojet begins the scaling chain and she should scale to High 7-C instead of 7-A
Atomic Samurai cuts Psycos beams, but the explosions are smaller than before
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I mean Saitama vs Boros is narrated by Genos in the databook tho
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this is new for me... Link?
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Well yes, but Genos in the series doesn’t know, because he didn’t ACTUALLY witness it is the point.
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Ok, so Hero Association isn't Canon, Genos narrating the fight isn't Canon, but Boros scaling to Tatsumaki is Canon...
Also, I want to see your opinion of this
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This doesn't change the fact that Genos is a terrible powerscaler, I remember this was discussed before at some point and was dismissed as Genos not being really reliable, but I don't have the patience to look into that right now because I don't have time for it. ..
It would be nice if some kind soul could find where this was discussed...
It would be nice if some kind soul could find where this was discussed...
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To me it just means that in this instance the databook is inconsistent with the manga continuity and should be ignored 
Genos isn't a "terrible powerscaler" he just doesn't have as much information as the audience
For him, until the later parts of the MA arc Saitama's greatest feat was destroying the meteor
Genos isn't a "terrible powerscaler" he just doesn't have as much information as the audience
For him, until the later parts of the MA arc Saitama's greatest feat was destroying the meteor
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Talking about that... in the manga Genos also knows Saitama faced a threat capable of destroying the Earth. I think Genos' scaling, even for a possibly, should be deleted
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Because both of those are in-universe sources that don’t actually have knowledge of Saitama vs Boros, while all that’s left is just a literal databook, which is word of god.
Saitama is the obvious exception, given that he’s literally an anomaly in the universe to god himself, and also is the one who defeats Boros but more importantly, the guidebook also says that they’re the 2 who fulfill the prophecy, meaning Tatsumaki still wouldn’t have done shit if Saitama wasn’t there
And also it’s stated 3 times that Boros is the strongest in the universe.
Not to mention, Saitama defeating Boros only comes on the next page, and that’s how we treat the 7-B carnage Kabuto guidebook statement as well, so…
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The prophecy is vague and both the prophecy and Genos don't mean that the threat itself would blow up the planet instantly
It also heavily depends on translation
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There is no source in your words that Saitama is the only exception
And if Saitama was the only exception, then that'd mean Blast, who even if he wasn't in the universe, still is part of the humanity, isn't. So... sorry but no
Yeah, and Boros in the manga states that prophecies can't be trusted at all. This also contradicts manga, so, as the other things you said, it's not canon?
Headcanon
The strongest in the universe, but without including humanity
Another proof that it's not reliable. Good you mentioned it
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Ah that makes more sense. I was looking everywhere for who scales to whom on that.Ah, I must have ****** up when applying the changes
Psykojet begins the scaling chain and she should scale to High 7-C instead of 7-A
Atomic Samurai cuts Psycos beams, but the explosions are smaller than before
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Yeah, the alternative was literally scaling everyone to 7-B+ or 7-A
And while I think 7-A Iaian is based I can't really say it's correct lol
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