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are there any mention of non-exist/exist as duality or anything similar?

can help with giving types of nep
Yes, Skadi talks about duality in Imaginary Scramble. She specifically mentions that the Void Space is more akin to a primordial chaos or nothingness that everything spawns from. I'd have to recheck as this is from memory, but a duality system is mentioned.
 
Africa is kinda ostracized in Nasuverse, so it is like "maybe soon, maybe never"...

Well it has a chance considering we already have sheba

and Shaka was confirmed in one of the series I believe.

plus we have that zombie girl too.

so it isn’t like Africa isn’t mentioned/unknown in nasuverse
 
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foreigners among us.
 
Yes, Skadi talks about duality in Imaginary Scramble. She specifically mentions that the Void Space is more akin to a primordial chaos or nothingness that everything spawns from. I'd have to recheck as this is from memory, but a duality system is mentioned.
i mean duality of existence and not existence

that one looks like just nondual that happens to be nep

Like need any sentence where those were compared to each other
 
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Care to elaborate? I don't think I understood what you meant

I don't know if you are refering to things like "non-existence > existence" as far as "concept size" (IIRC it is a Lacanian/Foucalt idea) or whether you are asking if there was ever any mention of non-exitence/existence being polar opposites in Fate.


Most apophatic theology I know about uses this resource BECAUSE the object is considered at least in part indescribable.

But, those are separate issues - imagine a situation where you, for example, have a patient with heart failure. You may not know the cause of this specific thing, therefore cannot cataphaticly described it, but you do know that it's not, for example, a broken bone that is causing it. You can therefore deny the broken bone" hypothesis, but cannot affirm any hypothesis. But, in this case, there exists one hypothesis that is the cause of the thing that can be affirmed, it just is not known.

When such afffirmative hypothesis is non existent by the very nature & essence of the object, you end up with something similar to what most apophatic theology considers to be "divine/god". This ties in with Imaginary Scramble, actually. The chaos that is such because it is in an unobserved state vs true chaos that surrounds everything.
hmm, got it. So we need a statement like "this thing is so extreme that it transcends everything and cannot be described by any word" for apophatic theology right?
 
hmm, got it. So we need a statement like "this thing is so extreme that it transcends everything and cannot be described by any word" for apophatic theology right?
"There is something that we called .... as there can't be any reference, our words can't reach ...... as they too weak, the only way to describe ...... is throw negation"
 
isn't parabramhan apophatic then? It transcends all conceptualizations and descriptions
Not one of the most informed on Hindu philo/theology, but most religions have a branch of it that describes it as apophatic. Even christianity and islamic religions.
So, even if the most common description may not be necessarily apophatic, the chances of there being one is very high.
 
"There is something that we called .... as there can't be any reference, our words can't reach ...... as they too weak, the only way to describe ...... is throw negation"

"If you really wished to pronounce this term, call it "Kara".
Its meaning varied depending on each individual's understanding. To put it in simple terms, it was the Spiral of Origin.
However, since the Spiral of Origin was called the Spiral of Origin, it was no longer [ ]."
 
"If you really wished to pronounce this term, call it "Kara".
Its meaning varied depending on each individual's understanding. To put it in simple terms, it was the Spiral of Origin.
However, since the Spiral of Origin was called the Spiral of Origin, it was no longer [ ]."
That also work but if Issei ask for apophatic definition aside from root
 
Guys, if Sasaki Kojirou (Assesin) in his prime from FGO went to have her rematch against Saber in Fate Ubw, would he win?

I mean, pretty much his stats would be higher, his speed would be too much for Saber to handle, since Inmensurable speed, and he was a le to compete with Saber Emperio which is a considerable feat tho
 
Guys, if Sasaki Kojirou (Assesin) in his prime from FGO went to have her rematch against Saber in Fate Ubw, would he win?

I mean, pretty much his stats would be higher, his speed would be too much for Saber to handle, since Inmensurable speed, and he was a le to compete with Saber Emperio which is a considerable feat tho
Don't see how anything would change from the original encounter. Unless you change the entirety of the scene, that is how it would play as long as it is any Kojiro vs Artoria Saber.
 
Don't see how anything would change from the original encounter. Unless you change the entirety of the scene, that is how it would play as long as it is any Kojiro vs Artoria Saber.
Don't think so.

Sasaki at his prime is High 6-C, while UBW Saber is 6-C at most (without counting her tier 1 amps, but as of his UBW self, it doesn't have them).

He was able to fight Saber Emperio which would ridicule UBW Artoria and Heracles (without the latter using Nine lives obv)

Only tier 1 thing having on her being Avalon, which is only defensive.


And it was stated that he would have killed her if his sword striked her. So in that moment he had enough AP to Pierce through Sabers durability
 
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this is funny because Van Gogh actually was inspired by hokusai’s work in real life (he did view the great wave) before he did starry night


real life Van Gogh, you could say, was one of the first weebs (he collected Japanese prints)
 
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this is funny because Van Gogh actually was inspired by hokusai’s work in real life (he did view the great wave) before he did starry night


real life Van Gogh, you could say, was one of the first weebs (he collected Japanese prints)
Thoughts on what I said about Assesin?
 
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this is funny because Van Gogh actually was inspired by hokusai’s work in real life (he did view the great wave) before he did starry night


real life Van Gogh, you could say, was one of the first weebs (he collected Japanese prints)
Besides, funny enough I got Van Gogh and Nemo in the recent limited time event of FGO.

Also, can't imagine Van Gogh being a weeb
 
i mean he's kinda right, japanese art back then was really good so i'm pretty sure it's hard not to agree with him on that.

i'm pretty sure a lot of artist's back then admired the art style and would copy it a bit.
We can't blame him, Asian art was always admired by the West since Medieval times.

A Japanese person is treated with respect wherever they go.
 
We can't blame him, Asian art was always admired by the West since Medieval times.

A Japanese person is treated with respect wherever they go.

it also helps that Japanese people are respectful and polite.

As for the art I think it was because it was exotic and different compared to western art.
 
it also helps that Japanese people are respectful and polite.

As for the art I think it was because it was exotic and different compared to western art.
True, true. Exoticness is what catches attention.

And yes, Japanese are so respectful in their way. Like elders/old people are treated like gold there.

Besides, kinda sad Native American art and African ones were not so catchy in their eyes.

However, I feel flattered we at least got some Servants inspired in them such as Quezalcoat
 
Speaking of Imaginary Scramble... I got Yang Guifei. I wanted MHXX (She's one of my favorite Artoria's behind Salter & LArtoria), but Yang's cute and I heard is good, so I'll take her.
 
Speaking of Imaginary Scramble... I got Yang Guifei. I wanted MHXX (She's one of my favorite Artoria's behind Salter & LArtoria), but Yang's cute and I heard is good, so I'll take her.
Damn, just got Nemo and Van Gogh.

Van Gogh is just lame ass. Nemo is peak
 
Nice to hear migue.

did you ever want to get Van Gogh?
Tbh? Nah. I don’t like her much. Makes me feel uncomfortable.

And I’ll probs just wait until Nemo gets into another banner to roll for him. Wish he got the development he gets in this event outside of it since he’s really cool here. But oh well…
 
Tbh? Nah. I don’t like her much. Makes me feel uncomfortable.

And I’ll probs just wait until Nemo gets into another banner to roll for him. Wish he got the development he gets in this event outside of it since he’s really cool here. But oh well…
Nemo won't dissapoint you, I can assure you that.

His attacks deal a lot of damage actually.

Lucky me I got him at the first try tho.
 
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