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nah maybe he just had a higher ceilling to naturally grow
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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What you gonna do with him
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Well he does say “beyond the limits of living flesh”
and his entire backstory is literally just “Saitama but evil” as well as being the strongest of his race.
Plus his armor reminds me a lot of limiters preventing him from getting as strong as he wants.
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Well yeah but it works by pushing him to his absolute limit, he even uses the word “limit” in reference to it
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Me ignoring your opinion
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Suddenly, according to the fandom, all characters have their limiter broken: Watchdog Man, Boros, Metal Bat, Garou, Blast...
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Blast has done or said nothing to show that he has limit breaking potential, and admittedly neither does watchdog man beyond pure speculation
Also Garou’s is quite literally stated so like don’t even use that example
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I think the MB allows him to go past his limit, but it doesn't break them.
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actually that might be fair enough
he could be in the state where garou was at during the darkshine fight where his limiter was basically weakened but he had to do more to break it. But if somehow he regenerated from the sp^2 and got his funny zenkai then that could explain “Boris” existing, and maybe by then he would have a broken limiter. Or at least, that makes more sense than Boros being 4-A during the fight with Saitama.
That’s speculative and I’m aware, so don’t dunk on me for it.
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It was stated he started to break it, not that he succesfully removed it
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Well if his limit started getting pushed around 7-B, and then later he becomes a complete monster tens of thousands of times stronger or something like that, and probably trillions stronger than that when he becomes 4-A (arguably higher) then I think he’s had it broken for quite a long time, especially since he specifically wanted garou to be his avatar, as opposed to just a minion or someone he gives an amp to
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Just saying it’s not your strongest example of someone who has no limiter break, lol
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The best feat he had without God intervention is 6-A, something far lower than Saitama's value before breaking its limiter.
That's because of God's power, not something he achieved himself alone
Well, God also wanted Tatsumaki as its avatar, yet Tatsumaki hadn't destroyed his limiter, so that is not proof.
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Oh, forgot Garou's 5-C feat lol
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Every person has their own limiter, which is why most normal people can’t be darkshine level even if darkshine’s limiter isn’t broken. If Garou’s limiter was at 7-B, then he broke it by the time he perfected his fist. Also I’m pretty sure Saitama was not even fighting demon levels by the time he broke his limiter so like, lol
Then it could be argued that god broke his limiter for him, seeing as he probably has control over limiters in the first place
Wasn’t he just gonna give her the homeless emperor treatment?
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Saitama has beaten during his training threats of the level of the MA though, so you are right, he wasn't only beating Demon levels, he was beating Dragons
Speculation at best
No? He appeared as Blast and offered her his hand, the same exact thing he did to Garou. To Homeless Emperor he just appeared as an ominous figure, gave him light powers without touching him and told him to annihilate humanity.
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They can be, with training, or monsterification (which doesn't count as breaking your limit btw). Darkshine was 10-C and became 7-B through pure training, and his will sucks. So...
He didn't completely remove his limiter there. He was breaking it, but He didn't remove his limiter until 3 years of training, and before that, he was comparable to Above Dragon level threads
Nah. For now, the consequence of removing your limiter is the exponential growth: did Garou have it? No. Then, did He break his limiter? No. Simple
He wanted Tatsumaki to touch his hand, which is the same He did with Garou, so no
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pretty sure it’s directly stated that S class heroes with born with limiters high enough to reach the power they’re at
Scan?
My brother in Christ. The. The graph.
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Also there’s no rule saying that limit break = exponential growth
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Nah we're straight up shown that while at a slightly slower rate, he has exponential growth just like Saitama. That's pretty much THE key indicator of a broken limiter, unending, exponential growth.
The graph shows Garou has exponential growth, it's only minutely slower than Saitama's and starts off on a lower level.
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Given every time we see a broken limiter the creature's power grows exponentially (Garou in his monster forms, Cosmic Fear Mode Garou, Saitama all grow at a seemingly exponential rate.)
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Garou didn't have exponential growth, he was just copying Saitama's power.
He never reached Saitama because at the time Garou copied Saitama's power, Saitama has already grown stronger.
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Watch Saitama's profile
Power Mimicry, not Accelerated Development
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He was copying because his exponential growth wasn't fast enough. But I'd also like to note that if he was just copying Saitama, the graph would not be exponential, it would spike up instead of just a clean exponential growth. Unless his RE was = to Saitama's in the first place, which we know isn't true.
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well there is a bit of a mathematical conundrum with the graph. On one hand the line clearly goes exponentially instead of jumping from point a to point b to point c, but also there should be some kind of jumping because garou was seemingly copying Saitama during that
perhaps there was no copying, which is more likely than there being no growth, since no matter what, we know that Garou would have been growing even if it wasn’t exponential, so who knows. That part of the graph is most likely an inconsistency due to all of these factors, but we have see Garou making absolute insane jumps in small amounts of time, like when he jumped two entire tiers in maybe a couple minutes of fighting Saitama with his monster RE, and how he jumped from 7-B to 6-A especially
perhaps there was no copying, which is more likely than there being no growth, since no matter what, we know that Garou would have been growing even if it wasn’t exponential, so who knows. That part of the graph is most likely an inconsistency due to all of these factors, but we have see Garou making absolute insane jumps in small amounts of time, like when he jumped two entire tiers in maybe a couple minutes of fighting Saitama with his monster RE, and how he jumped from 7-B to 6-A especially
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No. He was copying, just that
Headcanon. It was pretty obvious Garou was copying Saitama:
"What's wrong? You said you were gonna copy me when I'm serious and surpass me"
"I'm countering him with as much power"
"Then I'll have to copy him limitlessly until I win"
There is no statement of Garou having exponential growth. Just Saitama
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But saying that Garou’s power mimicry simply makes him grow exponentially until he matches the opponent would be inconsistent too, since he clearly goes from high 4-C to 4-A (3-B lol) instantly in the sp^2, so that explanation’s wrong too
this is indeed quite troubling
this is indeed quite troubling
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Actually no, what he said is just mathematically correct, you learn above exponential stuff in middle school friend
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Garou's power mimicry does not make him grow exponentially. It just copies the opponent's power.
If Garou's power is 1 and opponent's power is 10, then Garou's power increases to 10 that's all, and that's what happened on his fight against Saitama
If Garou's power is 1 and opponent's power is 10, then Garou's power increases to 10 that's all, and that's what happened on his fight against Saitama
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Bro. You literally only pinged the Word Headcanon instead of debunking the arguments lmao.
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Except his line quite clearly shows that he goes exponentially, meaning that directly contradicts the graph
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I was pointing out a part of the message that annoyed me (because it was factually incorrect), that’s all
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But basic math principles tell you that this increase would be a straight line from 1-10 with an appropriate slope, not an explonential curve.
He did copy, but not at the point where the graph is shown. In fact, you proved my point. He was going to copy whatever Saitama's power was and then grow even further from there. His entire plan is to copy Saitama and then let his exponential growth do the rest.
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It's line going exponentially means nothing. It's just a representation of his copy ability.
In fact, if you want to represent it correctly, the function must be constant until it has a vertical discontinuity at the point he copied Saitama's power.
But instead of that, the author decided to represent 2 exponential functions. And the text saying clearly that Garou was copying Saitama's power and that he'll copy Saitama limitlessly without a mention of growth clearly proves that there is no exponential growth
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That's mathematically impossible though.
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