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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!

Qawsedf234 said:
Text only mentions stars and the like being restored. While we could see galaxies in the background I disagree with saying they destroyed any of them without better evidence.
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well I don't see why we can't have a "possibly 3-B" on there
since it is in fact, very possible. It's actually more likely than not due to how much of the panel that hole covers making it hard to believe no galaxies were cause in there, and that they destroyed the specific direction of space that had absolutely zero galaxies within it for all those lightyears
but I'd be very insistent to say that possibly 3-B is the most accurate and effective way to represent his power on the profile
 
ZillertheBucko said:
saitama's """""full power""""" serious punch at the start of the fight resulted in the 4-B to 3-B feat so, I think that the effects of either the RE or him just holding back less over time is not really quantifiable
unless we take the graphs as proof, then it's VERY quantifiable
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There’s no reason not to.
 
ZillertheBucko said:
well I don't see why we can't have a "possibly 3-B" on there
since it is in fact, very possible. It's actually more likely than not due to how much of the panel that hole covers making it hard to believe no galaxies were cause in there, and that they destroyed the specific direction of space that had absolutely zero galaxies within it for all those lightyears
but I'd be very insistent to say that possibly 3-B is the most accurate and effective way to represent his power on the profile
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It’s a more specific section of space where there would be viable galaxies than not. You can only see andromeda from the UK lol.

Also I disagree with it being a sphere but that takes ages to explain.
 
Tago238 said:
It’s a more specific section of space where there would be viable galaxies than not. You can only see andromeda from the UK lol.

Also I disagree with it being a sphere but that takes ages to explain.
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I mean, galaxies are drawn as visible in other pages, and I could maybe go and circle a bunch of dots that are most likely galaxies
 
ZillertheBucko said:
that they destroyed the specific direction of space that had absolutely zero galaxies within it for all those lightyears
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Yes. Do you know how absolutely empty space is? You can travel millions if not billions lightyears in one direction and still not hit a single other object. The Solar System is something like 99.99958% empty space and its more dense than galactic and inter-galactic spaces.
ZillertheBucko said:
zero galaxies within it for all those lightyears
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The nearest galaxy is 2.59 million lightyears away. You'd have to assume the beam moved millions or billions of lightyears to get to multi-galactic. It can cross 400,000 lightyears and still not hit another major galaxy.
 
Unless, for whatever reason, we can't scale God to Garou, despite the fact that God gave him the power that allowed him to briefly become an equal to Saitama, there is more than enough for God to now have a profile. We have multiple on-screen appearances and dialogue, several feats, and him scaling above CF Garou. Anything CF Garou can do as a result of his divine power is 100% undeniably something God can do as well. With the exception of abilities Garou copied after getting the power mimicry, of course.
 
Maitreya said:
If we do take the graphs realistically, how much stronger did Saitama get?
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At one point he's like 3x stronger going by bar lines.
ZillertheBucko said:
on second thought, the calc I was thinking of was this 3-C one which more directly shows the galaxies being visible, and can explain way better than I can
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It still relies on the assumption the beam moved millions of lightyears and destroyed another galaxy. Rather than just blow stars in a specific direction.

Though this can be better handled in the CRT I guess.
 
Saitama essentially performed a similarly powerful albeit weaker feat to what a sleep walking Beerus did.

Current Saitama=sleepwalking Beerus confirmed?
 
RinneItachi said:
Saitama essentially performed a similarly powerful albeit weaker feat to what a sleep walking Beerus did.

Current Saitama=sleepwalking Beerus confirmed?
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Beerus literally came out a ball of energy from him, it wasn't just a sneeze, I don't think it compares to Saitama's
 
USklaverei said:
Beerus literally came out a ball of energy from him, it wasn't just a sneeze, I don't think it compares to Saitama's
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It is a sneeze regardless of what came out. From a half asleep Beerus. Saitama is having to break his limits to even reach these heights 😂
 
RIP Borosbros
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YUIOP10 said:
Nothing changes the fact that characters will go through their own struggles even though Saitama has X+1 power levels. If most of the enjoyment comes from side characters and their growth, Saitama having x+1 invalidates nothing. And you barely make any points in the first place, I don't have much to work with here.

What is confusing you? I've elaborated on pretty much everything I've said. Quoting me and going "this makes no sense" is not an argument. Also, you are implying that any side-characters will have their journeys invalidated because of... Saitama having x+1 powerscaling. Which they will not, as I responded to previously.

What possibilities? And why the hell does it matter that the idea is widely applicable? You don't prove anywhere that it is, by the way. This is open ended as hell with 0 justification or supporting details. Am I supposed to just go "oh, DTG499 says it's so, that's the end of that!"? What do you mean by format, and why does it matter? What does that have to do with how the gag was originally conceived? And why doesn't it matter than Saitama will never be beaten, considering it's a core part of the gag? Once again, this is completely subjective and based on your personal enjoyment.

I have many reasons why I think OPM had a dive in quality in specific areas, and none of them are related to your barely coherent point about OPM's gag.

These are not contradictory. Saitama is portrayed as a regular man that achieves the impossible a la mind over matter. Thematically, he represents the infinite possibilities of the everyman, so any human can achieve what he has. However, within the plot of OPM, ONE is not going to write someone that surpasses him, or at least not a villain/monster. There's nothing to say that in their world's future after the main story ends, someone else won't become another Saitama.

This is a complete non-sequitur and doesn't address anything I said. You've said absolutely nothing when you go "I grew up and realized it's much deeper than that."
And yes, that is my point. How does that disprove what I'm saying?

Do you understand how constructing an argument works? I'm responding to your assertions with counterarguments and analyses/facts that support my arguments. Your responses have consisted solely of "I didn't say that," "you're wrong," or some version of "this is how it is." And I'd like to see your "prediction" of where "this" is going. What do you mean by "this"? The series? The fight that just ended? What? Saitama is not omnipresent or omniscient, he isn't going to be time traveling at the drop of a pin. That's if it's Saitama that time traveled by the way, and not Garou sending him back.

Most of your posts have been circular reasoning and avoid addressing my points. The only point you've made is about the original gag that started the series, which I disagree with heavily. The original gag is based on an unassuming, dumb-looking character than has unlimited power and defeats bad guy with a single blow. The dichotomy is based on cool-ness factors that shonen MCs usually have versus Saitama, as well as the enjoyment of seeing MCs get stronger while pitying Saitama for being too strong. Saitama struggles to find enjoyment again, which is why readers want to see him challenged, but ONE is very clearly stating in the manga and webcomic that this is not the correct path. Saitama is meant to grow past that desire and pursue a different goal. The pursuit-of-challenge part of the gag was never meant to last the entire series, and tying OPM's quality to that is what's really one-dimensional. You've missed the forest for the trees.
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Are you expecting reading comprehension from an OPM fan? You ask for much when more than 80% of the fanbase still thinks he is a looney tunes tier gag character or saying things that he doesn't really have a sad backstory when he was literally an aimless suicidal man before saving the Butt-chin kid
 
Recon1511 said:
Are you expecting reading comprehension from an OPM fan? You ask for much when more than 80% of the fanbase still thinks he is a looney tunes tier gag character or saying things that he doesn't really have a sad backstory when he was literally an aimless suicidal man before saving the Butt-chin kid
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I expect reading comprehension from the average human, but maybe I expect too much.
 
Kachon123 said:
Wait are Saitama and Garou universal? They imagined an entire universe and created it. It's not exactly going back in time. He traveled to a universe he created with the 'Ultimate Martial Arts'
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No, "Inner Universe" is like a concept in mediation and martial arts, it's just about visualizing your inner self in oneness with the cosmos and stuff.
 
LordTracer said:
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Matthew_Schroeder said:
No, "Inner Universe" is like a concept in mediation and martial arts, it's just about visualizing your inner self in oneness with the cosmos and stuff.
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It was kind stated that they were literally creating the universe that they were imagining. Particles were being created in pairs. I think what is happening is that Saitama created an identical universe to what happened in 165, then those two universes merged, like what happened to him. Just a theory though.
 
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