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No. Saitama being capable of becoming stronger doesn’t change the fact that the VSG was unable to perfectly replicate his strength.

”Saitama passively becomes strong enough to one shot himself from yesterday” is never going to be accepted.
I've always found VSG not replicating Saitama's strength kinda iffy.

VSG is a virtual machine, both the user and enemies are virtual projections of the IRL one. If VSG had a limit of, let's supose 100 (and, as consequence, anyone with a strength beyond 100 will get downgraded to 100 as consequence: the highest strength the machine can withstand/comprehend). Then, Shadow Saitama had a strength of, that, 100 (He can't be a version of Saitama with the lowest possible strength of the machine since it one-shotted Darkshine, so it's stronk).


When real Saitama comes to the virtual world, as he's not his real body anymore, but an exactly equal projection of himself inside the virtual world, he should have the restriction anyone in the machine has, in other words: his strength should at best be 100: the highest power the machine can withstand.

But, the problem comes with Saitama oneshotting his previous day self while casual, which would mean he should have, in fact, used a strength way greater than 100, otherwise they'd be equally matched

It's incoherent to supose the machine can't comprehend Saitama's power to create a Shadow Clone, but he can comprehend Saitama's power to create the virtual version of himself he uses to fight in the virtual World, since both: virtual Saitama and Shadow Saitama are exactly the same data
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After Garou's recent showings, is 5-A even necessary? I think there is enough ground to straight-up make him High 4-C. I would even say 4-B by scaling to the strongest GRB but that will probably not be accepted
 
A opm databook for this current arc would hit different. We'd prob get stuff like "Blast fires a dimension canon which is actually 12th dimensional, any normal person would be ripped apart"

Or something like "Serious punch squared would have destroyed all reality had it not be diverted"

I sure can't wait 😌
 
As usual you’re wrong as shit

“I’ve become too strong.”

“I don’t think I can get any stronger than I am now.”

He was talking about strength. He’s unable to gain anything from battle because he’s become too strong, which includes both greater levels of strength and superior technique.
That doesn't make sense with him removing his limiter. Either he has limitations or he doesn't. He removed his so he can still grow stronger but gains nothing from battle.
 
The statement could just mean that at the moment there’s no type of training or sparring with an opponent that could make Saitama stronger. It’s like lifting weights but only having at most 20 lbs dumbbells, eventually they’ll just feel like nothing, you’d need heavier weights to start making progress (that’s the premise behind building muscle and strength with a progressive overload). Saitama isn’t saying he absolutely cannot get stronger, he’s saying there’s nothing at his disposal at the moment that he can use/do to become stronger. He also says “I don’t think…” meaning he’s just making a conjecture, it’s not a statement of fact.
 
That doesn't make sense with him removing his limiter. Either he has limitations or he doesn't. He removed his so he can still grow stronger but gains nothing from battle.
Yes it does. He can grow stronger, but not by doing tasks that require absolutely zero effort. Like how a bodybuilder can't get stronger by bench-pressing 2 grams Saitama can't get stronger by one-shotting people trillions of times weaker than him.
 
Yes it does. He can grow stronger, but not by doing tasks that require absolutely zero effort. Like how a bodybuilder can't get stronger by bench-pressing 2 grams Saitama can't get stronger by one-shotting people trillions of times weaker than him.
I'm just referring to his exercise.
 
So is Garou gonna be "5-A, likely High 4-C. 4-A with Mode: Saitama", with 4-A dura?

Cause Garou only scratched Saitama when he was copying him
 
Why would his AP scale across the board? He only ever hurt Saitama while copying him
No, I'm talking about the 4-A part.

Everything else you said is good, though it would look more like this:

"5-A, likely High 4-C, up to 3-C with Modes"
 
Would Garou's durability scale to 4-A (or 3-C or 3-B lol) across the board even w/o Saitama Mode due to his durability feats in the last chapter?
 
Would Garou's durability scale to 4-A (or 3-C or 3-B lol) across the board even w/o Saitama Mode due to his durability feats in the last chapter?
yeah. Garou so far has been unable to do more than destroy Saitama's without directly going into Saitama Mode. He's got high af dura, but so far is unable to actually hurt Saitama
 
Would Garou's durability scale to 4-A (or 3-C or 3-B lol) across the board even w/o Saitama Mode due to his durability feats in the last chapter?

Yeah that's what I'm thinking.

But, maybe he is just a stone wall? Idk. Feels weird.
 
Yeah Garou currently has no reason for his base AP to be 4-A/3-C or whatever, since he hasn't been able to hurt Saitama without copying him. But meanwhile he's taking multiple hits from Saitama. So stonewall it is
 
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