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He wasn't talking about strength, he meant he doesn't gain anything from battle anymore since he ends them with ease.
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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“I’ve become too strong.”
“I don’t think I can get any stronger than I am now.”
He was talking about strength. He’s unable to gain anything from battle because he’s become too strong, which includes both greater levels of strength and superior technique.
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That doesn't make sense with him removing his limiter. Either he has limitations or he doesn't. He removed his so he can still grow stronger but gains nothing from battle.
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The statement could just mean that at the moment there’s no type of training or sparring with an opponent that could make Saitama stronger. It’s like lifting weights but only having at most 20 lbs dumbbells, eventually they’ll just feel like nothing, you’d need heavier weights to start making progress (that’s the premise behind building muscle and strength with a progressive overload). Saitama isn’t saying he absolutely cannot get stronger, he’s saying there’s nothing at his disposal at the moment that he can use/do to become stronger. He also says “I don’t think…” meaning he’s just making a conjecture, it’s not a statement of fact.
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Yes it does. He can grow stronger, but not by doing tasks that require absolutely zero effort. Like how a bodybuilder can't get stronger by bench-pressing 2 grams Saitama can't get stronger by one-shotting people trillions of times weaker than him.
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In a second is MFTL+
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I'm just referring to his exercise.
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So is Garou gonna be "5-A, likely High 4-C. 4-A with Mode: Saitama", with 4-A dura?
Cause Garou only scratched Saitama when he was copying him
Cause Garou only scratched Saitama when he was copying him
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Apeironaxim
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Why would his AP scale across the board? He only ever hurt Saitama while copying him
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No, I'm talking about the 4-A part.
Everything else you said is good, though it would look more like this:
"5-A, likely High 4-C, up to 3-C with Modes"
Apeironaxim
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don't forget 3-C dura even without Modes, since he's still taking hits from Saitama while not copying him. Garou is gonna be a massive stonewall lmao
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Would Garou's durability scale to 4-A (or 3-C or 3-B lol) across the board even w/o Saitama Mode due to his durability feats in the last chapter?
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Yeah
Apeironaxim
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yeah. Garou so far has been unable to do more than destroy Saitama's without directly going into Saitama Mode. He's got high af dura, but so far is unable to actually hurt Saitama
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Yeah that's what I'm thinking.
But, maybe he is just a stone wall? Idk. Feels weird.
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Stone Wall Garou returns, lessgooooooooooo
Apeironaxim
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Yeah Garou currently has no reason for his base AP to be 4-A/3-C or whatever, since he hasn't been able to hurt Saitama without copying him. But meanwhile he's taking multiple hits from Saitama. So stonewall it is
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Kachon i'm dropping the screenshot in this thread in about 5 minutes.Enough time has passed..
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Can we use Saitama not being able to use techniques as reference for anything?
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Why wouldn't Garou scale without Saitama mode? If he believed he could only have 3-C or 4-A attack potency or thought he is no match against Saitama without going into Saitama mode he would've never stopped using it in the first place nor use his other abilities when we know he was able to deduce that Saitama wasn't using his full power before getting serious last chapter.
He states Saitama is limitlessly strong and that he just has to copy him limitlessly in order to win (meaning over and over) so I'm willing to assume that's what's happening.
He states Saitama is limitlessly strong and that he just has to copy him limitlessly in order to win (meaning over and over) so I'm willing to assume that's what's happening.
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Cause he’s got no feats on that level without Saitama Mode. It’s that simple.
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That's a pretty cursed gap
I suppose it means his combat experience kinda sucks Post-Training
Apeironaxim
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So Blast's profile prob needs to have a weakness or something in it that he seemingly can't do an interdimensional gate if there's too much energy. If he could, then he would have done that with Saitama and Garou, but instead he could only bring them to somewhere in space above Earth, and then attempting to at least try to direct the energy away from Earth.
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Wait, should Saitama actually get resistance to BFR if Blast's portals have the weakness of being unable to warp things that are too strong?
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Bruh don't.
Apeironaxim
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He shouldn't get resistance, but rather would have NPI (and whatever else may apply) for being able to kick portals away.
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That's not a Resistance to BFR. BFR is too broad of an ability for that.
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Bruh don't.
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He already has NPI, so it’s just added justification.
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You do know the other galaxy is just like, right above Garou's shoulder right? Both are still present in the scene.
Apeironaxim
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Him kicking away the portal and then ******* grabbing and turning the other one is prob gonna be one of my fav OPM moments of all time. Someone earlier said it was like Looney Toons level of visual comedy, and I agree, it was amazing.
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So it's logical that Garou after going Saitama mode for the SSSP gets a permanent 4-A or 3-C upgrade in durability but not in attack potency when he explicitly stated to copy power.
Genius
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He ain’t got 4-A/3-C feats without Saitama Mode, so he doesn’t get 4-A/3-C AP without Saitama Mode.
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The feat isn't 3-C. You'd have to use incredibly high assumptions to get it there. The 4-A calc I or the other dude did should probably be used since that requires a less extreme assumption.
Apeironaxim
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yeah the only 4-A feat he gets in base is for his dura. And we even see Garou doing a big combination of all the styles he has and Saitama doesn't get hurt, the worst that happens is his clothes get destroyed. Garou just straight up doesn't have any feats to give him 4-A AP in base
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But he has 4-A/3-C durability. That he is apparently getting even without Saitama mode after using Saitama mode.
Makes much more sense than the narrative implying that Garou and Saitama are just both having a reactive evolution battle.
