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Spider-Man: No Way Home Discussion Thread - WITH SPOILERS

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we also need to change the characters' summary, something like "With the events of Spiderman: No Way Home, Otto Octavius is sent to the main universe of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, right before his death, he then confronts the Spiderman of this universe. Later on, Spiderman fix his inhibitor chip, protecting him from the AI of the tentacles. Otto then helps Peter to send the villains back to their universe"

Of course that's something I just wrote and it can be changed
 
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Lonkitt said:
I had some time

MCU Peter:
Base: Regeneration (High-Low; Healed his broken ribs in a matter of a few hours), Self-Body Puppetry (Despite Dr. Strange removing his soul, Peter's physical body continued to move a magical box away from the former's grasp continuously), Limited Self-Soul Manipulation (Solely moved his soul back into his body), Danmaku (with EDITH)
Optional Equipment: BFR (Can utilize a single magic web-shooter that sends people or objects to a magical prison if shot with a single web), Power Nullification (Alongside two other Peter Parkers, created cures for Green Goblin, Sandman, Electro, and The Lizard which would effectively depower them)

Additional points for existing abilities: Technological Manipulation (Can control the Nanotechnology of the Iron Spider even when not using it, as well as when it was forcibly integrated into Doctor Octopus’ metal arms), Precognition (Warned Peter when Norman Osborn’s Goblin persona was about to resurface), Preparation (Worked on cures for a number of villains within a short amount of time)

Raimi Peter:
Base: Preparation (Worked on cures for a number of villains within a short amount of time)
Optional Equipment: Power Nullification (Alongside two other Peter Parkers, created cures for Green Goblin, Sandman, Electro, and The Lizard which would effectively depower them)
Black Suit: Multiple Selves (Type 3), Telepathy (The Symbiote can share the memories of previous hosts), Empathic Manipulation (The Symbiote often amplifies its host's anger to emotionally reactive levels), Statistics Amplification (The Symbiote amplifies the abilities and physical attributes of it's hosts), Power Mimicry (Copied Spider-Man's abilities after bonding with him)

Additional points for existing abilities: Enhanced Awareness and Self-Perception Manipulation (Could view Mary Jane, her father, friends, and Flash Thompson from the house over while in his room as his body was processing his powers. Focused in on Dennis Carradine's location on the second floor of a dark warehouse)

TASM Peter:
Base: Precognition and Enhanced Senses (Peter's senses were significantly upgraded after attaining his powers. Was alerted to The Lizard's rampage on the Williamsburg Bridge. Detected small lizards heading into the subway where Connors was operating. Sensed Electro's arrival to Times Square before he had even made a commotion. Was given an accurate view of several civilians who were in immediate danger, allowing him to prevent each of their deaths. Caught a football without looking. Caught a fly effortlessly. Without looking, could casually web swing out of the way an attack from Electro), Instinctive Reactions (Accidentally defeated a group of attackers on a subway train, with his body even recognizing how to use the environment as an advantage), Regeneration (Mid-Low; Stated to be capable of self-healing. Healed from deep scars inflicted on his body by The Lizard), Surface Scaling (Use primarily for wall-crawling. Can stick objects to his hands and feet with little chance of them budging. Had an uninterrupted sleep with his body sticking between two surfaces), Acrobatics (Commonly performs incredible feats of agility. Traversed a crowded alley with ease), Stealth Mastery (Snuck into a car while a thief was in the middle of stealing it, which was proceeded by sneaking out of the car in complete silence. Moved himself to a ceiling behind the Lizard in the short time the latter had briefly ducked, despite the latter's enhanced senses. Silently left while he was right next to Gwen), Preparation (Worked on cures for a number of villains within a short amount of time)
Optional Equipment: Power Nullification (Alongside two other Peter Parkers, created cures for Green Goblin, Sandman, Electro, and The Lizard which would effectively depower them)

Green Goblin:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Genius Intelligence, Martial Arts, Weapon Mastery, Acrobatics (Front flipped a fair distance forwards. Performed a spinning flip into the air to knock an ascending Spider-Man down), Enhanced Senses (Could hear a drop of blood fall onto a wooden floor), Explosion Manipulation (Pumpkin Bombs and Missiles), Sleep Inducement (Can project Sleeping Gas from his gauntlets), Flight (With his Glider), Homing Attack (His Flying Razors can track opponents, even if they initially dodged them the first time)

Doctor Octopus:
Technological Manipulation (Removed the Iron Spider's Nanotechnology and integrated it into his metal arms), Resistance to Electricity Manipulation for his tentacles (Can safely grab Electro, however this resistance is essentially negated should the retractable blades on his metal arms make contact with a high voltage)

Sandman:
Air Manipulation

Venom:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Multiple Selves (Type 3; Eddie Brock and Venom coexist in a symbiotic relationship), Martial Arts, Surface Scaling, Web Creation, Acrobatics, Stealth Mastery, Regeneration (Mid-Low; Has an enhanced and far faster variant of regeneration compared to Spider-Man), Enhanced Awareness and Self-Perception Manipulation (Possesses the same senses as Spider-Man, but enhanced. His own Spider-Sense allowed him to locate Sandman), Telepathy (Eddie had Peter's memories shared with him shortly after bonding with the Symbiote), Empathic Manipulation (The Symbiote often amplifies its host's anger to emotionally reactive levels), Statistics Amplification (The Symbiote amplifies the abilities and physical attributes of it's hosts), Power Mimicry (Copied Spider-Man's abilities after bonding with him, allowing Eddie to utilize them)

New Goblin:
Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Martial Arts, Weapon Mastery, Stealth Mastery (Remained hidden within Mary Jane's apartment before sneak attacking her), Flight (With his Glider), Enhanced Senses (Has the same level of enhanced hearing as his father, who could drop of blood fall onto a wooden floor. Even after losing his memory, he had no trouble catching a falling vase and basketball in reaction to his senses), Acrobatics (Spun his body around in mid-air to position himself back onto his Glider as it returned to him), Explosion Manipulation (Pumpkin Bombs, Razor Bombs, and Missiles), Homing Attack (His Razor Bombs can track opponents the moment they're thrown), Fire Manipulation (His Glider can be used to emit heavy flames offensively)

The Lizard:
Surface Scaling (Has no trouble climbing walls and ceilings)

Electro:
Teleportation, Enhanced Senses (Detected an alternate Spider-Man attacking from behind, allowing himself to effectively avoid being hit), Electrical Intangibility (Can become intangible)
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Lonkitt said:
Intelligence stuff:

MCU Peter:
Genius (Created his web-shooters under a very limited budget. Created a more potent version of the suit provided to him by Tony Stark. Figured out a way to defeat Mysterio in the short timespan of a jet flight from the Netherlands to London. Shown to be multilingual. Identified the material of Falcon's wings and how they worked by simply glancing at them. Built a makeshift bomb with a downed EDITH drone in the middle of combat. Should be at least as smart as, if not smarter than Ned Leeds, who could hack into the Stark Suit. Broke out of the Damage Control Deep Storage Vault with some assistance from Karen and a calculator, which was said to be "the most secure facility on the Eastern Seaboard". Understood the theoretical mechanics of the multiverse. Easily defeated the Winter Soldier and Falcon at the same time, with Iron Man personally commentating that his combat display in Berlin proved he had potential and was "the real deal". Tony considered Peter to be a candidate for MIT, which is a research university specialized in applied science and engineering where some of the brightest technological minds have worked. Acted as the lead strategist when working alongside his older counterparts against villains from their universes. Understood how the Mirror Dimension worked through advanced knowledge on geometry, trapping Doctor Strange within it despite the latter using multiple magical abilities against him. Successfully fixed Otto Octavius' inhibitor chip after deducing how it was negatively affected him, with Norman Osborn calling Peter's work "remarkable". Worked on cures to various supervillains' powers, including Sandman's abilities, in a matter of hours)

Raimi Peter:
Genius (Understood all of Norman Osborn's research, including on the topic nanotechnology, writing a paper on said topic much to Norman's approval. Has been referred to as "brilliant" by Curt Connors, who is a quantum physics scientist. His intellect impressed Otto Octavius, who built his mechanical arms and a self-sustaining nuclear fusion reactor which could sustain a protostar. Peter considered that the fusion of Otto's reactor would become unstable, which was ultimately true, with the latter even admitting that Parker was correct. Calculates his jumps and web swings as to make sure he can safely perform them. Harry Osborn and Gwen Stacy have called Peter a genius, with Gwen herself being a lab worker in Curt Connors' lab. Worked on cures to various supervillains' powers, including Sandman's abilities, in a matter of hours. Was able to create a cure for Norman Osborn, something he said he thought about for years after defeating him, negating his powers and essentially curing his dissociative identity disorder)

TASM Peter:
Genius (Perfected his father's webbing formula. Constructed working mechanical web-shooters. Casually solved an algorithm that was key to creating the formula mutated Curt Connors, whereas it took the former years to attempt the same with zero success. Smarter than Curt Connors, a world renowned herpetologist, who can identify chemical liquids just by glancing at them before immediately mixing them into an explosive. Quickly pieced together how he was brought into the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Worked on cures to various supervillains' powers, including Sandman's abilities, in a matter of hours. Easily took down a team of highly trained armoured police officers early into his career)
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Thelastmlg said:
The movie really did all of them justice, especially tom holland tbh, developed with aunt may's death like uncle ben to the others and sacrificed his identity for the sake of everyone, really hyped for more tom.
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To be fair, this was his movie and the end of his trilogy and the other two already movies and developpement so it's logical he would would be the focus
Thelastmlg said:
Also, mj said that spell threatened the universe or something, tho idk if she is a reliable source, does strange ever say it does too so we can give him the same low 2-C of evil strange's first key?
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The breaches thing is not a direct effect of Strange's spell, it's a cause and effect stuff so no power involved here
 
Lonkitt said:
Agreed, "At least 8-C+" (should this calc be approved) for Iron Spider is the way to go
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Wait isn't their an issue here about the number if drones that were in the water elemental? Mysterio had a least a dozen or so drones being used for the elementals even before getting EDITH and they would collectively make themselves into the monsters.

This feat was preformed by a ton of drones, which would lower the result significantly.
 
Qawsedf234 said:
Wait isn't their an issue here about the number if drones that were in the water elemental? Mysterio had a least a dozen or so drones being used for the elementals even before getting EDITH and they would collectively make themselves into the monsters.

This feat was preformed by a ton of drones, which would lower the result significantly.
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Spider-Man has taken hits from several drones attacking at the same time as to cause the collective damage. Both Mysterio’s original ones and EDITH. I think we’re fine
 
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I remember Spider-Man could surviving blows from the larger elementals, but it's worth noting that he doesn't have enough surface area to withstand the full impact energy.
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I mean, it doesn’t just have to be the elementals. There’s times when Mysterio uses other illusions with the Drones to attack Peter

Though we still have that carousel feat if we wanted feat that is more directly linked to Peter’s AP/Durability
 
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Wtf Google 🗿
 
Lonkitt said:
Spider-Man has taken hits from several drones attacking at the same time as to cause the collective damage
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The thing is that we don't know what weapon they used to damage to structure nor do we know how many hit it. Spider-Man has also never been hit by dozens of drones at once to my memory.
 
Nobody here considers Tom Holland's Spider-man to be stronger than Cap? I mean, that's how I see it. So, if you ask me, I think that the MCU's spidey could go up to High 8-C, since many of the things that the captain could do as well as many others in 8-C, he can do them too and with less difficulty. .
 
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