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Spider-Man: No Way Home Discussion Thread - WITH SPOILERS
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Coolboy6
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Wouldn’t that be composite tho?
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Maybe about that, I would like to comment, wouldn't your profiles have to be added to the MCU section?
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Keys for Sandman (Giant) and Electro (Arc Reactor). Everyone else just gets updates
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No, no it’s not
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they're the same as there og counterparts canonically
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Is there any reason to assume he never used the damage of that magnitude against Spider-Man? Beck needed:
A) Real damage to convince people
B) To kill Spider-Man later on and attacked quite forcefully
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I’ve been making some drafts for what AP can look like (basically all the Spider-Men are equal to each other blah blah blah) as well as abilities and intelligence. We’re also getting calcs looked at
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No need to be humble, Lonky, you're killing it. For real! I have full faith that if I never touched Comic Spidey's page, you would've swung in to save the day instead
Speaking of swinging, what was your guys' favorite moment in the movie? And no, saying Andrew/Tobey's reappearance doesn't count since that's one of the most obvious picks. For me, I think it was Andrew getting emotional over saving MJ (and I say this as a Raimi Trilogy fanboy). Punched me in the soul harder than Strange did to Tom haha
Speaking of swinging, what was your guys' favorite moment in the movie? And no, saying Andrew/Tobey's reappearance doesn't count since that's one of the most obvious picks. For me, I think it was Andrew getting emotional over saving MJ (and I say this as a Raimi Trilogy fanboy). Punched me in the soul harder than Strange did to Tom haha
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I'm saying that the elementals are composed of dozens of drones that are the ones that cause damage to stuff. The issue isn't them hitting Spider-Man but the amount that preformed the feat and the amount that hit Spider-Man.
Coolboy6
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For me, it was when Andrew spidey saves MJ. I liked that Andrew got some redemption after he couldn’t save his girl
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I do not think they are drones, at that time, Mysterio did not have EDITH
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For me the best part was the return of Matt Murdock
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No, they had drones. Spider-Man pulled a camera off of one before Mysterio ever got EDITH. He just got enough drones to fake the multi-elemental after EDITH.
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There is no difference in power between the elemental and the original drones or EDITH drones (considering they were made with the OG drones), so the point of bringing up the Elementals as a counter specifically doesn't quite work here. Shouldn't be a problem really
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You're not understanding my point here.
- The elementals are made of dozens of drones
- These drones collectively destroyed the bridge
- Spider-Man was never hit by dozens of drones simultaneously
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He's been consistently winded by just a single drone. He also was never hit by dozens of thrones at once, which is what would be needed to fully scale to the ccalc.
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But, would this change things a lot?
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In terms of current scaling? No, it would just mean that 8-C+ can't be used
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It means the calc would need to be divided by a drone amount and people scale to that. They wouldn't scale to a collective feat.
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They had between 20 and 40 drones before getting EDITH, which were used for all of the elementals.
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To be fair, it has been shown that the Drones can change their damage output
That said, there are still times where larger illusions/attacks have struck Peter, which involves more than one drone
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Image of their drones which as confirmed here is before they hacked EDITH. There's at least 34 drones, if not more.
That was after he woke up in jail and had the plane ride to London. Its no longer than his downtime in NWH.
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Actually, those are EDITH Drones
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And in all of those cases, especially the water elemental, he doesn't take the full energy due to his lack of surface area.
So we either divide by the number of drones, or surface area.
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Those are Mysterio's drones. They just look like EDITH drones. The second link I gave showed that they haven't even hacked Stark's system yet, so everything there was what they already had.
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Ah, that's right
Regardless, I do think we'll only have far more problems in the future if we attempt to eyeball-guess how many Drones are used. Solely based on the fact that Peter has taken a hit from the Hydroman illusion, I don't think it's far fetched to assume that scales. I mean, it's even an up close hit
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