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I still believe window height is more appropriate-
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STRONGEST One-Punch Man Discussion Thread!
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Using 12.9m gives 4.3m for random apartment building windows
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time for a calc discussion thread
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Turnero, you should just summarise your posts in one posts so it's easier for everyone to read and it avoids spamming
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The building I'm measuring doesn't even have windows visible, we're looking at the gap between the walkway guards like with Saitama's apartment. That's why I went with the story height.
I'll have to do my research on Japanese regulation window height again, but I know from previous calcs that the 1.5 meter standard we use isn't based around Japanese building code- windows can and do vary in size within regulation.
I'll have to do my research on Japanese regulation window height again, but I know from previous calcs that the 1.5 meter standard we use isn't based around Japanese building code- windows can and do vary in size within regulation.
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Would it be possible for VM to scale to HE? Since they're both confirmed to use the same energy by Murata and VM's databook statement says he gathers energy from the earth which would mean HE draws it from the same source.
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Ah i see what u mean now, well I have no problems calc fine
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I mean he also said Choze uses the same energy iirc.
Although one could say it takes Choze a significant amount of charge to fire off a single one while Vaccine Man and Homeless spam those suckers casually.
Although one could say it takes Choze a significant amount of charge to fire off a single one while Vaccine Man and Homeless spam those suckers casually.
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Probably not since their feats don't line up and getting energy from the same place probably doesn't mean they can use the same amount of power.
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This was brought before and no. Because Choze alone kinda contradicts this. As we know he's below dragon level
Plus them being the same energy source wouldn't mean they'd be equal in power
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All good. Appreciate people double-checking calcs.
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Choze only used the ability once and never was able to showcase it again so how does he contradict it? Both HE and VM have the ability to draw from that energy source its not their original power. Also its not really a defined amount of power its just the ability to draw from that power source that's why HE has a up to and if that's the case so should VM based off those statements.
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So...what happen to Tatsumaki?
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Because Suiryu, who's physically on par with Choze, reflected it.
Also, how does their energy being the same type actually support what you're saying? Drawing off energy doesn't really mean there's no limit, as Vaccine Man actually partially transforms for efficiency. Choze's blast was also supposed to be a very powerful attack, so it should be at least comparable to tiny blasts that maimed Fuhrer Ugly by your logic.
Also, how does their energy being the same type actually support what you're saying? Drawing off energy doesn't really mean there's no limit, as Vaccine Man actually partially transforms for efficiency. Choze's blast was also supposed to be a very powerful attack, so it should be at least comparable to tiny blasts that maimed Fuhrer Ugly by your logic.
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As of now KOed
yeah, and we know both are below the dragon level tiers.
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oops
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done
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Suiryu had trouble deflecting one while VFU got hit by dozens of them in rapid succession and then walked it off. Also the bit about VM is referring to his physical strength not his energy drawing ability. Specify that fact that he transforms a part of his body to attack rather than fully transforming to conserve energy and his transformation is stated to drastically increase his fighting strength.
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I can't see your images, but you seemed to have missed the part where VFU had massive craters in his chest. The guy just has powerful regen.
It's directly referring to his energy consumption. His transformations increase his strength, but also decrease the efficiency of his energy consumption, so he partially transforms to increase his strength above his normal state but use less energy than outright transforming.
Edit: Should have been more clear here. My point was that it doesn't mean he can draw on massive amounts of energy limitlessly, or at least to the same extent as HE, who easily produces blasts thousands of times more powerful in moments without effort.
It's directly referring to his energy consumption. His transformations increase his strength, but also decrease the efficiency of his energy consumption, so he partially transforms to increase his strength above his normal state but use less energy than outright transforming.
Edit: Should have been more clear here. My point was that it doesn't mean he can draw on massive amounts of energy limitlessly, or at least to the same extent as HE, who easily produces blasts thousands of times more powerful in moments without effort.
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Think of it as them red water things.
You plug two hose in them, they are both getting water from it but the amount they shoot out depends on the size of the hose. In the case would be the level of power they can actually bring about
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Imagine if Homeless had Vaccine Man's flight ability. That would really round him out
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I can't see the VM databook image you posted, but I can see the first. I was also referring to the first barrage VFU took in ch 149 and he was relatively fine, later he took way more then he needed to regen. In the databook scan I'm using (I'm using this scan for VM's databook) it refers to the orbs as bio energy and his transformation drains just energy not bio energy. Also why would his transformation drain energy that he gathers for the energy balls its never stated that he uses that gathered energy when he transforms. If he does use that energy when he transforms why is his physical stats unknown then? If they are the same then his physical stats should scale as well.
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Which calc
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His images work fine for me
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I can see the first image, but not the second one now.
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The second is still a small barrage.
Bio-energy and energy here are probably the same thing, just slightly abbreviated (as is pretty conventional after first introducing something). What other energy would it even be referring to?
We talked about it in another thread, but we didn't agree to it for some other reason, not because it wasn't bio-energy.
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VM's balls doesn't scale to his physicals because of his statements that he draws his energy balls from somewhere else, and not from himself, similar to HE.
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Is that ever stated?
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Yes, in the guide.
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