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JirensMom said:
HE was talking about GS but I don’t see how it proves GS scales to HE


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Well, HE's original plan was to One-shot everyone with a concentrated blast, which we could assume is the Spirit bomb he did. Once GS came to existence, HE said that the plan was ruined, so GS could scale to the Spirit bomb.
 
Kachon123 said:
Well, HE's original plan was to One-shot everyone with a concentrated blast, which we could assume is the Spirit bomb he did. Once GS came to existence, HE said that the plan was ruined, so GS could scale to the Spirit bomb.
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Carpet bombing isn’t one shot its a heavy stream of explosions, it ruined his plan because they fused meaning they no longer lack cohesion and he can’t just sit back and carpet bomb them.
 
Kachon123 said:
Well, HE's original plan was to One-shot everyone with a concentrated blast, which we could assume is the Spirit bomb he did. Once GS came to existence, HE said that the plan was ruined, so GS could scale to the Spirit bomb.
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I tried that argument and it got rejected.
 
JirensMom said:
Carpet bombing isn’t one shot its a heavy stream of explosions, it ruined his plan because they fused meaning they no longer lack cohesion and he can’t just sit back and carpet bomb them.
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What makes it worse is that we can't use division as the amount if balls HE yeeted is unquantifiable. We know that he was shooting the balls continuously.
 
I thought Ourosboros was just referring to HE's goal of exterminating humanity, not the plan to let Black Sperm wash over all the cities and wipe-out him/the leftovers with a carpet bombing.
 
Well, it’s hard to know if this spirit bomb scales to the island level.
It’s power varies and Homeless states he was finding the “right” power; power that would make the kill satisfying.

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ByAsura said:
I thought Ourosboros was just referring to HE's goal of exterminating humanity, not the plan to let Black Sperm wash over all the cities and wipe-out him/the leftovers with a carpet bombing.
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Only thing is there will still trillions of BS cells left at that point (and no reason to see why they would fuse), so that part of the plan is still good to go. The part that seems to have been ruined is Homeless's plan to exterminate BS after that, since GS is a thing now. The idea that GS is durable enough to endanger Homeless is further supported by the fact that GS saved Homeless's life- something that would not make as much sense if Homeless was a real danger to GS. Further speculation is headcanon, but the idea that GS sees Homeless as a useful ally that poses no real threat to himself explains perfectly why he would save him despite BS wanting to take Homeless out earlier.
 
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Ourosboros said:
Only thing is there will still trillions of BS cells left at that point (and no reason to see why they would fuse), so that part of the plan is still good to go. The part that seems to have been ruined is Homeless's plan to exterminate BS after that, since GS is a thing now. The idea that GS is durable enough to endanger Homeless is further supported by the fact that GS saved Homeless's life- something that would not make as much sense if Homeless was a real danger to GS. Further speculation is headcanon, but the idea that GS sees Homeless as a useful ally that poses no real threat to himself explains perfectly why he would save him despite BS wanting to take Homeless out earlier.
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1. I'm not sure what his plan being ruined has to do with anything.
His plan was to make let them split to the max so they're dumb and weak so he no diffs them all, them fusing into one being (GS) ruined that plan but that doesn't suggest or imply he believed he couldn't beat them or anything of the sort. It just means his original plan was eradicated.
Gs befriending HE doesn't prove he's more durable either, not sure how you arrived to that notion. He simply wanted to help him at this moment which shouldn't be a problem. I'm pretty sure its headcanon to assert that's why he saved him, when it's been shown from the start that BS wanted to kill HE but didn't have the power to do it (even tho he can fuse, etc.).
 
We should compare the balls when they are above HE because they grow bigger with the distance, so we wouldn't have a way to compare them after they were fired. That being said, the first one looks bigger than the second. Idk if it's calc-stacking, but we could find the volume/size of the second ball and guess its value. For the third one too, it is much much bigger than the others.
 
First you use the panel where his magic (let's just call it a magic) looks very small and now the exploding one, u don't make sense dude. Anyway the second one looks more bigger.
 
The second one is not larger. Remember, that's Fuhrer Ugly next to the first one, who's about two or three times the size of someone like Atomic Samurai and Sweet mask.

I did a conservative estimate a while ago in this thread, and the diameter of the first sphere was 31% larger.

On another note, imagine if GS didn't get his arm cut off. The fusion would have 71 trillion cells.
Ourosboros said:
Only thing is there will still trillions of BS cells left at that point (and no reason to see why they would fuse), so that part of the plan is still good to go. The part that seems to have been ruined is Homeless's plan to exterminate BS after that, since GS is a thing now.
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The problem here is that, even if HE was still referring to what's a tiny fraction of the cells in GS, HE didn't actually interact with these left-overs until somewhere in chapter 151. They were off fighting Genos until King's arrival.
Ourosboros said:
The idea that GS is durable enough to endanger Homeless is further supported by the fact that GS saved Homeless's life- something that would not make as much sense if Homeless was a real danger to GS.
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He's physically human, so it makes perfect sense.
 
Wasn't he half-melted by Gums at that point?

Plus, even if it is inconsistent, that blast came just after a panel where his foot alone was the size of Child Emperor and Zombieman's torso. So it's highly unlikely that he's not at least several metres tall here.
 
Maybe. I forgot that he can seemingly increase in size, so it's not like it matters. He seemed unusually big when he fought Bang.
 
I'd say that's because he got angrier twice. First was against Tatsumaki's restraints, the second was when he got his face kicked in and rose up from some rubble.
 
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